Hard to trade players

[playingwithfire]

So what have you guys gotten for hard to trade players in be a gm? Just kinda curious to find out.

Couple names I can think of

Cristobal Huet
Wade Redden
Nicolai Khabibulin

or any others you care to name.

I got a 6th rounder for Khabibulin and was ecstatic as I was pretty set on going young at the goalie position.

[jevans83]

Re: Hard to trade players

So what have you guys gotten for hard to trade players in be a gm? Just kinda curious to find out.

Couple names I can think of

Cristobal Huet
Wade Redden
Nicolai Khabibulin

or any others you care to name.

I got a 6th rounder for Khabibulin and was ecstatic as I was pretty set on going young at the goalie position.

I got a pack of chips for Redden.

[shaunpatrick]

Re: Hard to trade players

And everyone else says the CPU has no trade logic, no team in the NHL would agree to trade for any of those players.

[playingwithfire]

Re: Hard to trade players

And everyone else says the CPU has no trade logic, no team in the NHL would agree to trade for any of those players.

I got a 6th rounder from the Leafs for Khabibulin...

Edit: wait, that's realistic.

[actionhank]

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I got a 6th rounder from the Leafs for Khabibulin...

Edit: wait, that's realistic.

I wouldn't say that's too bad.
I would gladly give up a 6th round pick for a goalie like Khabi, especially if i didn't have a decent goalie, or a back up.
Maybe i should try offering that trade!

[kestrel]

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I wouldn't say that's too bad.
I would gladly give up a 6th round pick for a goalie like Khabi, especially if i didn't have a decent goalie, or a back up.
Maybe i should try offering that trade!

You might get a better deal out of a free agent, and this coming from a Lightning fan who appreciates what the 'Bulin Wall did for us in 2004.

[Flamesfan102]

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The CPU offered Brad Richards for Souray straight up. Bad deal for Dallas

[playingwithfire]

Re: Hard to trade players

The CPU offered Brad Richards for Souray straight up. Bad deal for Dallas

nowhere to play richards

Penner/Horcoff/Hemsky
Cogliano/Gagner/Stortini
Hall/Brule/Eberle

[Nickflyers]

Re: Hard to trade players

Seems they made it more likely for the CPU to accept trades during off season and Trade Deadline. I mean come on how many trades do you see between Oct 1st-Feb 27th?? They are very far and few.

Now on that note anyone having success pulling off blockbuster trades at the deadline?

[kruszer]

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i barely see any trades anymore...maybe a few at the Trade Deadline, and one or two at the draft, but none during the season, and maybe another during the offseason...and they are never trades of any significance...i dont see teams unloading potential free agents, or teams trading to get younger...

also, i find Brian Campbell the hardest guy to trade, since his contract is so high, and his trade value is relatively low...but i usually can still trade him for a low draft pick at the deadline...

[crosbie87]

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i barely see any trades anymore...maybe a few at the Trade Deadline, and one or two at the draft, but none during the season, and maybe another during the offseason...and they are never trades of any significance...i dont see teams unloading potential free agents, or teams trading to get younger...

also, i find Brian Campbell the hardest guy to trade, since his contract is so high, and his trade value is relatively low...but i usually can still trade him for a low draft pick at the deadline...

It's funny you mention Campbell .. in my 1st season Chicago put him on waivers, Colorado picked him up and he played the rest of the season in the AHL with the Monsters LOL

[shadox]

Re: Hard to trade players

I really like the way it is this year.
I started a GM with Boston and tried to unload Thomas due to his big contract...and it took a few weeks before I could get him off.
Although things are far from being perfect, it plays a lot better this year. Managing your roster and make moves actually takes time of research beforehand...which is quiete nice. I just wish it would be a bit more comfortable (i.e. showing the top 5 stats in the value screen).
The AI still allows you to uptrade a bit,but not as easily/heavy as it was last year.

[cocacolaman]

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The only thing I find very wrong is that the AI will trade anything for draft picks.
I find Tampa always willing to move Stamkos and Hedman in a package deal for junk and a couple high picks????

And early on you can usuallly pick up any superstar for a couple 1st round picks. Which if you have a playoff team it's worth it.

In one franchise I moved Phoenix back to the Jets and in the second year had Turris as a RFA and Florida offered 3 1st round picks and 2nd's for him.....add to that they were going to pay him 7 mill a year....I couldn't believe that deal.

If you look at the teams that put value on vets you can move some high paid vets off your roster for good young talent. Trading isn't impossible but it also shouldn't be crazy, I mean I always grab that Stamkos Hedman Trade and pick up Hall anytime. And with Chicago I can usually always grab either Toews or Kane and same with Malkin and Crosby the CPU always will trade one of them to free up cap room.

Funny thing was I was offered Joe Thornton for a 2nd round pick a month or so into the season and picked him up.... but as a 1st line Center he killed my team, was too slow but I moved him to 2nd line and it worked perfectly. The next year I sent him back to the Sharks for a 1st round pick???? That made no sense, I tried to send him back to Boston but they didn't want him.

[JDorman3rd]

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nowhere to play richards

Penner/Horcoff/Hemsky
Cogliano/Gagner/Stortini
Hall/Brule/Eberle

LOL



WUT?

[shadox]

Re: Hard to trade players

The only thing I find very wrong is that the AI will trade anything for draft picks.
I find Tampa always willing to move Stamkos and Hedman in a package deal for junk and a couple high picks????

And early on you can usuallly pick up any superstar for a couple 1st round picks. Which if you have a playoff team it's worth it.

In one franchise I moved Phoenix back to the Jets and in the second year had Turris as a RFA and Florida offered 3 1st round picks and 2nd's for him.....add to that they were going to pay him 7 mill a year....I couldn't believe that deal.

If you look at the teams that put value on vets you can move some high paid vets off your roster for good young talent. Trading isn't impossible but it also shouldn't be crazy, I mean I always grab that Stamkos Hedman Trade and pick up Hall anytime. And with Chicago I can usually always grab either Toews or Kane and same with Malkin and Crosby the CPU always will trade one of them to free up cap room.

Funny thing was I was offered Joe Thornton for a 2nd round pick a month or so into the season and picked him up.... but as a 1st line Center he killed my team, was too slow but I moved him to 2nd line and it worked perfectly. The next year I sent him back to the Sharks for a 1st round pick???? That made no sense, I tried to send him back to Boston but they didn't want him.

Well, I still think the trade logic was greatly improved from last year.
You have to keep in mind, that a programm can't (and simply shouldn't) value a player based on a name like we fans do. I believe they can't even evaluate based on single ratings, e.g. getting a lower OVR player with high Checking ratings for their 4th line...it would simply be too complex.

So they have to judge their decisions on priorities for the team or some "needs" based on simple roster management questions like:
- need cap room?
- amount of players on certain positions beyond certain limits?
- etc.

Furthermore, the game should allow to trade towards the human player so that people can make the trades they dream of (as long as its hard enough).

Lastly, bad decisions also happen IRL.

On a side note...giving away your 2nd pick for someone who didn't play up to your expectations...doesn't sound like a great deal to me (no offence)

I really enjoy the AIs behaviour this year. I saw bad teams going draft picks and good teams for good players.