NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

[neptuneniq]

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Ok, I'm going to bow out before this gets out of hand (Kobe vs. Bron). I don't see any problem with the ratings.

lol it always ends up like that

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Uh, Lebron is a better rebounder, defender, passer and is far more efficient offensively than Bryant. Bryant is still great, but LeBron is the best player in the entire league.



Wrong. Gasol is equally to an aging Duncan, but worse than Dwight Howard. Gasol has such great offensive skill, but has managed to never score even 20 points a night. Dwight, with his "limited" skills, has done it twice. Gasol is only better at passing and shooting FT's, but Dwight is a better scorer, rebounder and he is the best defender in the NBA.

The L.A. hype is in full effect I see. They are the two best players on the best team in the NBA, not the best swingman/overall player and bigman in the entire league. People seem to not be able to distinguish between those two points.

First, what makes LeBron a better defender than Kobe? The fact that he gets steals and weakside blocks? Kobe can still lock people down while being athletically inferior. LeBron is hardly a lock down defender. Second, Lebron has like 2 or 3 inches of height and even more given his athleticism so obviously he's going to be a better rebounder.

Third, Gasol has averaged 20 points per game twice in his career back when he was the #1 option in Memphis. In LA, he's the #2 option and still averages 18 or 19 points per game while Howard struggles to score 20 despite being the #1 option and having like the highest FG % in the NBA. So no, Howard is not a better scorer. He can just dunk.

The ratings are fine just the way they are.

[seanbarkley]

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(...)Gasol is equally to an aging Duncan, but worse than Dwight Howard. Gasol has such great offensive skill, but has managed to never score even 20 points a night. Dwight, with his "limited" skills, has done it twice. Gasol is only better at passing and shooting FT's, but Dwight is a better scorer, rebounder and he is the best defender in the NBA.

Blame me for being also a Spaniard, but I completely disagree!

[Playmakers]

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McGee isn't very skilled, he's got great size and athletic ability. Overall he's still a raw talent, I'm sure even with a 59 he's still a beast.

I hope one of the dev can answer this for me but I have a question about the ratings and its effect on association. We all can agree that Dirk is better than D.Lee but they're both rated 83 and I'm sure a lot has to do with Lee being an incredible rebounder. But in association, how do you distinguish the two? Like would your chances of winning a ring be greater with Dirk in 2k or with Lee if you were simming the season?

Hmmm

Future HOF Dirk who is still at the top of his game being an 83..............

He's arguably coming off a better year than his MVP season

Oh well I guess that's why you can always adjust ratings because this is highway robbery

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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Wow that was a stupid comment
y dont u also tell me rondo is a better point guard than lebron james? does that make him a better player?
sometimes i wonder if people actually know the sport
dwight is a better player than rondo that's not a crazy statement to make, and in fact, many people would agree so yeah... keep making "smart" remarks, but just know they're really, REALLY ****ing stupid

The fact that a PG has a higher rating than a C doesn't mean that the PG is a better player than the C either. They play completely different positions.

[Playmakers]

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Gasol is better than Dwight and Duncan. He has a midrange game and is a FAR better passer, FT shooter than Howard.

You'd be lucky to have more than 10 GM's take Gasol over Howard

[JayMizzle]

Usually I'd say "these ratings are too low!" but I know that 2K's amazing gameplay puts all these numbers to work well.

[threes_co]

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Uh, Lebron is a better rebounder, defender, passer and is far more efficient offensively than Bryant. Bryant is still great, but LeBron is the best player in the entire league.



Wrong. Gasol is equally to an aging Duncan, but worse than Dwight Howard. Gasol has such great offensive skill, but has managed to never score even 20 points a night. Dwight, with his "limited" skills, has done it twice. Gasol is only better at passing and shooting FT's, but Dwight is a better scorer, rebounder and he is the best defender in the NBA.

The L.A. hype is in full effect I see. They are the two best players on the best team in the NBA, not the best swingman/overall player and bigman in the entire league. People seem to not be able to distinguish between those two points.

Gasol has average 20 PPG twice.

[tn187]

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Rajan Rondo was on espn today, and he stated that he had learned that his rating was a 92 overall and that he was satisfied with his ratings. So i don't think these will be gonna be the final ratings unless someone can confirm he was wrong?

[MrBallaBoy21]

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Gasol has average 20 PPG twice.

Not in LA is what he meant I think.

[Eman5805]

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Hmmm

Future HOF Dirk who is still at the top of his game being an 83..............

He's arguably coming off a better year than his MVP season

Oh well I guess that's why you can always adjust ratings because this is highway robbery

Sounds fair to me. Probably a 90 in offense, a 50something on D, combined with a 22 in toughness/88 in softness.

[threes_co]

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Not in LA is what he meant I think.

Well D12 has not averaged 20 PPG since VC joined the team so there was no point in saying that.

[Pongsona]

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Knew somebody was gonna say this.
Shooting stats From 16-23 Feet from players who played in at 30 games and 20 mpg

Dirk 3.8 makes 8.3 attempts 46%
Nash 1.8 makes 3.9 attempts 46%
CP3 2.2 makes 4.9 attempts 45%
Melo 2.9 makes 7.1 attempts 40%
Kobe 2.5 makes 6.0 attempts 41%
KD 2.2 makes 5.8 attempts 37%
Wade 1.9 makes 5.3 attempts 36%
Rose 3.0 makes 6.9 attempts 44%

If you are gonna go by the percentage then you're right. But, you and I both know that his number doesn't tell the whole story. Defenders give Rose a lot of space because his main strengths are his quickness and ability to get into the lane, not his midrange jumpshot. Kobe shot 41% - are you telling me Rose's midrange jumpshot is better than Kobe's? I sure hope not. To say Rose is one of the best jump shooters from 16-23 feet because of the percentage is pretty laughable. With that said, I still think he's one of the best PG's in the NBA.

Here are some of the players who had lower shooting % from 16-23 feet than Rose..

Deron Williams
Richard Hamilton
Mike Bibby
Kobe Bryant
Ben Gordon
Peja Stojakovic

So yeah. Numbers don't always tell the whole story.

[plastict]

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Some quick thoughts:

Ariza is too high
Joe Johnson is too high
Igoudala is too high
Bargnani is too high
Kirilenko is too low
Nowitzki is too low
Noah is too low
Nene and Kenyon Martin are both a little high

[BaselineBakes]

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Darren Collison @ 80 while Brandon Jennings is a 76 and Tony Parker is 78 is really the only thing that stood out to me.

Kobe shouldn't be the same as Bron and Wade anymore both have been better individual players the past year.

D-Will 94
Melo, CP3, Durant - 95
Kobe - 96
Wade - 97
Bron - 98

No big deal though, once you learn how to play with whoever your controlling, there moves and so on and so forth a 90 rated player is still the elite player of the group no matter the number between them.