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  • Yeah...THAT Guy
    Once in a Lifetime Memory
    • Dec 2006
    • 17301

    #346
    Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

    Originally posted by J_Posse512
    Uh, Lebron is a better rebounder, defender, passer and is far more efficient offensively than Bryant. Bryant is still great, but LeBron is the best player in the entire league.



    Wrong. Gasol is equally to an aging Duncan, but worse than Dwight Howard. Gasol has such great offensive skill, but has managed to never score even 20 points a night. Dwight, with his "limited" skills, has done it twice. Gasol is only better at passing and shooting FT's, but Dwight is a better scorer, rebounder and he is the best defender in the NBA.

    The L.A. hype is in full effect I see. They are the two best players on the best team in the NBA, not the best swingman/overall player and bigman in the entire league. People seem to not be able to distinguish between those two points.
    First, what makes LeBron a better defender than Kobe? The fact that he gets steals and weakside blocks? Kobe can still lock people down while being athletically inferior. LeBron is hardly a lock down defender. Second, Lebron has like 2 or 3 inches of height and even more given his athleticism so obviously he's going to be a better rebounder.

    Third, Gasol has averaged 20 points per game twice in his career back when he was the #1 option in Memphis. In LA, he's the #2 option and still averages 18 or 19 points per game while Howard struggles to score 20 despite being the #1 option and having like the highest FG % in the NBA. So no, Howard is not a better scorer. He can just dunk.

    The ratings are fine just the way they are.
    Last edited by Yeah...THAT Guy; 09-23-2010, 08:34 PM.
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    • seanbarkley
      MVP
      • Sep 2008
      • 2098

      #347
      Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

      Originally posted by J_Posse512
      (...)Gasol is equally to an aging Duncan, but worse than Dwight Howard. Gasol has such great offensive skill, but has managed to never score even 20 points a night. Dwight, with his "limited" skills, has done it twice. Gasol is only better at passing and shooting FT's, but Dwight is a better scorer, rebounder and he is the best defender in the NBA.
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      • Playmakers
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2004
        • 14972

        #348
        Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

        Originally posted by infam0us
        McGee isn't very skilled, he's got great size and athletic ability. Overall he's still a raw talent, I'm sure even with a 59 he's still a beast.

        I hope one of the dev can answer this for me but I have a question about the ratings and its effect on association. We all can agree that Dirk is better than D.Lee but they're both rated 83 and I'm sure a lot has to do with Lee being an incredible rebounder. But in association, how do you distinguish the two? Like would your chances of winning a ring be greater with Dirk in 2k or with Lee if you were simming the season?
        Hmmm

        Future HOF Dirk who is still at the top of his game being an 83..............

        He's arguably coming off a better year than his MVP season

        Oh well I guess that's why you can always adjust ratings because this is highway robbery
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        • Yeah...THAT Guy
          Once in a Lifetime Memory
          • Dec 2006
          • 17301

          #349
          Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

          Originally posted by snoopluca
          Wow that was a stupid comment
          y dont u also tell me rondo is a better point guard than lebron james? does that make him a better player?
          sometimes i wonder if people actually know the sport
          dwight is a better player than rondo that's not a crazy statement to make, and in fact, many people would agree so yeah... keep making "smart" remarks, but just know they're really, REALLY ****ing stupid
          The fact that a PG has a higher rating than a C doesn't mean that the PG is a better player than the C either. They play completely different positions.
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          • Playmakers
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2004
            • 14972

            #350
            Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

            Originally posted by ace23
            Gasol is better than Dwight and Duncan. He has a midrange game and is a FAR better passer, FT shooter than Howard.
            You'd be lucky to have more than 10 GM's take Gasol over Howard
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            • JayMizzle
              Banned
              • Feb 2010
              • 143

              #351
              Usually I'd say "these ratings are too low!" but I know that 2K's amazing gameplay puts all these numbers to work well.

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              • threes_co
                Banned
                • Sep 2009
                • 1931

                #352
                Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

                Originally posted by J_Posse512
                Uh, Lebron is a better rebounder, defender, passer and is far more efficient offensively than Bryant. Bryant is still great, but LeBron is the best player in the entire league.



                Wrong. Gasol is equally to an aging Duncan, but worse than Dwight Howard. Gasol has such great offensive skill, but has managed to never score even 20 points a night. Dwight, with his "limited" skills, has done it twice. Gasol is only better at passing and shooting FT's, but Dwight is a better scorer, rebounder and he is the best defender in the NBA.

                The L.A. hype is in full effect I see. They are the two best players on the best team in the NBA, not the best swingman/overall player and bigman in the entire league. People seem to not be able to distinguish between those two points.
                Gasol has average 20 PPG twice.

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                • tn187
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 7

                  #353
                  Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

                  Rajan Rondo was on espn today, and he stated that he had learned that his rating was a 92 overall and that he was satisfied with his ratings. So i don't think these will be gonna be the final ratings unless someone can confirm he was wrong?

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                  • MrBallaBoy21
                    Pro
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 670

                    #354
                    Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

                    Originally posted by ace23
                    Gasol has average 20 PPG twice.
                    Not in LA is what he meant I think.
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                    • Eman5805
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 3545

                      #355
                      Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

                      Originally posted by Playmakers
                      Hmmm

                      Future HOF Dirk who is still at the top of his game being an 83..............

                      He's arguably coming off a better year than his MVP season

                      Oh well I guess that's why you can always adjust ratings because this is highway robbery
                      Sounds fair to me. Probably a 90 in offense, a 50something on D, combined with a 22 in toughness/88 in softness.

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                      • threes_co
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 1931

                        #356
                        Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

                        Originally posted by MrBallaBoy21
                        Not in LA is what he meant I think.
                        Well D12 has not averaged 20 PPG since VC joined the team so there was no point in saying that.

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                        • Pongsona
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 146

                          #357
                          Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

                          Originally posted by K_Dub
                          Knew somebody was gonna say this.
                          Shooting stats From 16-23 Feet from players who played in at 30 games and 20 mpg

                          Dirk 3.8 makes 8.3 attempts 46%
                          Nash 1.8 makes 3.9 attempts 46%
                          CP3 2.2 makes 4.9 attempts 45%
                          Melo 2.9 makes 7.1 attempts 40%
                          Kobe 2.5 makes 6.0 attempts 41%
                          KD 2.2 makes 5.8 attempts 37%
                          Wade 1.9 makes 5.3 attempts 36%
                          Rose 3.0 makes 6.9 attempts 44%
                          If you are gonna go by the percentage then you're right. But, you and I both know that his number doesn't tell the whole story. Defenders give Rose a lot of space because his main strengths are his quickness and ability to get into the lane, not his midrange jumpshot. Kobe shot 41% - are you telling me Rose's midrange jumpshot is better than Kobe's? I sure hope not. To say Rose is one of the best jump shooters from 16-23 feet because of the percentage is pretty laughable. With that said, I still think he's one of the best PG's in the NBA.

                          Here are some of the players who had lower shooting % from 16-23 feet than Rose..

                          Deron Williams
                          Richard Hamilton
                          Mike Bibby
                          Kobe Bryant
                          Ben Gordon
                          Peja Stojakovic

                          So yeah. Numbers don't always tell the whole story.
                          Last edited by Pongsona; 09-23-2010, 08:59 PM.

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                          • plastict
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 18

                            #358
                            Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

                            Some quick thoughts:

                            Ariza is too high
                            Joe Johnson is too high
                            Igoudala is too high
                            Bargnani is too high
                            Kirilenko is too low
                            Nowitzki is too low
                            Noah is too low
                            Nene and Kenyon Martin are both a little high

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                            • BaselineBakes
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 1510

                              #359
                              Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

                              Darren Collison @ 80 while Brandon Jennings is a 76 and Tony Parker is 78 is really the only thing that stood out to me.

                              Kobe shouldn't be the same as Bron and Wade anymore both have been better individual players the past year.

                              D-Will 94
                              Melo, CP3, Durant - 95
                              Kobe - 96
                              Wade - 97
                              Bron - 98

                              No big deal though, once you learn how to play with whoever your controlling, there moves and so on and so forth a 90 rated player is still the elite player of the group no matter the number between them.

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                              • InRodWeTrust
                                Pro
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 533

                                #360
                                Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

                                Dwight Howard isnt a scorer... hes just more athletic than everybody who guards him so he gets points... Kevin Durant is a scorer... he has multiple ways to get buckets... Kobe Bryant is a scorer... Lebron is a scorer... hell even Jamal Crawford is a scorer... you gotta play those guys for the drive, the jumper, or the pass... Dwight Howard you already know what hes going to do there is just nobody in the NBA physically able to stop him from doing it.

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