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  • jeebs9
    Fear is the Unknown
    • Oct 2008
    • 47568

    #526
    Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

    Originally posted by mvspree8
    I think Bogut's better, and I don't even think it's close. Consider these numbers from last season:

    Bynum: 65 65 30.4 0.570 0.000 0.739 2.7 5.6 8.3 1.0 0.5 1.4 1.8 3.0 15.0
    Bogut: 69 69 32.3 0.520 0.000 0.629 3.0 7.1 10.2 1.8 0.6 2.5 1.9 3.2 15.9

    So in a nutshell, Bynum shoots a better percentage from the floor and the line, has slightly fewer turnovers (1.8 to 1.9) and slightly fewer fouls (3.0 to 3.2) while Bogut played more games, had more rebounds (offensive/defensive/total, 10.2 to 8.3), more assists, more steals, more blocks, and scored more points.

    I don't even see any argument for Bynum TBH. I think Bogut is arguably the second or third best center in the league behind Dwight Howard and possibly Kaman/Lopez. Bynum is maybe a top 10 center but his inconsistent effort and inability to stay healthy are two HUGE detriments.
    The rebounding and blocks are what do it for me.
    Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
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    • jeebs9
      Fear is the Unknown
      • Oct 2008
      • 47568

      #527
      Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

      Originally posted by crabcola
      KD is one of the top 3 players in the game.

      Sent from my PB99400 using Tapatalk
      Is that your opinion?...lol

      Because even though the ratings say KD is overall rated a 91. When I play with him. He is a top 5 player in this game.
      Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHP_5GUBQo

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      • InRodWeTrust
        Pro
        • Sep 2009
        • 533

        #528
        Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

        Originally posted by detriotpistonfan
        do ya'll realize that they've given wall a higher vertical rating than lebron and josh smith ? his vert rating is 98.

        really eager to see that roster update once the game comes out cause that is ridiculous
        You do know John Wall actually has a higher vertical leap than them both right?

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        • J-H!zZl3
          Rookie
          • Sep 2009
          • 423

          #529
          Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

          Originally posted by Primerica
          Joe is where he should be, him and Roy are basically the same overall, some feel one better than the other but in reality, they are the same.
          In reality? According to who? Lol. I do feel that Roy is a better player than Joe Johnson on both ends of the floor.

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          • InRodWeTrust
            Pro
            • Sep 2009
            • 533

            #530
            Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

            People dont realize than the overall ratings are based on the core attributes for that position... Dirk is Low because hes a shooter... 3pt shooting is not a core PF attribute... he doesnt block shots... hes not great on the boards... hes not great in the low post.... hes not incredibly strong.

            As long as he plays like he does in real life then it shouldnt matter

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            • Colts18
              MVP
              • Feb 2010
              • 1959

              #531
              Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

              Originally posted by InRodWeTrust
              You do know John Wall actually has a higher vertical leap than them both right?
              Rod,

              My brother.

              John Wall did not test the best when it comes to vertical leap. He did extremely well. But neither did Josh Smith. I don't think either of them deserves a 98. Well, I do not think Wall does for that matter. The only 99s should be NAthan Robsinson from the Celtics as well as Elliot Williams for the Blazers (48 vertical).

              Control F to find Wall - http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-...ce=All&sort=12
              Last edited by Colts18; 09-24-2010, 02:34 PM.

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              • Primerica
                Rookie
                • Nov 2007
                • 470

                #532
                Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

                Originally posted by J-H!zZl3
                In reality? According to who? Lol. I do feel that Roy is a better player than Joe Johnson on both ends of the floor.
                I feel otherwise.

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                • Themule
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 7

                  #533
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRb6oFU-aVs watch this

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                  • Colts18
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 1959

                    #534
                    Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

                    Originally posted by J_Posse512
                    At the same time, we argue about which player is "more versatile" or "complete" than the other. We look at the sum of their parts to "determine" who is a superior or inferior player. That's one reason why statistics are taken and exist. Otherwise, why don't that just keep score and remove all individual statistics.
                    JPosey,

                    Yes, you are correct. We do argue which player is a more versatile thret. You are very correct. But since NBA 2K9, 2K has given us the luxury of seeing letter grades for a number of core categories. If I am not mistaken, if you press in the Left Thumb Nimble on the controller, if brings up grades and not numbers.

                    I prefer this system. It tells me what I need to know. You can view the grades to see how versatile a player is. You do not need the assistance of an overall rating to make that conclusion.

                    As I mentioned to Brother Jeebs in a previous post, when scouting a player, you discuss each group of skills he has or doesn't have. You do not give that player an overall grade/scout.

                    I feel it should be the same way here. Here is an example of Football Manager which is one of the leading simulation sports titles out there. Notice how there is not an overall rating but from viewing the chart, you can clearly see what he does well and poorly.

                    Technical
                    Mental
                    Physical

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                    • jeebs9
                      Fear is the Unknown
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 47568

                      #535
                      Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

                      ^^Speaking the truth^^
                      Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHP_5GUBQo

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                      • unbeleavable2
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 1

                        #536
                        I know as a rookie he didnt make much noise last season because we lost all the time. But jrue holiday a 70? really? after all the games i watched last season he was the best player on the court. he outplayed iggy in just about every single game. im not saying he should be an 85 with ig but a 75 wouldnt be wrong. but a 70 is.

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                        • Stickz24
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 156

                          #537
                          Opinion piece .. but it should help add some gas to the fire ...

                          http://bleacherreport.com/articles/471878-nba-power-rankings-top-30-teams-amp-players-entering-2010#page/66

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                          • jeebs9
                            Fear is the Unknown
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 47568

                            #538
                            Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

                            Originally posted by Stickz24
                            Opinion piece .. but it should help add some gas to the fire ...

                            http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...g-2010#page/66
                            Melo was number 9 on that list. I think Durant was a number 3. And Dirk was a number 4.
                            Hands Down....Man Down - 2k9 memories
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHP_5GUBQo

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                            • DakkoN
                              All Star
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 5611

                              #539
                              Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

                              This thread is like 27 pages of people going in circles

                              Person A: "mann my boi d rose rated 2 low.. why he lower den d howard???"
                              Person B names 5+ players who's ratings are too low..
                              Person C: "Guys.. Center's have different core ratings than Point Guards.. why does everyone keep comparing different positions??"
                              Then Person D comes in and assumes the role of Person A.


                              I'd like to see someone take count of how many times that has happened in this thread.. It's just going in circles over and over..
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                              • Jukeman
                                Showtime
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 10955

                                #540
                                Re: NBA 2K11: Starting Five Roster Ratings

                                All the players are too high (except guys below 60)

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