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  • Real2KInsider
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    • Dec 2003
    • 4660

    #16
    Re: Final list of NBA 2K11 Player Ratings w/ Jordan team ratings

    Originally posted by shawnomega
    Considering Magic is better then Lebron, and a hall of famer.
    Magic didn't win an MVP until age 27. LeBron is 25 and already has 2. You sure about that?

    Considering how many championships he won?
    LeBron wasn't drafted to a team that had Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (and later James Worthy). Magic wasn't drafted to a team that had Darius Miles and Ricky Davis.

    Considering he was still one of the best guards in the league, and many thought of him as passing the torch to Jordan? Look Jordan is my idol, and all time favorite. But that doesn't mean I don't know Magic was amazing. Like I said I guess I understand because he retired in 91'.
    He IS underrated, but the reason's you gave weren't exactly legit. Deron Williams is rated 92 overall and Magic blows him away in just about every area of the game besides 3pt shooting (which he had finally added to his game, in 1990).
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    • shawnomega
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      • Sep 2010
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      #17
      Re: Final list of NBA 2K11 Player Ratings w/ Jordan team ratings

      Originally posted by VDusen04
      Yeah, I'm fairly confident that more players than this will be included for each team. Your theory seems about right. Or at least, I hope your theory's right. Further, it seems like your theory would make sense because Adam Keefe is likely rated above Greg Ostertag, who started on at least one of those squads I believe. Plus, I remember seeing Duckworth from the '92 Blazers in a screenshot too. The quote stating that they had all five starters accounted for from each team, most of the bench guys that mattered, and were trying to tie up the rest (or something like that) led one to believe there'd at least be a chunk of a bench from each team.

      Edit: Whoops, I did not see the Rashidi post. Only five players on the Jazz teams? Are the generics editable through and through (names, faces, attributes, etc.)?
      They said there will be generics and the will be editable. Just an FYI, part of the deal was 2k doesn't have the time or money to track down every player from the teams. So they focused on the main core people.
      " My coach always told me, you know Michael there's no ' I ' in team. One day I told him, your right Coach there is no ' I ' in team, but there is an I in win. "
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      • TheWorldIsYours
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        • May 2010
        • 363

        #18
        Re: Final list of NBA 2K11 Player Ratings w/ Jordan team ratings

        Originally posted by shawnomega
        No no I see what your saying, I wasn't expecting a 99. I wish Kareem was in the game. I was going to create him. I want to put him and magic together. What are your thoughts on ratings/ Year I should look at?
        Well If your creating Kareem. I believe that in the late 80's his rating would have been from high 80's in 1985 to low 80's by 1988 and into the 70's for his last two seasons.

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        • VDusen04
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2003
          • 13034

          #19
          Re: Final list of NBA 2K11 Player Ratings w/ Jordan team ratings

          At least 95% of the classic team starters are included. I'll trust that someone out there will be able to fill out the remainder of these rosters on 2KShare with excellent precision.

          Originally posted by shawnomega
          They said there will be generics and the will be editable. Just an FYI, part of the deal was 2k doesn't have the time or money to track down every player from the teams. So they focused on the main core people.
          Thanks. And good point. It probably would have been a double pain to find Jack Haley, Bobby Hansen, and Steve Scheffler; not to mention fallen pros like Kevin Duckworth and Bison Dele (Brian Williams).

          I swear I saw Kevin Duckworth in the back of a screenshot though. It must have been a generic.
          Last edited by VDusen04; 09-26-2010, 10:02 AM.

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          • Real2KInsider
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            • Dec 2003
            • 4660

            #20
            Re: Final list of NBA 2K11 Player Ratings w/ Jordan team ratings

            Originally posted by shawnomega
            They said there will be generics and the will be editable. Just an FYI, part of the deal was 2k doesn't have the time or money to track down every player from the teams. So they focused on the main core people.
            Sorry, but I just have to LOL @ that notion.

            I don't have the time or money either but apparently I've got a leg up on a multi-million dollar company and franchise.
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            • TheWorldIsYours
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              • May 2010
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              #21
              Re: Final list of NBA 2K11 Player Ratings w/ Jordan team ratings

              Originally posted by Rashidi
              Sorry, but I just have to LOL @ that notion.

              I don't have the time or money either but apparently I've got a leg up on a multi-million dollar company and franchise.
              Not even mentioning the fact that "you" a regular guy that does not even work for 2ksports or anything to do with basketball video games in the first place, does not have to pay people for their likeness and to have them in video games.

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              • shawnomega
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                • Sep 2010
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                #22
                Re: Final list of NBA 2K11 Player Ratings w/ Jordan team ratings

                Originally posted by Rashidi
                Magic didn't win an MVP until age 27. LeBron is 25 and already has 2. You sure about that?



                LeBron wasn't drafted to a team that had Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (and later James Worthy). Magic wasn't drafted to a team that had Darius Miles and Ricky Davis.



                He IS underrated, but the reason's you gave weren't exactly legit. Deron Williams is rated 92 overall and Magic blows him away in just about every area of the game besides 3pt shooting (which he had finally added to his game, in 1990).
                Yes, I am no basketball guru like some of the people on here. I just think he was special that's all. I dislike Kobe as a person, but I guess I just don't understand how Lebron can be rated the same as him. Also Wade too, and I really like Wade, but I just think they should be like 95 - 96. That's just my humble opinion. Again I am not trying to state they aren't talented, it's just an opinion.
                " My coach always told me, you know Michael there's no ' I ' in team. One day I told him, your right Coach there is no ' I ' in team, but there is an I in win. "
                - Michael Jordan, HOF Speech. G.O.A.T.

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                • VDusen04
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 13034

                  #23
                  Re: Final list of NBA 2K11 Player Ratings w/ Jordan team ratings

                  Originally posted by Rashidi
                  Sorry, but I just have to LOL @ that notion.

                  I don't have the time or money either but apparently I've got a leg up on a multi-million dollar company and franchise.
                  I think he was referring to acquiring each players' individual rights for usage of their likenesses on their respective classic teams. Unless, is that what you were talking about too? Maybe I shouldn't speak for someone else. I can just see it being tough to locate, convince, and pay 8-12 players from 18 different classic teams. I'd imagine that could get costly at some point.

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                  • Real2KInsider
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                    • Dec 2003
                    • 4660

                    #24
                    Re: Final list of NBA 2K11 Player Ratings w/ Jordan team ratings

                    Originally posted by TheWorldIsYours
                    Not even mentioning the fact that "you" a regular guy that does not even work for 2ksports or anything to do with basketball video games in the first place, does not have to pay people for their likeness and to have them in video games.
                    They can afford to pay Dave Corzine but not John Salley? Come on.

                    How much do you want to bet Jacque Vaughn is sitting in the Free Agents list but won't be on the 98 Jazz? This ain't about "money".
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                    • TheWorldIsYours
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                      • May 2010
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                      #25
                      Re: Final list of NBA 2K11 Player Ratings w/ Jordan team ratings

                      Originally posted by Rashidi
                      They can afford to pay Dave Corzine but not John Salley? Come on.
                      Um maybe John Salley wanted more money? After all he was an actor that appeared in several movies and television shows, maybe he sees himself as bigger than Corzine.

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                      • VDusen04
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 13034

                        #26
                        Re: Final list of NBA 2K11 Player Ratings w/ Jordan team ratings

                        Originally posted by Rashidi
                        They can afford to pay Dave Corzine but not John Salley? Come on.
                        I'd think it's also largely dependent on who can be contacted, who is willing to be contacted, and then who is agreeable to the terms offered. Like the above poster said, I'd guess there's a large chunk of players who either just don't want to be involved in a video game or put a larger price tag on their likeness than 2K could afford to dish out.

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                        • TheWorldIsYours
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                          #27
                          Re: Final list of NBA 2K11 Player Ratings w/ Jordan team ratings

                          Originally posted by shawnomega
                          Yes, I am no basketball guru like some of the people on here. I just think he was special that's all. I dislike Kobe as a person, but I guess I just don't understand how Lebron can be rated the same as him. Also Wade too, and I really like Wade, but I just think they should be like 95 - 96. That's just my humble opinion. Again I am not trying to state they aren't talented, it's just an opinion.
                          Alright but your basing that off the guy's entire CAREER. Of course Magic is one of the top 3 players in NBA history.

                          But was Lebron's 2009-2010 better than Magic's 90-91 season. Definitely

                          Was Wade's 2009-2010 better? maybe not but to give him the benefit of the doubt his defense during that season was better than's Magic for the 90-91 season.

                          I get what you are trying to say and if we were comparing Career's then you'll have a extremely valid point.

                          But where not, where debating a 90-91 season and the upcoming season. and trust me I think Lebron at 25 is better than Magic at age 31.

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                          • shawnomega
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                            • Sep 2010
                            • 73

                            #28
                            Re: Final list of NBA 2K11 Player Ratings w/ Jordan team ratings

                            Originally posted by Rashidi
                            They can afford to pay Dave Corzine but not John Salley? Come on.

                            How much do you want to bet Jacque Vaughn is sitting in the Free Agents list but won't be on the 98 Jazz? This ain't about "money".
                            Also keep in mind the structure of a players rights in the contract. Guys like Michael Jordan, and Charles Barkley are not part of the retired players union like most guys are. For alot of the retired players all 2k has to do is pay the union a lump sum and they get X amount of players with that. But with the bigger players, Jordan, Barkley they have the rights to there likeness. I know they said for instance that they wanted to add Kareem but he is a hard person to get a hold of. Some guys for better or worse may not want to be in a video game. Personally I think it would be an honor, but I guess money changes people.
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                            • shawnomega
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                              • Sep 2010
                              • 73

                              #29
                              Re: Final list of NBA 2K11 Player Ratings w/ Jordan team ratings

                              Originally posted by TheWorldIsYours
                              Alright but your basing that off the guy's entire CAREER. Of course Magic is one of the top 3 players in NBA history.

                              But was Lebron's 2009-2010 better than Magic's 90-91 season. Definitely

                              Was Wade's 2009-2010 better? maybe not but to give him the benefit of the doubt his defense during that season was better than's Magic for the 90-91 season.

                              I get what you are trying to say and if we were comparing Career's then you'll have a extremely valid point.

                              Yeah, I get where you are coming from, and respect it. I like that you use logic and that you can discuss it without biting my head off.

                              But where not, where debating a 90-91 season and the upcoming season. and trust me I think Lebron at 25 is better than Magic at age 31.
                              I get what your saying, and I respect that I you. I think it's cool that you can discuss it was logic, and not trying to bite my head off. I find it fun to talk about the old school players,.
                              " My coach always told me, you know Michael there's no ' I ' in team. One day I told him, your right Coach there is no ' I ' in team, but there is an I in win. "
                              - Michael Jordan, HOF Speech. G.O.A.T.

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                              • VDusen04
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 13034

                                #30
                                Re: Final list of NBA 2K11 Player Ratings w/ Jordan team ratings

                                Originally posted by Rashidi
                                How much do you want to bet Jacque Vaughn is sitting in the Free Agents list but won't be on the 98 Jazz? This ain't about "money".
                                I wouldn't be surprised if Jacque is finally off the free agents list. Though, James Edwards played for the '96 Bulls in the playoffs (not included on roster) but he is included on the '90 Pistons. So I guess they could have thrown two James' out there. Maybe they did not find it worthwhile to create an accurate, greyed Buddha, as he just played 28 minutes in '96.

                                Otherwise, I understand the constraints that come along with putting together classic teams like these with all real players. I'm just glad they came through and at least got the ball rolling. I'll take classic teams with 5-8 real players and editable generics over no classics at all.

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