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  • pdawg17
    Pro
    • Mar 2004
    • 937

    #1216
    Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

    Originally posted by nccomicfan
    5 days to get motivated to even try this demo

    15 minutes to download

    2 to install

    5 in a tutorial

    1 minute of regular play against the Lakers

    10 seconds to scrap the new controls

    1 minute of demo with old controls

    press exit game

    press triangle to delete

    30 seconds to decide this title has lost my business for the duration of the current 3 year plan
    This is the typical timeline around here and why the game is slammed so hard...10 seconds to scrap the new controls? Now that's giving it a chance

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    • bruhman
      Rookie
      • May 2010
      • 59

      #1217
      Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

      Originally posted by pdawg17
      This is the typical timeline around here and why the game is slammed so hard...10 seconds to scrap the new controls? Now that's giving it a chance
      Sometimes when you know you just know, like if a 4 star restaurant serves you burnt chicken you dont eat it until it tastes good, you tell the waiter; what is this ish, im not paying for this. Ea sports burnt and put a booger in my chicken and im hungry, also why am i projected first round with 5 turnovers in to be legendary?

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      • jmood88
        Sean Payton: Retribution
        • Jul 2003
        • 34639

        #1218
        Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

        Originally posted by pdawg17
        This is the typical timeline around here and why the game is slammed so hard...10 seconds to scrap the new controls? Now that's giving it a chance
        The controls really aren't that difficult to understand and aren't what most people don't like about the demo.
        Originally posted by Blzer
        Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

        If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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        • DickDalewood
          All Star
          • Aug 2010
          • 6263

          #1219
          Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

          Originally posted by jmood88
          The controls really aren't that difficult to understand and aren't what most people don't like about the demo.
          Exactly. Controls are hardly the main issue with this title.

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          • MLB01
            Banned
            • May 2010
            • 537

            #1220
            Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

            Originally posted by bruhman
            Sometimes when you know you just know, like if a 4 star restaurant serves you burnt chicken you dont eat it until it tastes good, you tell the waiter; what is this ish, im not paying for this. Ea sports burnt and put a booger in my chicken and im hungry, also why am i projected first round with 5 turnovers in to be legendary?
            How would you know how it tastes, unless you eat it ?

            Also, how would the underlined part apply to gaming ? You don't play it until it looks good ? You don't play it until it feels good ?

            In my opinion, your analogy doesn't make complete sense.

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            • bruhman
              Rookie
              • May 2010
              • 59

              #1221
              Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

              Originally posted by MLB01
              How would you know how it tastes, unless you eat it ?

              Also, how would the underlined part apply to gaming ? You don't play it until it looks good ? You don't play it until it feels good ?

              In my opinion, your analogy doesn't make complete sense.
              In my opinion you lack common sense because its not that complicated. The analogy is you try the product even though it looks unattractive and realize its exactly what you thought it was at first glance. You dont have to play the demo for 2-3 hours to know it doesnt appeal to you, not that complicated.

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              • nccomicfan
                MVP
                • May 2006
                • 1530

                #1222
                Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                Originally posted by pdawg17
                This is the typical timeline around here and why the game is slammed so hard...10 seconds to scrap the new controls? Now that's giving it a chance
                Understand this, I am a long-time gamer who is not a big fan of completely stick-driven controls, so Elite was already on thin ice with me. Nothing about the demo felt comfortable

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                • blueduke
                  Pro
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 885

                  #1223
                  Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                  I really like the controls. Took a little getting used to though. One thing I don't like is players seem to have a rocket up their butt when they jump. It seems they jump a little too quickly. Wished they'd take last years version and give it this years controls and do a little AI tweaking. Don't like the announcers either. I miss Marv Albert. I don't miss the "Czar"
                  Last edited by blueduke; 09-26-2010, 03:22 PM.

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                  • DickDalewood
                    All Star
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 6263

                    #1224
                    Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                    Originally posted by pdawg17
                    This is the typical timeline around here and why the game is slammed so hard...10 seconds to scrap the new controls? Now that's giving it a chance
                    Unfortunately, this is the typical response around here to someone who doesn't care for the game. There are a LOT of people here who have spent a LOT of time learning this game, and still think it's terrible. What's your clever refute to them?

                    The game took a step back in controls, gameplay, graphics... essentially everything. That is my opinion based on MULTIPLE play-throughs of the demo. You may enjoy it, and that is great, but to the majority of us, this is just NOT a good effort on EA's part... and it has little to nothing to do with amount of time spent or not spent "learning" these so-called complicated controls... and don't fool yourself, they're not that difficult... they're mainly just not that good.

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                    • Arod2k9
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 446

                      #1225
                      Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                      Originally posted by DickDalewood
                      Unfortunately, this is the typical response around here to someone who doesn't care for the game. There are a LOT of people here who have spent a LOT of time learning this game, and still think it's terrible. What's your clever refute to them?

                      The game took a step back in controls, gameplay, graphics... essentially everything. That is my opinion based on MULTIPLE play-throughs of the demo. You may enjoy it, and that is great, but to the majority of us, this is just NOT a good effort on EA's part... and it has little to nothing to do with amount of time spent or not spent "learning" these so-called complicated controls... and don't fool yourself, they're not that difficult... they're mainly just not that good.
                      Completely agree with everything you said. I actually deleted the demo after a minute of playing time. Everything about the game just feels and looks horrible: jumping, shooting, rebounding, etc. I'm so disappointed with this game because Live 10 was actually a good game which I purchased last year. NBA Elite has to make a better product to give users an option to play a realistic brand of gaming.

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                      • akiracy
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 261

                        #1226
                        Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                        Tried out the demo today

                        So i was doing the layup tutorial, why is my guy falling over after every layup? There's no turbo or contact with another player, I'm like casually walking up for a layup and falling over. I know its a small nitpick but how can you claim to have real time physics and not have something as simple as momentum.

                        Skill based shooting IMO is just a gimmick, you wouldn't even know its there if you hadn't see the bar in practice. The only difference between this and that of the other game is that you adjust left or right when you shoot. Ratings still come into play to determine how wide your bar is, and you still have to time your release.

                        Is there no icon passing?

                        Perhaps its due to my short time with the demo, but when i try to iso against the cpu, they either get their ankles broken or they stick me tight, shouldn't there an in between?

                        CPU PG will dribble out most of the clock, it doesn't seem like they know what they are doing

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                        • rEAnimator
                          NBA Elite Developer
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 666

                          #1227
                          Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                          Originally posted by poseidon44
                          rEAnimator, I haven't been this excited about an NBA game in years and it's mainly due to the new control system. THANK YOU for implementing this into Elite 11 and not recycling the same, stale game that another NBA video game company keeps repackaging as a "new" game.

                          I know that Elite 11 has taken some bad press, but I truly believe that lazy gamers and game reviewers are intimidated by the new controls. Instead of looking at this game with an open mind and try to learn/adapt to the new control scheme.....they bash it because it's not their typical "button mash" game that they are comfortable with.

                          Regarding shooting (bolded above).....I can't seem to hit a jumper to save my life. LOL. I really hope that the first patch you guys release addresses the sensitivity of the shot stick control.

                          Once I change the controls to "alternate/Live" my jumpshot shooting skills return but it defeats the purpose of the new control system.

                          Unfortunately when I shoot in the practice gym, it doesn't seem to translate out in a 5v5 game. Please help!

                          p.s. any idea if a NBA Elite 11 Strategy Guide is set to release (ala Madden 11)?
                          Glad to hear you're enjoying yourself.

                          Shooting in practice mode is generally easier because you have the shot HUD visible, and the shots aren't contested.

                          In game, many shots will be contested and that reduces the size of the sweet spot.

                          Try to work more for open looks, and try and set yourself before the shot.

                          If you have looks like that they should be as easy as practice mode.

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                          • BlakeSabbath84
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 17

                            #1228
                            Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                            Originally posted by Arod2k9
                            Everything about the game just feels and looks horrible: jumping, shooting, rebounding, etc. I'm so disappointed with this game because Live 10 was actually a good game which I purchased last year.
                            Yep.

                            I have given this demo a chance, but after playing multiple times and hitting 9 threes in a row with Fisher, followed by the same with Bryant ins following games, not to mention how bad the player models look and behave (watch how awkward Gasol looks when he runs up the court) I am so disappointed that I actually need to buy this game just so I can play NBA JAM.

                            Perhaps this whole bundling JAM with Elite deal on PS3/Xbox is something EA felt they needed to do knowing the game was going to be so underdeveloped upon release. There's a theory...

                            And as for rEAnimator, I appreciate the fact you're here and contributing to the debate about the pros and cons of the demo, but lets be honest here you're blatantly ignoring to reply on the true criticisms brought up by just about everybody in here.

                            I for one would like to know if these numerous negative comments are being relayed to your co-workers/superiors and if so what are the responses from that end?

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                            • rEAnimator
                              NBA Elite Developer
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 666

                              #1229
                              Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                              Originally posted by BlakeSabbath84
                              Yep.

                              I have given this demo a chance, but after playing multiple times and hitting 9 threes in a row with Fisher, followed by the same with Bryant ins following games, not to mention how bad the player models look and behave (watch how awkward Gasol looks when he runs up the court) I am so disappointed that I actually need to buy this game just so I can play NBA JAM.

                              Perhaps this whole bundling JAM with Elite deal on PS3/Xbox is something EA felt they needed to do knowing the game was going to be so underdeveloped upon release. There's a theory...

                              And as for rEAnimator, I appreciate the fact you're here and contributing to the debate about the pros and cons of the demo, but lets be honest here you're blatantly ignoring to reply on the true criticisms brought up by just about everybody in here.

                              I for one would like to know if these numerous negative comments are being relayed to your co-workers/superiors and if so what are the responses from that end?
                              What am I avoiding? I'm not doing it on purpose. Point me to a question you'd like me to answer.

                              As for your question, the answer is yes. The entire dev team is fully aware of the reaction from OS, as are the higher ups.

                              Most of the dev team reads OS, especially for demo reactions.

                              The "higher ups" receive a report that Yaw compiles. I've seen it, and it represents the sentiment here quite accurately.

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                              • Flashstriker101
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 134

                                #1230
                                Re: NBA Elite 11 Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                                Originally posted by rEAnimator
                                What am I avoiding? I'm not doing it on purpose. Point me to a question you'd like me to answer.

                                As for your question, the answer is yes. The entire dev team is fully aware of the reaction from OS, as are the higher ups.

                                Most of the dev team reads OS, especially for demo reactions.

                                The "higher ups" receive a report that Yaw compiles. I've seen it, and it represents the sentiment here quite accurately.

                                Do all the players in the game have the same dribble package cause it seems they all do it sjust sped up for some and slowed down for others

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