CONFIRMED: NBA Elite 11 Delayed until 2011

[DocHolliday]

Re: CONFIRMED: NBA Elite 11 Delayed until 2011

I hope that the "great Elite debacle" of 2010 will open EAs eyes on how to make a game. You don't need gimmicks if you deliver great game play and atmosphere. The hype will be created by the consumer. 2K 11 is the best thing robhappen to EA. I think there whole product line will be better because of it.

I think this could have happened to madden if 2K was still in football, cause that game is no where near where it should be at this point.

What an **** turn of events.

[23]

Re: CONFIRMED: NBA Elite 11 Delayed until 2011

We obviously didn't do that. Honestly we didn't see many of those issues probably because it was so early in the process. I'm hoping to get back up there ASAP, I've already told the devs my bags are packed and ready to go.

Yeah man, that was an example... but im sure you guys mentioned alot of things that many of us like, and its not there, and sometimes in place of some other technical unrealistic thing...

Forget sig stuff but lets put in off the backboard dunks

[welcome2jungle]

nba jam should of been released for ps3 & xbox 360 from day one.. ea in 2010 been a year of fumbles for them i see and im disappointed as a EA 15 years strong supporter. I bought every basketball release since day one and after this i believe i dont have any more faith in them.. that demo was horrible in every way and the controls where the WORST. seriously why change the controls makes 0 sense to me really do..

[phreshprince]

Good.,, So now they can get their sh*t together, because they were about to release the worst basketball game in the Live/EA series.

[StickeeGreen]

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I cant help but to laugh at the people thats still saying it wasnt that bad what demo did you play???.....even EA knew it was bad this this article is proof and your still in denial btw got my early copy of NBA 2k11 give it a try gurantee you wont go back to NBA Live well Elite or wateva its called

This. NBA Elite basically layed down, crossed their arms and buried themselves...

[rEAnimator]

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I agree with this. Problem is I as a consumer feel like they just tried to sell me a product that wasnt the "final goal". I have been saying I loved the demo as a base game ,but it wasnt anywhere near close to being gold. And if the negative outlook hadnt been ridiculously obvious they would have gone gold with it anyways.

I dont think you have this kind of delay unless the issues are undeniable and not once even after the bad impression of the demo did any of the devs. even hint at a delay. Where is the trust? Which is a shame because like I said earlier in this thread rEAnimator has been one of the most candid devs. I have seen on OS.

I didn't know about this until this morning.

[StickeeGreen]

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Question:

HOW DO THEY HAVE THE CONSUMERS IN MIND!!!!?????


This is like a movie being delayed because the trailer was panned and the early critic reviews were negative. Movie Studios dont delay movies for the good of the consumer. They do it because it cost money to ship, print and advertise the movie and they are cautious about losing money.

EA recognized they were about to take a huge loss and made a financial decision. Thats it. The demo was being panned by hardcore and casual gamers and EA realized that catching a brick with the first version of your "new" brand is disastrous for this yr and the future.

EA didnt delay the game for you the consumer. They did it for the long term financial viability of their NBA basketball series.

You are a smart man aholbert32. This move will also hurt EA big time...They will never be able to compete with 2K now. 2K will become the new Madden...

[stepsix]

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This is all I've got to say right now: Obviously you guys have a strong voice as a community. I've been applying to be able to post on these boards since late Live 09, and was finally able to some time earlier this year. I've met Da Czar, Pared, HoosierDaddy, Sovartus and a number of others, and discussed with many more of you online. It's intimidating and humbling at the same time having access to the opinions of so many experts, but the only reason I wanted to post here was to solicit the feedback from those that are most passionate about these games.

I'm not here to discuss decisions made that I can't control, but I will say that whether it was via patch, or the new delayed product, I'm looking to you guys as the community with the megaphone to continue to be vocal about what you want.

End cheese. As rEAnimator said it's been a long day, but just know that if I'm not as vocal, I'm reading every post and taking notes.

[Scottdau]

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I wish you guys all the luck. I know this must have not been an easy decision, but I respect their decision. I think a lot of games need to take this approach.

[HOLLIDAY1183]

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Wow, lot of emotions in this thread, and now that I think about it, that's to be expected. This is big news, for us the hardcore NBA fans, EA (the devs esp), and for this franchise.

You might feel this is a purely by-the-numbers decision, aimed at reducing losses incurred had "Elite" released in its current condition....

You may feel EA deserves praises, for "looking out for the consumer" and "taking community feedback seriously"....

You may feel like your intelligence has been insulted, certain that had the response to the demo been slightly less negative, this would have released, and devs would still be here two weeks from now praising "Elite" for its "revolutionary" control, w/commercials playing claiming it has "unprecedented features for a basketball game"...in other words, EA woulda kept their game face on pretending this was complete when WE ALL KNOW IT WASN'T....

For me, it's all of the above.

But as a hardcore NBA/Basketball gamer, I saw this headline, and almost smiled literally. Sometimes, though business is business, and profits trump all, in the end, we win. We won with this whole development today. EA made a business decision, and the result is in everybody's best interest, and that's why I'm happy. Who cares about anything, really, except the fact that we are going to get a BETTER game out of this.

Every day at work (VZW), I make purely business decisions. A single-line customer on her eighth Storm, is getting another Storm replacement. A customer with 25 business lines, on their 3rd, heck I will probably tell the rep to upgrade her to her choice of device, WITH a discount.

Why? Because it's worth it. They'd lose $$ by not releasing "Elite" but a TON less by cutting it short right now, and getting to work on "Elite/Live" 12.

Which brings me to my next thought: I doubt we'll see an "Elite 11" at all. I think releasing "Elite" 11 is another business decision that won't make sense, whether it's January or April. I think conference calls are happening now that are debating not just whether or not to cancel 11, but more-so "How do we break this to them in the most positive light possible? How will we spin it to still look good?"

What I'm hoping (and why I put the "Live" in the last paragraph, lol) is that they reopen the code for Live 10, and try to find a way to marry it with parts of the new system they tried with "Elite" (if this is even possible). I don't even know, maybe like have real physics trigger in a congested lane or something. But just keep ALL OF LIVE 10 intact, and build off it. More sig, more personality, revamped Dynasty, fully fleshed out online options. Maybe full dynamic half- and post-game shows showcasing dynamic footage from around the league (they were on to something with the saved replays playing on the bigscreeen. "Rebrand" it Live again, and announce they're going back to the "Soul of the game."

Fire Littman and NEVER let him near the studio again. Honestly guys, doesn't it kinda tick you off that the actual devs (rEAnimator, stepsix) are here all day, defending a game that is the result of HIS vision, and where has he been. His vision has been met with 99% negative feedback, and these guys are here on the frontline defending it.

Why isn't Littman here explaining to us why it isn't important to have in-game injuries, and true to life signature animations? Ugh

[DickDalewood]

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Well, at least if someone wants to buy a "new" NBA game this year with current rosters and DNA updates, they can pick up NBA Live 10 for $29.99 brand new.

[welcome2jungle]

I remember it was a point in time where i wouldnt play 2k nba games cause EA didnt make it. Im glad i just playing 2k in 2008 best move i made on video game tip in while. Trust me EA will lose alot consumer faith especially when kevin durant on the cover. I see nba elite sneakers and all. Why EA fumbling on basketball titles but on football they make sure they come correct on that.. EA switch the controls on fight night round 4 i didnt appreciate that either.. Then switch controls up on Elite 11 was a bad move. Alot hype was around this game because Kevin Durant is hottest player in nba right now. Why I read EA take shots at 2k11 for having jordan on the cover like it was gimmick when they didnt have their own game in order.

[StickeeGreen]

Re: CONFIRMED: NBA Elite 11 Delayed until 2011

I remember it was a point in time where i wouldnt play 2k nba games cause EA didnt make it. Im glad i just playing 2k in 2008 best move i made on video game tip in while. Trust me EA will lose alot consumer faith especially when kevin durant on the cover. I see nba elite sneakers and all. Why EA fumbling on basketball titles but on football they make sure they come correct on that.. EA switch the controls on fight night round 4 i didnt appreciate that either.. Then switch controls up on Elite 11 was a bad move. Alot hype was around this game because Kevin Durant is hottest player in nba right now. Why I read EA take shots at 2k11 for having jordan on the cover like it was gimmick when they didnt have their own game in order.

Anyone that thinks the buzz about Jordan and 2K11 had nothing to do with this seriously need to reevaluate. Going head to head would be suicide, even if Elite was better. I know people who haven't bought a new sports game in years, but Jordan has them getting 2K.

[welcome2jungle]

Nba live 10 was on point and so many people agree to that. Nba Elite 11 name change was a bad move period point blank. Nba Live 10 had me excited about the Live Series again. We need Nba live 10 but better and things be good wood.

[Db-Ransom]

Wow, lot of emotions in this thread, and now that I think about it, that's to be expected. This is big news, for us the hardcore NBA fans, EA (the devs esp), and for this franchise.

You might feel this is a purely by-the-numbers decision, aimed at reducing losses incurred had "Elite" released in its current condition....

You may feel EA deserves praises, for "looking out for the consumer" and "taking community feedback seriously"....

You may feel like your intelligence has been insulted, certain that had the response to the demo been slightly less negative, this would have released, and devs would still be here two weeks from now praising "Elite" for its "revolutionary" control, w/commercials playing claiming it has "unprecedented features for a basketball game"...in other words, EA woulda kept their game face on pretending this was complete when WE ALL KNOW IT WASN'T....

For me, it's all of the above.

But as a hardcore NBA/Basketball gamer, I saw this headline, and almost smiled literally. Sometimes, though business is business, and profits trump all, in the end, we win. We won with this whole development today. EA made a business decision, and the result is in everybody's best interest, and that's why I'm happy. Who cares about anything, really, except the fact that we are going to get a BETTER game out of this.

Every day at work (VZW), I make purely business decisions. A single-line customer on her eighth Storm, is getting another Storm replacement. A customer with 25 business lines, on their 3rd, heck I will probably tell the rep to upgrade her to her choice of device, WITH a discount.

Why? Because it's worth it. They'd lose $$ by not releasing "Elite" but a TON less by cutting it short right now, and getting to work on "Elite/Live" 12.

Which brings me to my next thought: I doubt we'll see an "Elite 11" at all. I think releasing "Elite" 11 is another business decision that won't make sense, whether it's January or April. I think conference calls are happening now that are debating not just whether or not to cancel 11, but more-so "How do we break this to them in the most positive light possible? How will we spin it to still look good?"

What I'm hoping (and why I put the "Live" in the last paragraph, lol) is that they reopen the code for Live 10, and try to find a way to marry it with parts of the new system they tried with "Elite" (if this is even possible). I don't even know, maybe like have real physics trigger in a congested lane or something. But just keep ALL OF LIVE 10 intact, and build off it. More sig, more personality, revamped Dynasty, fully fleshed out online options. Maybe full dynamic half- and post-game shows showcasing dynamic footage from around the league (they were on to something with the saved replays playing on the bigscreeen. "Rebrand" it Live again, and announce they're going back to the "Soul of the game."

Fire Littman and NEVER let him near the studio again. Honestly guys, doesn't it kinda tick you off that the actual devs (rEAnimator, stepsix) are here all day, defending a game that is the result of HIS vision, and where has he been. His vision has been met with 99% negative feedback, and these guys are here on the frontline defending it.

Why isn't Littman here explaining to us why it isn't important to have in-game injuries, and true to life signature animations? Ugh

exactly my point man.... i respect rEAnimator and stepsix alot and feel bad for them because there here defending the game, when it wasnt there vision (theyll never admit to it not being there vision), if there was a way to fuse elites shooting, rtp, presentation, into live 10, with improved grpahics, and more sig stuf, and animations, wed have one HELL of a game... hell since 2k took a page out of eas book this year, take a couple out of theirs, put old retro teams in the game.... ive owned every live since 2000, this is a disappointing day for a ea fanboy like myself.... ima jordan nuthugger(almost got into fist fights because people call kobes name and jordans into the same sentence lol), and i REFUSE to buy 2k, i absolutely HATE the way it moves and feels.... c'mon ea yall dominate every other sport game, time to do the right thing and take over basketball too