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**bonannogiovanni** · 09-29-2010, 09:15 AM

Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

Originally posted by spankdatazz22

I don't think you can fault 2K11 for not taking the exact same approach; that shouldn't be what's expected. You're also discounting important presentation elements that 2K11 does that 2K5 doesn't, which are really too numerous to name. Things such as:

- arena specific sounds
- branching conversation topics
- all the post game stuff (pressbook, signature highlights, etc.)
- all the NBA Today specific stuff which is specific to a person's Association or the live league

I love 2K5 as much as the next person but it's a matter of different approaches. I don't think 2K11 (or any other game) should be expected to do every exact little thing 2K5 did and then some. They may never want to have a digital representation of a studio host for example. But I agree w/you, there'll always be room for improvement. And ultimately I agree that 2K11's head and shoulders (and I'd throw in torso) above what today's sports games are doing presentation-wise

Great Insight btw; really looking forward to all of the new stadium-specific sounds and NBA Today 2.0

You're right and I was well aware of discounting presentation elements totally absent in 2k5, because we're comparing two games one of which is six years younger than the other and has had the benefit of being developed using more powerful hardware.

**KyotoCarl** · 09-29-2010, 09:17 AM

Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

Originally posted by RGmoney

See my earlier post: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2041671711

So even the Around the League game will be in? I read in the Q&A from baseball guy that he's played a couple of Association games and they have featured the half-time show but NOT the Around the League part.

**ABA QontrolZ** · 09-29-2010, 09:20 AM

Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

**johnprestonevans** · 09-29-2010, 09:38 AM

Well the video shown here in this thread seems to indicate that the out of town highlights are generated IN-GAME. They are not "live" video streamed from real NBA games. Which i hope also means that the scores being shown around the league are not from the real NBA, but rather from out Association mode games. I didn't buy 2K10 last year, so i dont really know what NBA Today is all about. Does this mean that you are only playing games that exist on that calendar day in the real NBA? I dont really care about that. I want a living breathing franchise with all the score, stats and highlights coming from the game engine - not streamed from the real life NBA.

**kolanji** · 09-29-2010, 10:23 AM

Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

great......that was nice to add a little more toppings on the cake just a week b4 christmas... i mean release day

**andxxx** · 09-29-2010, 10:46 AM

I hope the promos and nba today are in association

**eko718** · 09-29-2010, 10:48 AM

Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

Very good insight. The audio upgrades are magnificent, especially the stadium specific sounds. Commentary has come a long way as well.

**spankdatazz22** · 09-29-2010, 10:53 AM

Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

Originally posted by bonannogiovanni

You're right and I was well aware of discounting presentation elements totally absent in 2k5, because we're comparing two games one of which is six years younger than the other and has had the benefit of being developed using more powerful hardware.

no prob - and we're on the same page; I've made that specific point about 2K5 many times over. I still marvel at how well they integrated [at the time] ESPN presentation with a videogame. Telestrator and commentary about offensive lineplay? That's ridiculous, even today when the next gen football games haven't come close to sniffing what they did. I was just saying that I didn't think 2K11 needed to do everything 2K5 did + what they're doing now to be considered best presentation ever in a sports game

**COACH WEBB** · 09-29-2010, 11:03 AM

Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

Commercials? Man, I've been waiting to see that implemented into a game. Glad to see halftime clips from other games as well.

Great job 2k!

**Dalsanto0026** · 09-29-2010, 11:26 AM

Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

Originally posted by KyotoCarl

So even the Around the League game will be in? I read in the Q&A from baseball guy that he's played a couple of Association games and they have featured the half-time show but NOT the Around the League part.

This has me a little confused as well. I get the impression that "Around The League" won't be in Association. I assume that most people would be spending more time in Association anyway so it seems like a waste of such a cool feature if it's only used in NBA Today.

**johnprestonevans** · 09-29-2010, 11:31 AM

Im confused to, as i didnt have 2K10. Is Association different from NBA Today? Are these 2 seperate modes? I was under the impression that NBA Today was the presentation hub of the game's franchise. Meaning "NBA Today" is the segment/brand that is given to the halftime show within our franchises. Is "NBA Today" a MODE?

**spankdatazz22** · 09-29-2010, 11:35 AM

Re: NBA 2K11 Developer Insights: NBA Today 2.0 / Audio

Originally posted by johnprestonevans

Im confused to, as i didnt have 2K10. Is Association different from NBA Today? Are these 2 seperate modes? I was under the impression that NBA Today was the presentation hub of the game's franchise. Meaning "NBA Today" is the segment/brand that is given to the halftime show within our franchises. Is "NBA Today" a MODE?

The cool thing about NBA Today was that you could play it as a "mode" in one-off games and everything NBA Today-related would be specific to what was going on in the real NBA. In Association games, the NBA Today stuff is related to your personal Association - it's VERY cool, and a very innovative feature.

**johnprestonevans** · 09-29-2010, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by spankdatazz22

The cool thing about NBA Today was that you could play it as a "mode" in one-off games and everything NBA Today-related would be specific to what was going on in the real NBA. In Association games, the NBA Today stuff is related to your personal Association - it's VERY cool, and a very innovative feature.

That is what im talkin' about! Baseballguy's comments did not reflect in-progress games around the league or highlights from other franchise/association games. I really hope this stuff exists within our Associations because that is the mode im going to be playing.

**Lbj6TheChosen1** · 09-29-2010, 12:00 PM

All i got to say is BRAVO 2k...BRAAAVO!!!!!...just keep kickin it up a notch wowww!!!!!

**johnprestonevans** · 09-29-2010, 01:37 PM

Found this information from a 2K10 article talking about the relationship between Association Mode and NBA Today:

"The first and probably most important new addition to the 2K formula is called NBA Today. It's both a small mode in the game and a feature that permeates just about every other game you'll play. From the main menu clicking on NBA Today will bring you to a list of real NBA games that are set to take place. For our purposes – and since the NBA season hasn't started yet – we were treated to a list of pre-season games. NBA Today not only keeps up with the current NBA schedule, but it also has an effect on things like franchise mode.

NBA Today influences what you hear from the commentators in NBA 2K10. Say, for instance, you're nearing the All-Star Game in your franchise. Prior to the break you'll hear Clark Kellogg and company referencing who's on the starting lineup or if anyone from your team made the squad. They'll also talk about your chances of making the playoffs and other aspects of your franchise."

I guess we'll have to wait and see how this translates to 2K11 next Tuesday and whether or not all the new NBA Today 2.0 content will cascade through our franchise games.