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  • cgrierwv75
    Banned
    • Jun 2009
    • 232

    #1

    This game needs another tuner.

    Passing is way too easy now, run game is weaker, and there is NO defense. Every game i play online lately is a shoot out. I really liked that the game was more defensive when it first came out. I'm not saying i liked all the dropped balls, battle balls, and mirror man coverage... but i did like that my defense had a chance. There are almost no dropped balls, no break ups, and i can't get a pass rush for my life. Everyone online is now dropping straight back and waiting for the open man. If you drop back (not turn and run), you can buy just enough time for someone to get open, regardless of the coverage. Even if you come straight through on an A Gap blitz. So annoying. I'm extra screwed b/c my team has weak defensive ratings to boot.

    The next tuner needs to add in a few more of the drop/breakup animation that was overdone before. Also needs to kill the accuracy of QB's throwing while still dropping back (moving backwards).

    Really not liking the gameplay these days... feels like NCAA 09.
  • khaliib
    MVP
    • Jan 2005
    • 2878

    #2
    Re: This game needs another tuner.

    Sorry you feel that way.
    One of the problems with online play, is that no programming can/will fix how a human player will play.

    Another issue is that the type of rosters your using will affect gameplay because whoever did the rosters, edited player ratings to their "Perspective", which will affect cpu gameplay (DB coverage, DL pass rush, WR route running etc...).

    I'm glad I'm an offline player.

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    • cgrierwv75
      Banned
      • Jun 2009
      • 232

      #3
      Re: This game needs another tuner.

      Originally posted by khaliib
      Sorry you feel that way.
      One of the problems with online play, is that no programming can/will fix how a human player will play.

      Another issue is that the type of rosters your using will affect gameplay because whoever did the rosters, edited player ratings to their "Perspective", which will affect cpu gameplay (DB coverage, DL pass rush, WR route running etc...).

      I'm glad I'm an offline player.


      Wow.. really? Online games use default ratings/roster and yes turner can adjust how successful a player is at say... passing and never having an incompletion.

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      • wsboan11
        Rookie
        • Feb 2009
        • 86

        #4
        Re: This game needs another tuner.

        i'm offline user and this game SUCKS offline. there does need to be anther tuner released to address the unstoppable cpu offense. i am always giving up 300 plus passing yards with oregon, even to FCS and small schools with qbs in the lower 70s. i can never get a user generated sack either, i have to get lucky in zone coverage and block up the route the qb was looking for at first and i might get really lucky and get a sack from the cpu controlled dlinemen. not to mention special teams is a joke and there are very few possibilities on kick return, punt returns, even field goals. how the **** do people say this is the best college game to date. maybe it is on the new gen but give me a break about the best of all time.
        live and get high

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        • Golds
          Rookie
          • May 2007
          • 155

          #5
          Re: This game needs another tuner.

          kkman187's sliders...problem solved.

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          • TomBrady
            Rookie
            • Oct 2009
            • 425

            #6
            Re: This game needs another tuner.

            Originally posted by wsboan11
            i'm offline user and this game SUCKS offline. there does need to be anther tuner released to address the unstoppable cpu offense. i am always giving up 300 plus passing yards with oregon, even to FCS and small schools with qbs in the lower 70s. i can never get a user generated sack either, i have to get lucky in zone coverage and block up the route the qb was looking for at first and i might get really lucky and get a sack from the cpu controlled dlinemen. not to mention special teams is a joke and there are very few possibilities on kick return, punt returns, even field goals. how the **** do people say this is the best college game to date. maybe it is on the new gen but give me a break about the best of all time.
            Its not the game that sucks. Its your defensive play and playcalling that suck.

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            • cgrierwv75
              Banned
              • Jun 2009
              • 232

              #7
              Re: This game needs another tuner.

              Originally posted by TomBrady
              Its not the game that sucks. Its your defensive play and playcalling that suck.
              I wouldnt say that... im a level 12 player online, and lately ive been getting torched by average at best players b/c of the lack of rush and weak pass defense. Sliders mean nothing to me...

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              • PocketScout
                Recruiting App
                • Jun 2010
                • 1392

                #8
                Re: This game needs another tuner.

                Originally posted by cgrierwv75
                I wouldnt say that... im a level 12 player online, and lately ive been getting torched by average at best players b/c of the lack of rush and weak pass defense. Sliders mean nothing to me...
                Your issue needs a tuner since you are stuck with default sliders (online), offline players are a different issue, either they need proper sliders or to learn how to play the game better.

                Something else that needs to be addressed is superman dl and lb jumping 5ft into the air to deflect a pass.
                NCAA 2014: Current Dynasty

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                • scarlet_knights
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 35

                  #9
                  Re: This game needs another tuner.

                  After playing several games I've come to the simple conclusion that this game is no longer challenging because of poor AI play calling.

                  I've also come to the conclusion that the only way to keep the CPU in the game is to nerf my offense via sliders. Remarkably, at the end of the games the CPU/USER stats are usually realistic, but I find the AI simply can not execute when it really matters.

                  It really is a sad reality because this probably is something that cannot be fixed with a tuner.

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                  • Roggie
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1753

                    #10
                    Re: This game needs another tuner.

                    Originally posted by PocketScout
                    Your issue needs a tuner since you are stuck with default sliders (online), offline players are a different issue, either they need proper sliders or to learn how to play the game better.

                    Something else that needs to be addressed is superman dl and lb jumping 5ft into the air to deflect a pass.
                    This. This has came back with a vengeance and is just destroying the OD I'm in. Last year 2 guys ended undefeated, and 4 of us only lost user games. Now all of us have already lost, and we're in week 6. The top defensive player gave up 61 points to Oklahoma after the patch (we were looking for sliders to tone down Robo QB, and it was still a work in progress that week. Had Clemson go 20-24 on me, and the only incompletions were a user swat, 2 times the QB was hit when passing, and a drop).

                    But the superhuman linebackers and defensive linemen are getting RIDICULOUS now.
                    North Carolina Tar Heels
                    Virginia Tech Hokies
                    Michigan Wolverines
                    Chicago Bulls
                    Detroit Tigers
                    Detroit Red Wings
                    Detroit Lions

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                    • Bullet Sponge
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 828

                      #11
                      Re: This game needs another tuner.

                      Originally posted by Roggie
                      This. This has came back with a vengeance and is just destroying the OD I'm in. Last year 2 guys ended undefeated, and 4 of us only lost user games. Now all of us have already lost, and we're in week 6. The top defensive player gave up 61 points to Oklahoma after the patch (we were looking for sliders to tone down Robo QB, and it was still a work in progress that week. Had Clemson go 20-24 on me, and the only incompletions were a user swat, 2 times the QB was hit when passing, and a drop).

                      But the superhuman linebackers and defensive linemen are getting RIDICULOUS now.
                      Out of curiosity, what difficulty level and sliders do you play on?

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                      • jsou4646
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 1524

                        #12
                        Re: This game needs another tuner.

                        Originally posted by cgrierwv75
                        Passing is way too easy now, run game is weaker, and there is NO defense. Every game i play online lately is a shoot out. I really liked that the game was more defensive when it first came out. I'm not saying i liked all the dropped balls, battle balls, and mirror man coverage... but i did like that my defense had a chance. There are almost no dropped balls, no break ups, and i can't get a pass rush for my life. Everyone online is now dropping straight back and waiting for the open man. If you drop back (not turn and run), you can buy just enough time for someone to get open, regardless of the coverage. Even if you come straight through on an A Gap blitz. So annoying. I'm extra screwed b/c my team has weak defensive ratings to boot.

                        The next tuner needs to add in a few more of the drop/breakup animation that was overdone before. Also needs to kill the accuracy of QB's throwing while still dropping back (moving backwards).

                        Really not liking the gameplay these days... feels like NCAA 09.
                        Unfortunatley I have to agree with this post. They need to fix the cpu logic on field goals when playing on heisman level as well.

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                        • Dewie12
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 787

                          #13
                          Re: This game needs another tuner.

                          They need to make their tune files editable by the user....why would they create a file system like that and not allow the user to customize it for themselves?

                          EA is a baffling monolith. From NBA LIve/Elite to Madden to NCAA.....I have no idea what they are doing. Peter Moore....ugh.

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                          • kirkangil
                            Pro
                            • May 2003
                            • 985

                            #14
                            Re: This game needs another tuner.

                            Just played Baylor on heisman default.

                            Im ND of course.

                            There QB stats 43/38 666 yds 4td 0 int

                            Granted hes a 87 ovr 85tha 87thp

                            But jeez my B+ defense got torched.

                            Its starts with the non existant pass rush and then the mentally challenged secondary.

                            I have 10+ yrs in of playing NCAA so yes i know how to play defense.

                            I just hate having to play shootouts every game.

                            I never liked to mess with sliders because it never seems to balance out for me.

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                            • jsou4646
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 1524

                              #15
                              Re: This game needs another tuner.

                              Originally posted by kirkangil
                              Just played Baylor on heisman default.

                              Im ND of course.

                              There QB stats 43/38 666 yds 4td 0 int

                              Granted hes a 87 ovr 85tha 87thp

                              But jeez my B+ defense got torched.

                              Its starts with the non existant pass rush and then the mentally challenged secondary.

                              I have 10+ yrs in of playing NCAA so yes i know how to play defense.

                              I just hate having to play shootouts every game.

                              I never liked to mess with sliders because it never seems to balance out for me.
                              This game is unplayable without sliders, not to mention the fg logic of the cpu on the heisman level is an absolute joke. I've played this series since from the start. I don't expect the game to be perfect, it is a video game, but simple football logic that games in 1989 had is not too much to ask. They obviuosly know theres an issue, it is posted throughout these forums. It boggles my mind that they dont have someone play these games on each level before they realease it. Safe to say I'll never pre order another ea game. Quit messing with the fluff EA, next year just create a game that somewhat simulates a game please.

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