F1 2010 Impressions (PS3, 360, PC)

[lnin0]

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Fantastic. Scored my first points last night. It took 7 racing into the season but finally at the Turkish GP I managed to qualify 10th in the Virgin.

This was the first Q3 I had made it to and wasn't thinking about tires. I ran my options down raw and then realized I had to start on those things. I made an early pit to take on primes. During the race I got ahead of Hamilton and with my tires running into the yellow he really got close in the last few laps. He was pressing me hard but could never close the deal because I was faster in S2 and could open the gap back up. Finished in 9th and must say it was better than the million of Forza career wins I have.

I love how the AI drive in this game. They don't seem blind to your presence and typically make good moves to overtake. It even seems like they each have a little bit of their own personality.

[RJTurneR]

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Having the AI Difficulty set to Legend makes this game awesome. I didn't want to be scoring points as a Lotus in their first season, that isn't right. So now my objective is to beat Trulli (Team Mate) and finish ahead of the 3 new teams. I love it!

[catcatch22]

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So you will love it more when it's patched

The "complainers" are just wanting a product that lives up to the pre release billing. Nothing more. The "complainers" are likely to be F1 enthusiasts who cannot look past some of the bugs that detract from the game. They, we, aren't haters, we just want Code Masters to deliver on their promise to F1 fans.

I have been racing F1 games since the mid 90's. I am more of a CART guy unfortunately that series is dead (thanks Mr George). Yes there are bugs but this is the best driving model I have raced on any console I have ever had in relation to running lap times that are equivalent to the real times.

I have never been a franchise/career mode guy. I hate them in all sports games because they all stink. I just like gameplay and when it comes to racing games the driving model. When you turn all the assists off and go out there and run some laps the driving model really shines. Great job Codemasters!

I literally spent 3 straight hours running and changing my setup for Sakhir. That has been the first time I spent that many hours tuning a car since NASCAR racing 2003 and F1 challenge mod - Ralph Hummerich 2003 and 2005. Those were PC games. I never thought I would have to do that for a Console racer.

[randombrother]

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I literally spent 3 straight hours running and changing my setup for Sakhir. That has been the first time I spent that many hours tuning a car since NASCAR racing 2003 and F1 challenge mod - Ralph Hummerich 2003 and 2005. Those were PC games. I never thought I would have to do that for a Console racer.

Did you do this for the first race of the career Sakhir? I'm thinking also of having to put some time in to get the car dialed in right before I race the real race but I thought I was being dumb or something. I guess the question I have is how is this game designed to be approached? Do they really want us to spend alot of time before the actual races or is that just more for show?

[catcatch22]

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Did you do this for the first race of the career Sakhir? I'm thinking also of having to put some time in to get the car dialed in right before I race the real race but I thought I was being dumb or something. I guess the question I have is how is this game designed to be approached? Do they really want us to spend alot of time before the actual races or is that just more for show?

Yeah that was the first track. However I love running laps by myself tuning my car to get the fastest lap possible with the best car control possible for every corner.

This is what I would do for online play. I was primarily an online racer for many years and if you wanted to keep a reputation for being a good clean (no little mistakes that wreck the field) winning online driver, you had to practice and make your car not only fast but stable in every corner. Whether it be NASCAR or F1. The only way to get to that point is with lots of practice. For offline racing this is really not needed. I was in a lot of competitive leagues against guys who were very good and put in the same amount of time.

I think the assists allow you to play the game any way you want without having to put in a lot of work and time into it while still allowing others who enjoy doing so a racing model that offers that level of difficulty to actually have to master.

[OpusX910]

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Did you do this for the first race of the career Sakhir? I'm thinking also of having to put some time in to get the car dialed in right before I race the real race but I thought I was being dumb or something. I guess the question I have is how is this game designed to be approached? Do they really want us to spend alot of time before the actual races or is that just more for show?

I actually didnt see myself doing practice for more than few laps just to learn the track ( started career on short race weekend ).....after the first week I realized I better start learning how to tune my car and one hour wasnt gonna be enough practice time for me to do that....so I switched to full race weekend, and I actually have a lot of fun grinding out laps in practice and working on my setup.....it really feels rewarding to get a point finish when you work so hard on your setup during practice. This is literally the first racing game i've played where i dont wanna spike my controller if i dont win the race....haha

[gbx34]

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I got the game but don't know if i should open with all the problems ive read. It seems like it just seem likes it just kills the game.

I was planning to get this on release day but did not, i started reading the forums and i am now thinking twice.

[OpusX910]

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I got the game but don't know if i should open with all the problems ive read. It seems like it just seem likes it just kills the game.

I was planning to get this on release day but did not, i started reading the forums and i am now thinking twice.

you'll enjoy it....if not, once the patch is released the bugs will be fixed

[Bahnzo]

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After spending many hours with the game, I'm still having fun. But there are some issues that can be truly frustrating.

I race at 50% length, with a full race weekend and all aids turned off with expert AI settings.

With a middle of the pack car I qual first by more than .5 seconds. In my career, I'm qualing 12th with the Lotus. This just shouldn't be happening and it's down to the AI.

Being held on pits stops however is the most maddening thing. Even at 50% races, if there's anyone else pitting with you....you're gonna come out last. It's inexcusable that this was allowed into the final game.

Those two things are my only real complaints that I feel ruin the game for me.

Some little things:
no split times and no gap times to drivers around you.
The AI takes very suspect lines around the tracks that many times doesn't reflect the actual line that a real driver would take.
The AI's behavior in corners can be bad. They break way to early in many cases and don't get on the throttle hard enough in some corner complexes when another corner quickly follows.

The driving model is great and the tracks are pretty much accurate as far as I can tell. So the base is there for a great game and a good patch will restore a lot of confidence I think.

[DarthRambo]

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During the race, can I tell them to set my car up for a dry track? Race I'm in now it stops raining, so I change to prime tyres. But I want to change the car setup to fastest top speed for a dry track. How can I do this during the race? Or am I stuck with the wet race track setup I started with?

[catcatch22]

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During the race, can I tell them to set my car up for a dry track? Race I'm in now it stops raining, so I change to prime tyres. But I want to change the car setup to fastest top speed for a dry track. How can I do this during the race? Or am I stuck with the wet race track setup I started with?

They would have to take apart the car to do that dependent on what specific changes you wanted made. In the game while you are in the race the only adjustments you can make are wing adjustments. If anything if it is a race where there is a possible chance of rain and clear weather than you should set your car up for the dry weather and suffer with the car with the wet tires on.

The only adjustment that is doable mid race are wing adjustments. What you could do is work on a setup to adjust the car off your dry setup with just wing adjustments.

Meaning if you have a dry setup you like then practice with wet conditions but only make changes to the wings and nothing else. This way you know what to change and have been accustomed to racing in those conditions with those wing adjustments.

[Flamehead]

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Hey guys, what's a decent lap time for Bahrain, be it TT or race?

Of all the different types of racing, F1 is the type I've played the least, and I'm having the hardest time learning that track. I may need to switch from the cockpit view to the "T" cam, which will allow me to see a bit more, and maybe get over myself and play with some assists at first, lol. But I'm really hating this track.

What's a good lap time to shoot for?

[Bahnzo]

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Hey guys, what's a decent lap time for Bahrain, be it TT or race?

Of all the different types of racing, F1 is the type I've played the least, and I'm having the hardest time learning that track. I may need to switch from the cockpit view to the "T" cam, which will allow me to see a bit more, and maybe get over myself and play with some assists at first, lol. But I'm really hating this track.

What's a good lap time to shoot for?

I think sub 2minute there is decent. If you are struggling, don't be afraid to turn on the corner braking lines. When I'm learning a new track, I use those to get a feel for the braking zones then turn them off.

[The_Wraith420]

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Iv'e raced two career race's thus far at Bahrain I pitted as soon as my engineer told me the car in front of me was coming in for tire's I had planned on pitting early anyway to take on prime's got a 13th in the Virgin took the same approach at Malaysia and got a 16th but had a couple spin's that cost me....I have noticed the AI at time's in corner's has it's mind made up on it's line and die's not adjust if you slide up on them Hamilton spun by running into the side of me at Bahrain and Webber did the same thing at Malaysia I was holding my line so that may wanna be looked into as well...great game though I will be even happier when the bug's are fixed

[OpusX910]

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Iv'e raced two career race's thus far at Bahrain I pitted as soon as my engineer told me the car in front of me was coming in for tire's I had planned on pitting early anyway to take on prime's got a 13th in the Virgin took the same approach at Malaysia and got a 16th but had a couple spin's that cost me....I have noticed the AI at time's in corner's has it's mind made up on it's line and die's not adjust if you slide up on them Hamilton spun by running into the side of me at Bahrain and Webber did the same thing at Malaysia I was holding my line so that may wanna be looked into as well...great game though I will be even happier when the bug's are fixed

Yeah some of the stuff is frustrating....i hate how the car marker isn't super reliable so you dont always know if a guy is trying to dive in a corner on you, and spotter would be nice as well.

I just had an incredibly frustrating race....first in practice i get a 5 place penalty for causing a collision, except the AI was in control of my car cuz i use the jump to sector 3 out of garage...than raceday....its raining.....first race ive done in the rain.....anyway i decide since the forecast was only 20ish % to stay out as long as i can before i pit so i can make a better decision what tires to use ( hate pitting late because of all the pit bugs ), i pit on lap 7 in 4th ( why is the AI so slow in the rain? ) and come out in 14th after a 5.6 second stop. So I assumed a lot of cars had yet to pit, as well as my teammate cuz he started in 21st and was now in 6th. I can't be sure, but I think several AI didn't pit, I finished 14th, Webber finished 11th...Webber had the pole and was leading the race when him and I entered the pits in lap 7.

Grrrrrr......this game will be so very good once they fix these bugs. Its still an enjoyable game as it is for me tho.