Has anyone been able to get a spread option team rolling

[silkysmooth]

It seems like I'll go into practice and be able to have success, but when I get in the game the CPU is instantly perfect in it's pursuit and tackling. I think it's a little unrealistic to average 2.5 YPC with a team like Oregon playing an FCS team because the defense has just amazing pursuit and amazing awareness to know where the ball is on read plays.

Any tips for running the spread option? Good playbooks that have a nice mix of zone read/option plays with a little singleback or even I formation? Any tips on a team to use? I've been thinking about using either Oregon or Auburn because even though they are really good, I struggle running so much that it makes game challenging enough where losing is a possibility in pretty much every game.

Any help is appreciated

[volsman]

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It seems like I'll go into practice and be able to have success, but when I get in the game the CPU is instantly perfect in it's pursuit and tackling. I think it's a little unrealistic to average 2.5 YPC with a team like Oregon playing an FCS team because the defense has just amazing pursuit and amazing awareness to know where the ball is on read plays.

Any tips for running the spread option? Good playbooks that have a nice mix of zone read/option plays with a little singleback or even I formation? Any tips on a team to use? I've been thinking about using either Oregon or Auburn because even though they are really good, I struggle running so much that it makes game challenging enough where losing is a possibility in pretty much every game.

Any help is appreciated

Playmakers sliders + miss st playbook= success for me

[phlstar]

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Playmakers sliders + miss st playbook= success for me

miss state playbook = good for me

[silkysmooth]

Re: Has anyone been able to get a spread option team rolling

I don't know how anyone on this game can run the spread option with run blocking less than 80. I make the correct reads. I mix up plays, formations, packages. Yet still play action is auto sack and zone read means the DE auto crashes and the OLB behind him nano blitzes to my QB and it's either a fumble or negative play 85% of the time. And if it's not that it's a CB nano blitz to kill my HB before he gets to the line. It's hilarious to see my guys with like 50 yards on 9 carries and think it's a good game but when my long is like a 52 yard run on a broken play its pathetic. The blocking is truly terrible and the play development is so slow that it caters to the defense to call an option play because defenders don't even have to tackle you to slow you down. They can just stand where they are and one of them will make the play. Doesn't matter if you are killing them with the pass, but heaven ****ing forbid you run on the vaunted CPU defense.

This was Michigan vs ECU using Oregon's playbook.

On actual run plays, I had about 45 carries for 130 yards.

On broken plays I made with Denard and later Gardner (as of course Denard gets hurt in the 2nd quarter) I had like 4 carries for maybe 100 yards.

Truly pathetic.

[BlastX21]

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Use the Halfback Dives. They're in Oregon's playbook, Miss St.'s, and the like. Dont use the zone read. The handoff is too slow. The QB acceleration is too slow. By the time you hit the hole the defenders are off their blocks. Use the option pass. The defense will not all flock to the run and will stay with their receivers like real life. Load options are really good because you have an extra blocker. Also, dont pitch the ball unless your back is very open, defensive linemen are way too good at making athletic dance-style interceptions on pitches.

But the halfback dives are the main thing.

[ashamael]

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use playmaker's sliders/settings. I have great success running the spread option versus every team that has less than a B+ defense. Versus those, I have pretty big issues. Because of that, I like using the Wake Forest playbook. It has lots of good shotgun formations (lot of 2TE or 2RB ones, too, which makes for more blockers) as well as the normal wishbone, 5 I-forms, and an Ace (big). If you're having issues with the zone read versus a good team, switch it up for a drive and change things up. I've done that and gone back to the spread the next drive and had more success...

And yeah, I use zone read or triple option with a receiver most of the time. My qb is my leading rusher by far.

[dxb173]

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i use oregon and oregon's playbook on all american with default sliders. i am in the 3rd year of dynsasty and lead the nation in rushing both years. both barner and james have had 1000 yd seasons each year. i run the zone read many times a game but out of different formations. its best to use formation where the tight end is on the strong side and run to that side. also u have to set it up with passes from that formation or regular run plays. also use the counter out of that formation as well. the best way is just to run multiple run plays and not just zone read after zone read. also u really do have to practice reading the de but once u get used to it its a great play. again i play on all american not heisman in dynsasty. i have tried miss state playbook as well but for me the oregon playbook just works better. also throw in a draw now and then on first down then run a read out of the same formation on second. the computer is psychic so u got to do what u can to "trick" them lol. i probably made no sense in this post but i hope it helped dude. GO DUCKS!

[M1ndHe1st]

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you need a tight end or receiver to always block backside, the cpu almost always blitzes, i have goot luck using michigan's playbook because of the backside tight ends

[MrHyde]

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Use these slider settings:
CPU RB Ability 100
CPU Run Blocking 35
Human RB Ability 45
Human Run Blocking 35
Human Tackling 60
CPU Tackling 35
Human Rush Defense 0
CPU Rush Defense 0
*These sliders work well for me vs non option teams,have not tested vs option teams,but sure it would work.*Play vs an option offense to test.*

[Slaticus]

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You do know the reads right? I am not making fun of you I am just asking. Anyway if you don't watch my spread option video. I think I do a good job explaining the various reads.

And yes I have a lot of success running the spread option. I mix in a lot of PA and Jet Sweeps, combined with Oregons no huddle spread option attack. I use the SN's sliders on AA. Oh, and I use oregons PB as well.

And what do you consider a "Broken Play"? Again just asking.

[ashamael]

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I also pass a lot and am not afraid to call a quick audible. This is mostly when I'm lined up in a 4wr set and they come out in a 4-3. I really like running out of 2te or flex formations with a fb or h-back... when I line up in one of those, I don't worry about the audible unless I see an OLB and safety showing blitz from the same side.

[bklyn85]

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running out of the shotgun is easy if you have the right playbook. Oregons is good, Miss States is great and my personal favorite, like Blastx said halfback dives are money if you can get a good match up with the linebackers (if they come out in nickel or dime) but make sure its out of formations with halfback thats behind the QB about a step or two. This way when the DT or DE does that stupid super swim move, your running back is already going down hill and simply goes right past them when they do the move, as opposed to getting the hand off when the RB is standing right next to the QB and has to run horizontally thus letting the super swimming DT and DE eat up the play in the backfield. Dont get me wrong I still run that way alot, but the down hill running is my bread and butter, and watching oregon last night, thats what James was doing, running down hill and exploding past the line. BTW I have silders on AA with HUM run block at 45 and CPU run defence at 60 and still avg over 200 rush yards per game.

[KG]

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I think you have to tailor the sliders towards your style if you're using a spread team which means that if you're in an OD someone else can't be a power running team or else they are going to rush for crazy yards.

[rudyjuly2]

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I've gotten into running the spread more lately. It's not really an issue of sliders. There are certain plays that work better than others and the cpu defensive tendencies are also a major factor in how successful you run the option.

1 - The cpu tends to use run heavy personel sets on the early downs which really hurts the read option. If you are running 4 WRs and they come out in a 4-3 or nickel you will have to think strongly about audibling to a pass play. The Read Option still works well against the right defensive package but you have to be selective when running it.

2 - Load option runs, speed options and QB powers/dives still work really well. You should have success with these plays unless the defense has overloaded that side but these are still good.

3 - Play action sucks in this game. It too often leads to a sack and this aspect hurts the spread. In real life a play action out of a read option is a huge play and used quite often but it doesn't work well in NCAA 11.

4 - It takes practice to run this offense correctly. I've spent quite a bit of time in practice mode and I'm still a work in progress but I have had success with it.

[fistofrage]

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I think you have to tailor the sliders towards your style if you're using a spread team which means that if you're in an OD someone else can't be a power running team or else they are going to rush for crazy yards.

This is fact. If you want to be able to run the read options, you have to totally crank up the human sliders and it will make the power running teams destroy the AI.

But, I have some pretty challenging Heisman sliders and I get Miss. States offense running just fine. But there are plays that just don't really work. So you have to pick and choose and limit the playbook.