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  • thelwig14
    Banned
    • Jul 2002
    • 3145

    #466
    Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

    Originally posted by aholbert32
    Bad news folks. The 10-7 rounds are in the retail version. In a round that I took Matt Lindland down 9 times, two judges scored the round 10-7.
    Mother. Gamekiller...blows me away that it wasn't caught by anyone on the EA team. Anyone with any sense would immediately notice that.

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    • Lakers 24 7
      Pro
      • Nov 2006
      • 725

      #467
      Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

      Originally posted by ManiacMatt1782
      see to me this almost seems like an improvement over the whole judging system, i think in a 10 point must system, it states winner gets 10, opponent 9 or less. they need to use the entire 10 points. think about some fights where a guy wins a round but it was kinda close, but all 3 judges see it as 10-9. then the next round the other guy makes an adjustment, and convincingly wins the round, but wasnt given a 10-8 because it wasnt total dominance. Ideally total dominance should be scored 10-1 or 10-2. a convincing round would be in that 10-5 to 10-7 range, and 10-8 or 10-9 would be for close rounds. So honestly I'm kinda happy to see some 10-7s because to me thats a step in the right direction for mma. to be fair i havent seen straight 10-7s like i saw in the demo. also you could fight japanese or vale tudo and have no scores, just the entire fight scored as a winner or loser.

      That's too gamey though because that's not how it works in real life. Also, if you do get a 10-7 round, with only 3 rounds the fight is pretty much over. Besides that getting a bunch of TDs doesn't sound like a dominating round anyway, unless they were close to being finished.

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #468
        Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

        Originally posted by thelwig14
        Mother. Gamekiller...blows me away that it wasn't caught by anyone on the EA team. Anyone with any sense would immediately notice that.
        Its such a good MMA game but I have no idea how they missed this. But EA always has an issue with judging. Most of the Fight Night/Knockout Kings games had wonky judging imo.

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        • thelwig14
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 3145

          #469
          Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

          Originally posted by aholbert32
          Its such a good MMA game but I have no idea how they missed this. But EA always has an issue with judging. Most of the Fight Night/Knockout Kings games had wonky judging imo.
          True...but nowhere near as DUMB as 10-7. A 10-7 round is the equivalent of Jason Kidd averagin 30 points a game in NBA 2k11...it is something ANYONE with ANY sense would immediately notice that it is broken.

          The only logical explanation for this is Big John and a few others are on some crusade to change MMA judging...which just makes me want to vomit because this isn't even remotely the context to make some statement.

          It is broken and needs to get patched.

          I won't buy the game til it does because this forces every fight to be pointless unless it ends in a knockout.

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          • goh
            Banned
            • Aug 2003
            • 20755

            #470
            Re: EA Sports MMA Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

            I tried to find a 10-7 round.

            There's this quote from a yahoo article (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...htmetric042308)...

            FightMetric calls a round 10-8 when a fighter scores over 100 and has a score more than six times his opponent’s score. What do you do with a score 52 times the opponent’s? Theoretically, the system’s concentration on diminishing returns at the upper end would mean a requisite score 36 times your opponent’s to get a 10-7 round. But because 10-7 rounds are all but unheard-of and there has never been an official 10-6 round in a major fight that has gone to a decision, there are no rules in place beyond that.
            ...that makes it sound like there HAS been a 10-7 round at some point. 10-8 with a point loss maybe?

            Then there's this one from a Q&A with someone from the NJ Athletic Comisson (http://thegarv.com/Rapidfire-QA-with...-in-MMA.html):

            The difference between a 10-8 round (a round is to be scored as a 10-8 Round when a contestant overwhelmingly dominates by striking or grappling in a round) and a 10-7 round (a round is to be scored as a 10-7 Round when a contestant totally dominates by striking or grappling in a round) seems difficult to distinguish. Can you explain how to differentiate a 10-8 and 10-7 round?

            “If there is a 10-7 round, it likely means that the referee or ringside physician should have stopped the fight, but did not.”
            Which was exactly what happend with my demo experiment. Are there stoppages in the game at all? Certianly weren't in the demo.

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            • aholbert32
              (aka Alberto)
              • Jul 2002
              • 33106

              #471
              Re: EA Sports MMA Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

              Originally posted by goh
              I tried to find a 10-7 round.

              There's this quote from a yahoo article (http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slu...htmetric042308)...



              ...that makes it sound like there HAS been a 10-7 round at some point. 10-8 with a point loss maybe?

              Then there's this one from a Q&A with someone from the NJ Athletic Comisson (http://thegarv.com/Rapidfire-QA-with...-in-MMA.html):



              Which was exactly what happend with my demo experiment. Are there stoppages in the game at all? Certianly weren't in the demo.

              The fact that there are 10-7 rounds isnt the only problem. For example, just had a fight with Eddie Alverez and Aoki. The 3 judges scored the round 10-10, 10-7 Alverez and 10-9 Aoki. Now no one dominated that round. Alverez took Aoki down twice Aoki went for several subs and Alverez controlled the standup.

              How does that judging make sense?

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              • gmac0322
                MVP
                • Aug 2009
                • 1650

                #472
                Re: EA Sports MMA Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                Can someone please answer my question about if the game has sliders? thanks

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                • ManiacMatt1782
                  Who? Giroux!
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 3982

                  #473
                  Re: EA Sports MMA Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                  no sliders i thought i put that in last night but i was mistaken
                  www.twitch.tv/maniacmatt1228
                  www.youtube.com/maniacmatt1782

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                  • Gotmadskillzson
                    Live your life
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 23441

                    #474
                    Re: EA Sports MMA Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                    Just seen the commercial for the game, looked great for a commercial.

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                    • DJ
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2003
                      • 17756

                      #475
                      Re: EA Sports MMA Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                      Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                      Just seen the commercial for the game, looked great for a commercial.
                      Yeah, even my wife said that commercial was cool.
                      Currently Playing:
                      MLB The Show 25 (PS5)

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                      • gmac0322
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 1650

                        #476
                        Re: EA Sports MMA Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                        Originally posted by ManiacMatt1782
                        no sliders i thought i put that in last night but i was mistaken
                        ok thanks matt

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                        • ps3veron
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 1220

                          #477
                          Re: EA Sports MMA Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                          For those who tried the Single Player, hows the AI?

                          Do fights go the distance or are there Flash KOs galore?

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                          • Ardente
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 5

                            #478
                            Re: EA Sports MMA Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                            To the guy who brought up names.

                            If you enter it as a custom name....they still say it. like Silva...I made a W. Silva

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                            • sluggbugg
                              Pro
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 511

                              #479
                              Re: EA Sports MMA Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                              Can anyone let me know if you can have CPU vs. CPU fights? I love creating fighters and putting them in the ring/octagon against each other. This was not possible on the demo, at least if it was i didn't figure it out.

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                              • Phobia
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 11623

                                #480
                                Re: EA Sports MMA Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                                This was my 5th win. Second win after signing with a Brazilian league. This is also my photo game face of me and my career fighter.

                                He is built pure BJJ. Has horrible chin and gets stunned easy. But on the ground he can be dangerous in any position.

                                "The Athlete" Derek Hawkins
                                8-0
                                Welterweight
                                5'11"
                                170
                                Jiu jitsu

                                Ratings So far
                                Stand up - 62
                                Clinch - 63
                                Ground - 74
                                Submissions - 94
                                Health -63

                                Key Strong point
                                Take downs - 82
                                Grapple defense - 92
                                Passing 89
                                Leg submissions - 100
                                Arm submissions - 88
                                Neck submissions - 94
                                Heart - 91

                                Key weaknesses
                                Gut - 35
                                Chin - 37
                                ground strike power - 53
                                Punch power - 53/52 (each hand)
                                Leg kick power - 50 both legs

                                Special Moves so far
                                Heel Hook
                                Americana
                                Rear Naked Choke
                                Armbar
                                Darce Choke
                                Triangle Choke
                                Submission Chaining
                                Jump Guard takedown
                                Catch Kick
                                Round house head kick (should of never wasted a spot for it)

                                Right here in this video I was getting destroyed by this guy in the stand up. His punch range was better than mine and closing speed just out classed me. He lands a quick combo that sends me stumbling. I quickly shoot for the take down while he was pressing forward. I land and quickly pass to take the mount. He rolls and lets me take his back and I just quickly slapped on the choke.

                                My right eye was cut and bloody real bad from the heavy exchanges I was falling short on. Got real lucky I landed the take down and just out classed the guy on the bottom. I have yet to face a high level BJJ guy like myself yet though.

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                                Last edited by Phobia; 10-17-2010, 01:40 PM.

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