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  • Phobia
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jan 2008
    • 11623

    #511
    Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

    Originally posted by ManiacMatt1782
    i think all 3 of us said oh **** in unison when that happened. I have had a one shot KO before, as in not off of a combo, that was my first literal 1st punch of the fight ko, and the sick part is, it didnt even feel cheap. we toucheched gloves quik came out with a overhand but i was going for the super man and landed 1st. it looked like a real KO. I cant wait to have some more fight cards, watching some of the fight was as fun as playing them, it gave me the old nostalgia of being at the corner store with the coin op street fighter and mortal kombat games, watching your opponent fight before you came in and got your turn.

    edit: yes I do now feel old talking about mortal kombat and street fighter coin op machines
    I know huh. It was so much fun. It was like you said about the old coin op experience of watching and waiting for you to get on the sticks.

    The FUN the game offers is flat out excellent. I was hoping it would just be fun, but it FAR surpassed my expectations. Truly a dark horse for my game of the year. This will be EA MMA's year that UFC 2009 had.

    Originally posted by DaveDQ
    You guys are going to make me go to the midnight release of this.
    LOL Dave you will love it

    Originally posted by CaptainZombie
    Phobia, which system are you playing this on and does the gameplay feel fluid?

    Any details on the basis of the career mode that you can share?
    Capt, it is extremely fluid. The striking looks great, the controls are tightened up from the demo, sways and steps are easier, the movement speed is slightly reduced, stamina feels wonderful, submissions are a blast against a human. Just a whole lot of fun

    I am on 360

    The career is done pretty good from what I have experienced so far. First you create your fighter. He has all the moves you would expect most fighters to have. Then you pick a minor league to join between two options. Then you fight your way up through that league. Once you make enough money you get a option to travel and go train with certain camps. This is where the building of your fighter comes in. Because each camp offers only certain moves. You have 16 slots for special moves so you must choose wisely to your fighters style.

    Now these camps not only offer you certain moves(which you must earn). But each camp also focuses on certain fight styles. So there is boxing, MT, Kick boxing, BJJ, JUDO, etc. Now these camps when you train your fighter to increase stats only offer train in certain areas depending on their focus.

    So a Boxing school might help you learn advanced boxing combos, or some small ground work, MAYBE a submission here or there. But a boxing school will be very limited to anything outside of its focus. So if you want to focus on improving your kicks, heading to a BJJ camp is not going to do much for you. If they even offer any training for it at all. Instead you would want to spend the time and money at a kick boxing camp.

    So before each fight you have 8 weeks of training. You pick your travel plans and then you spend 8 weeks training with that camp. After 8 weeks it is fight time. Then you do it again after each fight, pick a travel and camp, then 8 weeks of training.

    Once you work your way up the ladder of each league and you attain the belt. You get offers to other high leagues such as the Brazil league or japan league with its own set of rules. Your goal is to earn enough rep to make it to the pro strikeforce league.

    Along the way you are learning new moves and filling out your 16 special moves slots.

    I am currently 11-1 and have filled out 10 slots of moves. Mainly stuck with my strengths. I created a BJJ base fighter and his submissions came in at the high 80s. With his chin and gut in the low 30s. So he can only eat a punch or two before possibly being rocked.

    So I started out picking only BJJ camps so i could attain BJJ moves and submissions like the triangle, submission transitions, arm bar, etc. Once I got my moves acquired that I wanted for my main focus of BJJ. I have been spending the last few camps trying to improve my poor striking, poor chin, and poor heart. But since my guy is not a boxing or kick boxing focus guy he has a LOOOONG way to go before being decent or could stand toe to toe with a generalist or striker.

    I LOVE the system so far. It seems fair and reminds me of APF in the sense you have to pick where you will be strong at and where you will be weak at. Are you could even be middle of the road everywhere. You place the moves you want for your style of fighter and you go through the career.

    I also love the simulate part of training. For guys who dislike the training mini games. Once you do a training mini game you get a letter grade(A, B, C D, F). Then if you want to continue training that area but don't want to do it your self. You can simulate the training and it will give you the points you earned on your last training sessions.

    So for me when I wanted to work on striking for 5 or 6 of the 8 weeks. I would pick a training session that worked on a area I wanted. Like left hand power, stamina, and chin. Then I would go through the mini game and get a letter grade of a A. Then I would simulate it for 3 or 4 more times and quickly knock out the training and build on a area I wanted to focus on real quick.

    It makes getting back to the fighting much quicker and is a breeze of a system to use once you know what you are doing.
    Last edited by Phobia; 10-18-2010, 01:45 PM.

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    • DJ
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2003
      • 17756

      #512
      Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

      ^Career mode sounds 100% better than UFC's.
      Currently Playing:
      MLB The Show 25 (PS5)

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      • Lakers 24 7
        Pro
        • Nov 2006
        • 725

        #513
        Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

        Guess Imma have to wait for a patch and I was really looking forward to having this game. When EA said that the demo was an early build and much has changed since then I assumed such a glaring error as the judging would have been corrected, but I guess not. There's no sense in being in 3 or 5 round wars just to have the judges score that badly or award the win to the wrong fighter, not because that's the way the judges saw the fight, but because the system is just glitched.

        That's just too big of an aspect of the game to let slide, so hopefully they address this soon so I can jump in.

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        • CaptainZombie
          Brains
          • Jul 2003
          • 37851

          #514
          Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

          Thanks Phobia, I appreciate your detailed review of the career mode. I need to play the demo again tonight.


          Originally posted by Phobia
          Capt, it is extremely fluid. The striking looks great, the controls are tightened up from the demo, sways and steps are easier, the movement speed is slightly reduced, stamina feels wonderful, submissions are a blast against a human. Just a whole lot of fun

          I am on 360

          The career is done pretty good from what I have experienced so far. First you create your fighter. He has all the moves you would expect most fighters to have. Then you pick a minor league to join between two options. Then you fight your way up through that league. Once you make enough money you get a option to travel and go train with certain camps. This is where the building of your fighter comes in. Because each camp offers only certain moves. You have 16 slots for special moves so you must choose wisely to your fighters style.

          Now these camps not only offer you certain moves(which you must earn). But each camp also focuses on certain fight styles. So there is boxing, MT, Kick boxing, BJJ, JUDO, etc. Now these camps when you train your fighter to increase stats only offer train in certain areas depending on their focus.

          So a Boxing school might help you learn advanced boxing combos, or some small ground work, MAYBE a submission here or there. But a boxing school will be very limited to anything outside of its focus. So if you want to focus on improving your kicks, heading to a BJJ camp is not going to do much for you. If they even offer any training for it at all. Instead you would want to spend the time and money at a kick boxing camp.

          So before each fight you have 8 weeks of training. You pick your travel plans and then you spend 8 weeks training with that camp. After 8 weeks it is fight time. Then you do it again after each fight, pick a travel and camp, then 8 weeks of training.

          Once you work your way up the ladder of each league and you attain the belt. You get offers to other high leagues such as the Brazil league or japan league with its own set of rules. Your goal is to earn enough rep to make it to the pro strikeforce league.

          Along the way you are learning new moves and filling out your 16 special moves slots.

          I am currently 11-1 and have filled out 10 slots of moves. Mainly stuck with my strengths. I created a BJJ base fighter and his submissions came in at the high 80s. With his chin and gut in the low 30s. So he can only eat a punch or two before possibly being rocked.

          So I started out picking only BJJ camps so i could attain BJJ moves and submissions like the triangle, submission transitions, arm bar, etc. Once I got my moves acquired that I wanted for my main focus of BJJ. I have been spending the last few camps trying to improve my poor striking, poor chin, and poor heart. But since my guy is not a boxing or kick boxing focus guy he has a LOOOONG way to go before being decent or could stand toe to toe with a generalist or striker.

          I LOVE the system so far. It seems fair and reminds me of APF in the sense you have to pick where you will be strong at and where you will be weak at. Are you could even be middle of the road everywhere. You place the moves you want for your style of fighter and you go through the career.

          I also love the simulate part of training. For guys who dislike the training mini games. Once you do a training mini game you get a letter grade(A, B, C D, F). Then if you want to continue training that area but don't want to do it your self. You can simulate the training and it will give you the points you earned on your last training sessions.

          So for me when I wanted to work on striking for 5 or 6 of the 8 weeks. I would pick a training session that worked on a area I wanted. Like left hand power, stamina, and chin. Then I would go through the mini game and get a letter grade of a A. Then I would simulate it for 3 or 4 more times and quickly knock out the training and build on a area I wanted to focus on real quick.

          It makes getting back to the fighting much quicker and is a breeze of a system to use once you know what you are doing.
          HDMovie Room

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          • Phobia
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2008
            • 11623

            #515
            Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

            Originally posted by Lakers 24/7
            Guess Imma have to wait for a patch and I was really looking forward to having this game. When EA said that the demo was an early build and much has changed since then I assumed such a glaring error as the judging would have been corrected, but I guess not. There's no sense in being in 3 or 5 round wars just to have the judges score that badly or award the win to the wrong fighter, not because that's the way the judges saw the fight, but because the system is just glitched.

            That's just too big of an aspect of the game to let slide, so hopefully they address this soon so I can jump in.
            Laker it is a issue but it is not as dramatic as you are making it. It can show some funky areas but from my findings most of the time the correct fighter wins. It is more of less the scoring is off. There should be way more 10/9s and never any 10/7s. But the correct fighter is still normally getting the scores in their favor. It is just they should of never included a 10/7 score and should of left the 10/8s to be very rare.

            With that said, it is one of the only glaring areas that needs a patch. With that said, I see zero reason for it not getting patched.

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            • aholbert32
              (aka Alberto)
              • Jul 2002
              • 33106

              #516
              Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

              Originally posted by Phobia
              Laker it is a issue but it is not as dramatic as you are making it. It can show some funky areas but from my findings most of the time the correct fighter wins. It is more of less the scoring is off. There should be way more 10/9s and never any 10/7s. But the correct fighter is still normally getting the scores in their favor. It is just they should of never included a 10/7 score and should of left the 10/8s to be very rare.

              With that said, it is one of the only glaring areas that needs a patch. With that said, I see zero reason for it not getting patched.
              I disagree. It is that dramatic. I've had 2 fights that i lost because of 10-7 rounds and it wasnt because I was getting dominated in that fight. In both fights I won the 1st and 3rd rounds 10-9 (One judge had round 1 a draw) and lost the second 10-7. The round should have been a 10-9, 10-8 at most. I lost the fight because of that judging.

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              • Phobia
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jan 2008
                • 11623

                #517
                Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                Originally posted by aholbert32
                I disagree. It is that dramatic. I've had 2 fights that i lost because of 10-7 rounds and it wasnt because I was getting dominated in that fight. In both fights I won the 1st and 3rd rounds 10-9 (One judge had round 1 a draw) and lost the second 10-7. The round should have been a 10-9, 10-8 at most. I lost the fight because of that judging.
                Yea but my point is out of how many fights. I have over somewhere around 30 to 40 fights so far with the game and have yet to have the judging screw me.

                So while it sucks to have it come out against you do to the poor judging. I see it as a area that needs a patch for sure. But don't think it takes away from the game to the degree that is being said. Once every now and then it might effect the game. But not to the degree of not buying the game in my opinion.

                I think it is pretty obvious it will be patched though. With EA's track record about patches and the lack of other issues then I can see the time spent repairing this issue.

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                • Jukeman
                  Showtime
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 10955

                  #518
                  Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                  Some info on career mode

                  Part 1 of 4

                  Spoiler

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                  • DaveDQ
                    13
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 7664

                    #519
                    Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                    I know people sometimes don't care, but EA did a great job with that training intro. It's tough to coordinate eye and hand movement to the vocals.
                    Being kind, one to another, never disappoints.

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                    • Phobia
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 11623

                      #520
                      Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                      Fighting my first strike force match. Highlights soon to follow.

                      Edit: Loading highlights to EA website is down. Sucks cause I got a beast combo I wanted to put up. My first TKO with my weak punching career fighter. Adding the spinning back fist paid off
                      Last edited by Phobia; 10-18-2010, 07:40 PM.

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                      • SgtDillznick
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 108

                        #521
                        Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                        A question for you guys with the game:

                        Does denying a takedown attempt always end with either a knee to the face or sprawl and brawl?

                        Have you ever seen the defender just stuff the takedown attempt and then go back to standing?

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                        • aholbert32
                          (aka Alberto)
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 33106

                          #522
                          Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                          Originally posted by SgtDillznick
                          A question for you guys with the game:

                          Does denying a takedown attempt always end with either a knee to the face or sprawl and brawl?

                          Have you ever seen the defender just stuff the takedown attempt and then go back to standing?
                          Yes, some do end with them standing.

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                          • ManiacMatt1782
                            Who? Giroux!
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 3982

                            #523
                            Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                            yeah you can stuff without the knee in the full game
                            www.twitch.tv/maniacmatt1228
                            www.youtube.com/maniacmatt1782

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                            • Lakers 24 7
                              Pro
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 725

                              #524
                              Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                              Originally posted by Phobia
                              Laker it is a issue but it is not as dramatic as you are making it. It can show some funky areas but from my findings most of the time the correct fighter wins. It is more of less the scoring is off. There should be way more 10/9s and never any 10/7s. But the correct fighter is still normally getting the scores in their favor. It is just they should of never included a 10/7 score and should of left the 10/8s to be very rare.

                              With that said, it is one of the only glaring areas that needs a patch. With that said, I see zero reason for it not getting patched.
                              Most of the time? I don't think most of the time world work in Madden or NBA 2k, so it shouldn't fly here either. You have to award the right person or team with the win every time, that's fundamental.

                              I understand some judges looking for different things, scoring differently, but how they score, regardless of their criteria seems to be pretty flawed.

                              Like I've said before if you drop a round 10-7 in what was in reality a close fight then you've basically been screwed. It's going to be damn hard to make up for any bogus 10-7 rounds. With that said any fight in which a 10-7 is given the judging in essence was incorrect. If they're giving out 10-7's I can assume there are even more 10-8's as well, which should be extremely rare.

                              It definitely should be patched, I agree, so I'll be keeping my eye on this and will certainly grab it the second they fix this issue.
                              Last edited by Lakers 24 7; 10-19-2010, 01:19 AM.

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                              • rocket21
                                Rookie
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 453

                                #525
                                Re: EA Sports MMA Demo Available, Post Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                                I've only been able to play this long enough to get in a few matches, but I'm really liking it. The stand-up moves are well implemented, as are the takedowns. The takedowns are really fun, too.

                                This game is quite a bit better than the one put out by THQ, and I NEVER would have thought I'd be saying that 6 months ago. EA really put some work into this one, and so far I highly recommend it based on gameplay alone.

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