How to fix the physical play around the perimeter?

[RayAllen20]

First off, I'd like to say I love this game, and I'm not trying to ask the devs to fix it or anything like that. I'm not announcing something is broken either. I just want to ask anyone if someone has found a slider fix for this. You may like this aspect of the game but it kind of bothers me.

I'm not good at isomotion but even with practice, and getting moves down I can't go by anybody really. My only hope of scoring seems to be mostly plays. Everytime I dribble, I get bumped by the defender. I play basketball, and while this happens a good amount. Players like Rondo, and Paul rarely get bumped like that, because they are so good at going by other defenders.

Now, does any one know any tips, or slider changes that will lower the physicality around the perimeter? I already put on ball defense at 0 for the CPU, but still not working too good. Yet, the CPU can easily go by me at 50.



Also.....slightly off topic...but does anybody have success with a small guard like Rondo? Rondo can never finish for me, while in real life he finishes very well. The game doesn't use his creative lay-ups that prevent him from getting blocked (plus I can't pull the Rondo move off). Do you think I should raise his lay-up rating to very high so he can finish a lot better even with contact?

[Phreezy P]

Re: How to fix the physical play around the perimeter?

Do cutting moves with the shot stick when inbounding to get away from the defense, then sprint to halfcourt. Utilize spins and behind back dribble alot. Trust me, go into freestyle and skip to isomoton.

And second, use up and unders to get around defense on shots, and call pick and rolls and go to the basket and use eurostep.

[tcnumba10]

Re: How to fix the physical play around the perimeter?

I just have to say the game is awesome now that I lowered DRIVING CONTACT SHOT FREQUENCY and INSIDE CONTACT SHOT FREQUENCY from 100 to 50.

I don't know what the logic is behind this but it seems that the overall feel of the game is more realistic and better with those two sliders at 50. It's a little bit easier to pass your man on D which is realistic (less bumping on the perimeter) but there is now also really good Defensive Rotation now so when you pass your defender the Help D for the opposing team is right there so there is no more easy Dunks once you pass your man!

It's been debated but I truly believe that the 3rd Roster update Inverted these two Game Sliders so lowering it to 50 does not necessarily mean that you will get less contact inside the paint...

[keshunleon]

Re: How to fix the physical play around the perimeter?

[quote=tcnumba10;2041778063]I just have to say the game is awesome now that I lowered DRIVING CONTACT SHOT FREQUENCY and INSIDE CONTACT SHOT FREQUENCY from 100 to 50.

I did the same and it completely changed the game for me!!!

It is more realistic because good defenders get more of the bumps and bigger slower players don't bump you as much when they are beat.

I understand what 2K was thinking with all the bumping but it's not realistic at all without a foul being called.
I also bumped up the fouls to keep it more realistic too because I get more moving screens and running through screens foul called.

[Jesus]

Re: How to fix the physical play around the perimeter?

Driving Shot Contact Frequency is actually related to how often you get sucked into contact animations when driving to the goal for a layup or dunk IINM.

[ParisB]

Re: How to fix the physical play around the perimeter?

Correct. I leave those at 50. I'm not digging the "simulation" settings. It just results in more suction animations to prevent things from happening.

It's so annoying seeing Derek Rose not be able to go right by Eric Dampier because he gets sucked into the kick back bump animation over and over....I can't even curl around screens effectively because of this.

I also turned down on-ball defense to 25. It helped a lot. The game feels more "free".

[coolcras7]

Re: How to fix the physical play around the perimeter?

Rondo is a beast if you use him correctly, you don't need to lower anything to get to the hole you just need enough separation to pull of moves a simple cross over while driving will allow you to get to the basket this game is all about getting separation, also release the turbo button Rondo is has an amazing lay-up package use it, he also gets fouled alot and alot of any one, had my best game with him to day against the Rockets.

[threes_co]

Re: How to fix the physical play around the perimeter?

Just use isomotion and create separation.

[jrose57]

Re: How to fix the physical play around the perimeter?

FIX your SKILL, not tryin to be cocky or start anything, but if you are using d rose let say trying to use him to get by dampier right? just back off, until theres enough space to make a move, then just suddenely turn left to right or right to left i tell you he can't follow you, then just shoot it or drive and kick it out but i find kick out very dangerous because the cpu is amazing at stealing in passing lanes so ij ust shoot it all the time

[nak10]

Re: How to fix the physical play around the perimeter?

i kill wit rondo online just use iso motion and do not even touch the turbo botton... it works. and use the hesitation dribble and size up moves to keep defenders off balance... Rondos really amazing in the game im undefeated with the celts online

[ParisB]

Re: How to fix the physical play around the perimeter?

FIX your SKILL, not tryin to be cocky or start anything, but if you are using d rose let say trying to use him to get by dampier right? just back off, until theres enough space to make a move, then just suddenely turn left to right or right to left i tell you he can't follow you, then just shoot it or drive and kick it out but i find kick out very dangerous because the cpu is amazing at stealing in passing lanes so ij ust shoot it all the time

I use it, man. I'm tired of the constant "fix your skill" posts. The game isn't perfect, and this is one of it's shortcomings.

The point is, bodying up and contact during drives is part of the NBA, but you can't do this well in 2k11 because of the suction animations (in particular, that bump back thing) just kill momentum. I shouldn't have to go around Dampier by creating 10 feet of space and driving by "away" from him. Rose or Rondo should be able to go right by his waist from a standstill and even make contact with the body as they drive by.

[cj54]

Re: How to fix the physical play around the perimeter?

For the people who lowered the contact, do you feel like its too easy to get in the paint and dunk?

[BegBy]

Re: How to fix the physical play around the perimeter?

Love the 'fix your skill' posts.

I just shut Paul Pierce down with Marc Gasol. He ran by me at half court so, by default he got sucked into me, naturally. I just held in L2 (PS3) and he was completely useless. Three consecutive animations where he ran around with me painted on him, till he ended up near the paint and the shot clock went down to 5, and he passed. Marc Gasol.

Bravo Marc Gasol, bravo.

I have a thread on this already, and it's discussed at length. Sadly there are people who like it, and what's worse is they advocate it's validity and necessity.

One more shout out to Marc Gasol for shutting down Paul Pierce, from half court.

[threes_co]

Re: How to fix the physical play around the perimeter?

Love the 'fix your skill' posts.

I just shut Paul Pierce down with Marc Gasol. He ran by me at half court so, by default he got sucked into me, naturally. I just held in L2 (PS3) and he was completely useless. Three consecutive animations where he ran around with me painted on him, till he ended up near the paint and the shot clock went down to 5, and he passed. Marc Gasol.

Bravo Marc Gasol, bravo.

I have a thread on this already, and it's discussed at length. Sadly there are people who like it, and what's worse is they advocate it's validity and necessity.

One more shout out to Marc Gasol for shutting down Paul Pierce, from half court.

What difficulty were you playing on?

[dipset2050]

Re: How to fix the physical play around the perimeter?

I think the problem is that people are looking for the Isomotion Setup dribbles to simple "shake" the defender from them when that's not the purpose of tha setup dribble.

The purpose is to gather yourself to see the floor and then setup your opponent to go one way and then you go the other way.

Doesn't make sense until I tell you like this......

Take DRose and basically any other person in this game.

Iso Rose.

If it's a big (or you have a big disadvantage) you would in a real life circumstance pull the ball back with the "Back" setup dribble to create space. If the Big steps up then you simply go right by him. If he lays off, take the jumper. But if you just HAVE to beat him then you go to step 2.

After you create the space (or sometimes just go right to this if you know the defense is coming fast) via step one, choose either the "Left" or "Right" setup dribbles and then during the animation, hold the Left analog in the direction you DO NOT intend to go to get the defenders weight going that way (the worse the defender, the better the next part will work) and then as you see your player explode that way (DRose), WITHOUT TURBO, move the Left analog in the direction you intended to go in the first place and then prepare to either dunk, layup, pass or whatever.

This works on EVERY DIFFICULTY. It also works in real life. You just need to have the defensive mismatch to exploit it.

Once you learn this - it's almost TOO easy.