So is EAC with the NHL series. And doing it better, IMO. I've yet to play a Madden game on these consoles without wondering about why the physics of the game are so out of whack. Madden is a very fun football game, I just wouldn't call it overly realistic. If Tiburon could achieve the same level of gameplay in Elite, I wouldn't be disappointed. I just don't see how they'll be able to do so for the release of Live/Elite 12, which is why I will never understand why EA would pull this game from EAC at this point in time, when they're more familiar with the RTP in Elite than anyone else. There's got to be more to this story.