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  • MrMVP91
    Rookie
    • Mar 2010
    • 169

    #46
    Re: FIFA Soccer 11 Patch Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

    lol how the heck did cpu teams get 14-30 shots vs. you? that has never happened to me and i play every game on legendary (i played with every team from cska moscow to aston villa to liverpool to real madrid - never happened).

    yes there were times when defenders would look like their actions are scripted rather than actually having them do what you need them to do, but that still happened to me at times after the patch last night.

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    • jb12780
      Hall of Fame
      • Oct 2008
      • 10665

      #47
      Re: FIFA Soccer 11 Patch Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

      Originally posted by SpHSpH
      Did I miss a squad update? I hooked up to the internet yesterday and, when I launched FIFA11, it did a download event ... but it did not tell me if it was one thing (patch) or two things (squad + patch). Also ... I did many of the stadium renamings in October ... and I think a new squad file would overwrite that ... (and that would make me sad) ... is there a way to know if I got *all* of the internet-related information that was available yesterday?
      There really is no way to tell if there is a new squad update since EA does not date them.

      I will check to see if downloading the new squads wipes out the stadiums. The only league I have done is the EPL, so I dont mind doing them again.
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      • Matt10
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        • Apr 2006
        • 16664

        #48
        Re: FIFA Soccer 11 Patch Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

        Originally posted by MrMVP91
        lol how the heck did cpu teams get 14-30 shots vs. you? that has never happened to me and i play every game on legendary (i played with every team from cska moscow to aston villa to liverpool to real madrid - never happened).

        yes there were times when defenders would look like their actions are scripted rather than actually having them do what you need them to do, but that still happened to me at times after the patch last night.
        Legendary? Yes, shots were being delivered at will. You should read more posts through all the boards before assuming just because you are better at the sticks, doesn't mean that it's not happening to 80% of everyone. I haven't played more than 5 games on legendary yet post patch. I am working my way back to it so I can adjust from PES feel. Once I'm there, I'll seek guidance and develop a theory on that. For now, I'm playing world class.

        I don't see why there is such a debate, it baffles me that others aren't seeing the same improvements. While slight, they are there. Does anyone know how to unpatch? I might make a video so I could put this 'placebo' effect to rest.
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        • therizing02
          MVP
          • Apr 2003
          • 4176

          #49
          Re: FIFA Soccer 11 Patch Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

          Are there more fouls?

          Are Career Mode transfers and progression fixed?

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          • instantpop
            Rookie
            • Aug 2009
            • 374

            #50
            Re: FIFA Soccer 11 Patch Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

            Well, I decided to play a few more games today just to get a better feel if anything has changed. The game does feel different in a few areas. I started an FA Cup Tournament with Chelsea just to get a good variety of opposition and was pleasantly surprised with how varied the play was.

            Good Things:
            Most notably in my opinion are what seem to be much smarter runs by your teammates, at least if you're playing as a top level team.

            You teammate's defensive AI seems to have improved. No more need for the constant switching of players and having to do everything yourself. Far fewer 'dumb' goals.

            Pressure has definitely been reduced. They say they haven't changed anything in the engine, but keep saying they've tweaked how we 'see' things, whatever that means. All I know is that on World Class I actually have time on the ball and am finding more space in the middle. It helps make the pitch feel bigger and less like I have to hold down R2 and fly down the wings the whole time. Variety in play is there - from the CPU as well. Which brings me to...

            The CPU offensive attack seems to have improved. Still not on par with what PES does in this department, but I can't predict the player paths like I could before. I long for more build-up in CPU play, but it's getting better. It's also dependent on what kind of team you play against. Again, this could be one of those things EA changed how we 'see' since I'm seeing a lot more variety in CPU play than I did pre-patch.

            Bad Things
            Tackling is still too easy on World Class. I'd say overall in general, but World Class is where I've been playing since the patch.

            Fouls are still too few and far between. I've noticed more depending on what referee is working the match. Maybe this is another one of those stats EA changed how we 'see.' Who knows.

            Still not enough offensive build up by the CPU. The variety is getting better, but seeing the CPU reset its offense would go a long way. Some of this could be attributed to me playing with Chelsea - as they prefer to absorb the attack and then tackle their way out of it (tactics setting for pressure is at 35).

            I guess time will tell if I continue to enjoy the game in its current state. Neither game is perfect this year, but both games have these little nuggets that will keep me coming back to each to enjoy. It is a little sad that it's only early November and I'm already looking forward to improvements for 2012.

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            • misterbroom12
              Rookie
              • Jul 2010
              • 291

              #51
              I want to be able to sell my f***ing players in career mode!!!!!! Also, does anyone have a problem with outside backs always floating inside to mark strikers that are 5 yards in front of the CBs? I always have to control them and move them to their proper position and it is annoying.

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              • striper_43
                Rookie
                • Jun 2010
                • 98

                #52
                Re: FIFA Soccer 11 Patch Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                Originally posted by misterbroom12
                I want to be able to sell my f***ing players in career mode!!!!!! Also, does anyone have a problem with outside backs always floating inside to mark strikers that are 5 yards in front of the CBs? I always have to control them and move them to their proper position and it is annoying.
                Yes! Those outside backs always want to go to the middle and mark attackers heading straight towards the centre back.

                The strikers on your team always head to the corner even when the wing player is sprinting towards the same spot!

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                • Dazraz
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 794

                  #53
                  Re: FIFA Soccer 11 Patch Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                  Originally posted by Matt10
                  Legendary? Yes, shots were being delivered at will. You should read more posts through all the boards before assuming just because you are better at the sticks, doesn't mean that it's not happening to 80% of everyone. I haven't played more than 5 games on legendary yet post patch. I am working my way back to it so I can adjust from PES feel. Once I'm there, I'll seek guidance and develop a theory on that. For now, I'm playing world class.

                  I don't see why there is such a debate, it baffles me that others aren't seeing the same improvements. While slight, they are there. Does anyone know how to unpatch? I might make a video so I could put this 'placebo' effect to rest.
                  If you are on the PS3 then game updates can be removed from the PS3 main hub. Go to game files & find the relevant file for the FIFA patch & delete it. That simple. When you next load FIFA up it will prompt you to download the latest patch. Just select cancel & you can play the game in it's pre-patch form.

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                  • LucianoJJ
                    Pro
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 593

                    #54
                    Re: FIFA Soccer 11 Patch Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                    Tackling is still lopsided in favor of the human. I've seen more runs by the CB. I saw a backward pass by the CPU on offense. It's too early to tell.

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                    • Jd_Seven
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 481

                      #55
                      Re: FIFA Soccer 11 Patch Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                      Does anyone have any issues with player ratings in CM mode?

                      I play 15 min on all manual legendary. I play with Man U.

                      Ill score twice with a midfielder and his rating will be a 7.0 max!!!

                      I never ever get more than an 8 with anyone in the midfield or any forwards. I have gotten decent ratings for backs but never ever anywhere else. It is so annoying.

                      Even if a striker scores 2 or more goals he never gets man of the match or anything. Ill have a 4-3 thriller of a game and everyone will be around the 6.0 mark-same as even if i win 1-0.

                      I have tried it on WC but the same thing. Even on 10 min. Is there something I am missing or is this a regular thing for everyone on FIFA 11?

                      My striker could lead the league in goals but still be rated under 7.0 while other strikers who have half as many sit midway through an 8.

                      Anybody know how to resolve this, or give some feedback? Thanks
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                      • MrMVP91
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 169

                        #56
                        Re: FIFA Soccer 11 Patch Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                        player ratings have been terrible ever since they were put into the fifa series. not only are they horrible for your team, but then when you check around the league, cpu players have all ratings in the 8s and high 7s while you'll be lucky to have 1 player with a 7 rating.


                        by the way, did they take out the team of the season? i finished a season with real madrid and didn't see any team of the season announcement. weird. what's the point of the player ratings then lol.

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                        • SpHSpH
                          Pro
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 795

                          #57
                          Re: FIFA Soccer 11 Patch Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                          I wish someone (the FIFA community) could figure out the algorithm that is used to determine the match ratings. Does it have anything to do with total passes? pass completion percentage? positioning? shots on target? goals scored? tackles? not getting called for fouls? etc.

                          I have also noticed that the CPU players (when playing against me) usually have similar player ratings to my players (between 6.0 and 7.0). It must be that, when the other matches in the league are simmed "behind the scenes", the players all get generally higher player ratings. This always puts my players at a disadvantage - because I never sim any of my games.

                          The match rating this is sort of important because some of the VP accomplishments are tied to match ratings and man-of-the-match stuff ... and I would like to know more about how this works - so that I can make a better effort at getting those accomplishments for my VP.
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                          • misterbroom12
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 291

                            #58
                            I think the ratings are not wrong as much as they don't reflect how a user controls his team properly. If you recall from the first BAP mode a year or two ago (and maybe still now, I haven't played it yet) but a lot of your rating is tied to positioning and marking, successful tackles, dribbles, passes, all of that. So when a user plays and tries to go one on one at a defender in the attacking third, we all know that it isn't a huge deal and has great benefits and not so bad negatives, the game however just sees it as an unsuccessful dribble and the players rating for the game drops. The same goes with defending, if you use your CB to track a ST running to the corner, the game sees you as out of position and lowers your rating. In the grand scheme of things, it is just that there is no situational stat tracking that goes into the rating. For us if a player scores twice and only gave the ball away a handful of times all in the attacking third of the pitch they played a great game but the game takes a giveaway in the attacking third as just as bad as if it is in the defending third right in front of goal. Hard for them to perfect but it has improved since it was first introduced. Also, for VP to get better ratings you almost have to just play to exactly what the game says you should do which is not nearly as fun as doing as you please.

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                            • JRod
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 3266

                              #59
                              Re: FIFA Soccer 11 Patch Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                              The increase the speed on passes. I've been playing with pass assist on, because the passes were so slow you couldn't really do anything but play ping or the long ball.

                              Tackling seems the same.

                              Runs seem improved.

                              I've noticed so little about the CPU that if there's a change it's not really that big of a deal.

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                              • Jd_Seven
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2005
                                • 481

                                #60
                                Re: FIFA Soccer 11 Patch Available, Post Impressions Here (PS3, 360)

                                Originally posted by SpHSpH
                                I wish someone (the FIFA community) could figure out the algorithm that is used to determine the match ratings. Does it have anything to do with total passes? pass completion percentage? positioning? shots on target? goals scored? tackles? not getting called for fouls? etc.

                                I have also noticed that the CPU players (when playing against me) usually have similar player ratings to my players (between 6.0 and 7.0). It must be that, when the other matches in the league are simmed "behind the scenes", the players all get generally higher player ratings. This always puts my players at a disadvantage - because I never sim any of my games.

                                The match rating this is sort of important because some of the VP accomplishments are tied to match ratings and man-of-the-match stuff ... and I would like to know more about how this works - so that I can make a better effort at getting those accomplishments for my VP.
                                I still think the match rating is bugged for the user. I can understand if you have a bad game to get bad ratings, and vice verse. Does match ratings not refelect how a player grows? I mean if a player is constantly getting just average ratings he wouldn't grow as much would he? This is the biggest thing I am worried about. (I don't sim any games during my MM either) If I win 2-0 against a top tier ranked team I want my guys to get high ratings. I have seen a keeper make 10 saves in a game and keep a clean sheet and have a rating of 6.6 or something. Does a keeper need to make 100 saves and score a goal to get a decent rating EA?

                                I thought maybe it was tied into the time of halves or skill difficulty. Anyone have any idea on how the match ratings actually work?

                                I have messaged community managers on the EA forums and on Twitter but still no response on this. I know I am not the only one who sees this as an issue.
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