Fight Night Champion: To the Penitentiary and Beyond

[Complex]

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Ahhhh, one of my ideas was listened to.

[bbarr43]

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I'm not thrilled with this direction, and think it's a knock on the sport as a whole. Just another irresponsible move on EA, in my opinion (like exclusive rights to the NFL) to regress and not promote positive progress in the sports community. Is this what we can expect to see with future sports gaming? Go ahead and put Tyson's ear biting in too then. Some things are better left alone. It'll be the day I ever purchase a Madden or NBA game with the F-Bomb.. something I can't let my innocent kids' eyes see. But maybe that's just me. NBA2k11 is at the top of the charts without this stuff. To me, it's more unnecessary gimmicks that takes quality time away from core aspects. I'm sure the F-bomb is on every NFL game field on Sunday.. so I guess if I hear it in Madden it's going to make it more authentic? Guess it will have more market appeal? What is this world coming to? Guess we're not too far off from seeing Super Mario and Sonic flip off the customers! Yeah, I'm just one of the good old boys voicing his opinion.

[TheCreep]

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I'm not thrilled with this direction, and think it's a knock on the sport as a whole. Just another irresponsible move on EA, in my opinion (like exclusive rights to the NFL) to regress and not promote positive progress in the sports community. Is this what we can expect to see with future sports gaming? Go ahead and put Tyson's ear biting in too then. Some things are better left alone. It'll be the day I ever purchase a Madden or NBA game with the F-Bomb.. something I can't let my innocent kids' eyes see. But maybe that's just me. NBA2k11 is at the top of the charts without this stuff. To me, it's more unnecessary gimmicks that takes quality time away from core aspects. I'm sure the F-bomb is on every NFL game field on Sunday.. so I guess if I hear it in Madden it's going to make it more authentic? Guess it will have more market appeal? What is this world coming to? Guess we're not too far off from seeing Super Mario and Sonic flip off the customers! Yeah, I'm just one of the good old boys voicing his opinion.

I have a similar outlook I suppose. I'm not rallying against the story mode as you seem to be, but I honestly have absolutely no interest in it at all. Its great that they're adding this mode for people who enjoy this type of thing though.

I can see it going the way of superstar mode in Madden. Its going to be an extra mode that pretty much doesn't exist on MY menu screen. I'm a regular ole franchise/legacy guy lol.

[bbarr43]

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To be honest, I don't have an interest in it either. I'm already detracted from the mode. It already seems too narrow a perspective that I have to start in prison. I have a lot more interest in managerial aspects though. Correct rankings and fully customized ladders, more editing power, etc.

I would love to see fighters interact pre and post game. But say more well thought out stuff, say like a Legend Career mode where Ali is giving one of his canned historic poems about how the fighter is slow and ugly. Rhyme and rhetoric being his signature style, fight predictions, etc. Bring in historical significance and fighters characterized by their personality. Don't understand how mature themes need to come in here. These EA gimmicks always seem to be a "selling" focus to detract from what the core game will not get done right. (How many years do we gotta go to get the out route out of bounds fixed in Madden?)

The game's long lasting appeal for me usually ends with how well it plays online anyway. But I can say that's one reason I don't ever get a mic, cause I get tired of the constant foul language on the other end. Ah, but that's just me.... let's just continue to promote the decay of western society...

[grunt]

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The Don King boxing had a story mode. I enjoyed the story.

[bbarr43]

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Yeah, I played it and liked some of the concepts. I just have a different view on focusing on the good core aspects of boxing and sports gaming in general. Wasn't boxing historically a civilized man's fight? Yes, I still believe in values and think it's unnecessary.

I have a good notion I'm the unpopular minority here, but maybe they need to rethink Career Mode into a Create Your Own Adventure scheme.. Start from: a) Troubled Street Kid, b) Average Athletic Joe Gives Boxing a Try c) Overseas Prominent Wealthy Citizen d) Washed up Boxer (ala Rocky) Returns to the Ring. To me it's like what Sinbad said about his take on clean cut comedy, it's really all about content. Get the content right, you don't need the profanity. I feel like this canned approach will be the same way it annoyed me that Tigger was the announcer for Fight Night 1. "Ooooh.. daa-yam that was a hard hit!" Sheesh, something stinks in suburbia..

[ChampN252]

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Some of you guys must be monks. Boxing is not a pansy sport. When I first started, I wasn't getting the techniques down. I was learning the art of ducking under punches... bobbing and weaving and such. Coach said he would knock my ********* head off if I didn't start doing it right. I got hit good once and did it right from there on. This should be all too familiar for anyone that's done it. Football is the same way. I assume that why Ray Lewis is rarely miced.

[Money99]

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Yeah, I played it and liked some of the concepts. I just have a different view on focusing on the good core aspects of boxing and sports gaming in general. Wasn't boxing historically a civilized man's fight? Yes, I still believe in values and think it's unnecessary.

I have a good notion I'm the unpopular minority here, but maybe they need to rethink Career Mode into a Create Your Own Adventure scheme.. Start from: a) Troubled Street Kid, b) Average Athletic Joe Gives Boxing a Try c) Overseas Prominent Wealthy Citizen d) Washed up Boxer (ala Rocky) Returns to the Ring. To me it's like what Sinbad said about his take on clean cut comedy, it's really all about content. Get the content right, you don't need the profanity. I feel like this canned approach will be the same way it annoyed me that Tigger was the announcer for Fight Night 1. "Ooooh.. daa-yam that was a hard hit!" Sheesh, something stinks in suburbia..

I love the idea of a Create your own adventure.

Regarding the profanity, I'm in the same boat as you. I realize we're in the short bus on this topic, but I don't see the need for it in a sports game. And I'd like to be able to play it in front of my kids as they're both interested in boxing to some degree.
I hope there's a language toggle to remove all the swearing.

[ChampN252]

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I feel you about the little on the little ones, but that's part of the sport. I;m assuming this game is probably a bit bloodier than the last titles. You cool with the youngins seeing that?

[bbarr43]

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Yeah, call me religious or a holy roller.. that's cool. Profanity exists in every sport. I've played organized football, basketball, etc. Some of us do exist out there however who choose not to get caught up in that foul trash talk, and just leave our game on the field, court, whatever.

Both my boys have been in martial arts, so I have no problem with boxing. With the increased blood and M rating, nope won't let them see this one. Amazes me how there is a push for every one to get educated to contribute positively to society, just so we can resort back to barbaric ways. Problem here is, some parents don't care anyway, and this being a recognized sport, our kids will pay.

On other note, I do believe that career approach would give a lasting appeal, cause you get totally different stories. You choose any style you want, but your street kid could excel more as a brawler. Your average athlete could have speed but lack punch accuracy and defense, so you develop each with a different mindset. Your wealthy citizen could be a balanced boxer but have a suspect chin. Your washed up boxer could be unorthodox, poor defense guy, but who's got heart and power comes out in the later rounds.

[fistofrage]

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I love the idea of a Create your own adventure.

Easy there Zelda.......


The fact that this story mode is for certain going to take away resources from the actual career mode as we know it should be a punch in the belly for all the sim players who want a proper representation of the sport, including the ranking system, promotions, stables of boxers, etc.

This has Don King boxing written all over it. You will have to fight a guy with a shank in the 3rd fight, a guy that fels no pain in the 5th fight, blurred visuiion in fight X.

I am very concerned now that we will just have the same cheezy 50 fighters per weight class ranking system, etc, that we've had all along. This wreaks failure from my perspective.

[bbarr43]

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Lol.. Zelda. I actually liked some of Don King, but yes you nailed it. The sim aspect of career mode is what I think is going overlooked for yet another year.

[II Reignmaka II]

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I'm not thrilled with this direction, and think it's a knock on the sport as a whole. Just another irresponsible move on EA, in my opinion (like exclusive rights to the NFL) to regress and not promote positive progress in the sports community. Is this what we can expect to see with future sports gaming? Go ahead and put Tyson's ear biting in too then. Some things are better left alone. It'll be the day I ever purchase a Madden or NBA game with the F-Bomb.. something I can't let my innocent kids' eyes see. But maybe that's just me. NBA2k11 is at the top of the charts without this stuff. To me, it's more unnecessary gimmicks that takes quality time away from core aspects. I'm sure the F-bomb is on every NFL game field on Sunday.. so I guess if I hear it in Madden it's going to make it more authentic? Guess it will have more market appeal? What is this world coming to? Guess we're not too far off from seeing Super Mario and Sonic flip off the customers! Yeah, I'm just one of the good old boys voicing his opinion.

Your innocent kids shouldnt have been playing Fight Night anyway, especially if their under 17. It used to be rated T for Teens afterall. All you have to do is talk to them and tell em its a video game. There are far worse things out there than this.

[morningstar777]

Yeah, I played it and liked some of the concepts. I just have a different view on focusing on the good core aspects of boxing and sports gaming in general. Wasn't boxing historically a civilized man's fight? Yes, I still believe in values and think it's unnecessary.

I have a good notion I'm the unpopular minority here, but maybe they need to rethink Career Mode into a Create Your Own Adventure scheme.. Start from: a) Troubled Street Kid, b) Average Athletic Joe Gives Boxing a Try c) Overseas Prominent Wealthy Citizen d) Washed up Boxer (ala Rocky) Returns to the Ring. To me it's like what Sinbad said about his take on clean cut comedy, it's really all about content. Get the content right, you don't need the profanity. I feel like this canned approach will be the same way it annoyed me that Tigger was the announcer for Fight Night 1. "Ooooh.. daa-yam that was a hard hit!" Sheesh, something stinks in suburbia..

Bbarr hit it right on the head. Most kids that start out boxing start to stay out of trouble, not because they were already in trouble. I think EA is trying to push the envelope by giving it a mature rating so people can buy it and see what the fuss is all about. I already have a big problem with Fight Night 3 (Boxers don't pause and leave themselves open for a counter everytime he misses a punch, and they certainly dont pause if they get blocked on a punch) That's just stupid. Not to mention the whole physics of the punches being thrown. I hope they do boxing some justice and make a game for real boxing fans, not just the casual fan.

[bbarr43]

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At II Reignmaka II, T rating to me is relative. I let my kids play some Spider-Man games, super hero games and such I feel are alright. But I give you that one, I'm not letting them on this game.

But back to the sport of boxing though. Man, when we were kids, how many of us were playing Mike Tyson's Punch Out? I don't care how old you were, back in the day that was a fun game, and as kids, we all were intrigued by this guy. He was the sport! In his prime, he was the biggest deal on earth, and boxing was considered a respectable sport. And as kids, how many of us grew up watching boxing and our folks were cool with it? It's what made it a sport.

It's just sad that the emphasis to rekindle boxing is based solely on UFC and MMA. To me, you're trying to change something to fit the mold of what it never was about. If boxing ever gets some quality powerhouse names back, mainly heavyweight that dominate, maybe it will change.

This is just a bad move in sports gaming to me. What logic changed to say we need it to be M rated? So My Player in NBA2k11 should have that then, cause I hear more foul trash on any bball court than anywhere I have been in my life. Sometimes I wonder who the Yahoos are running that EA ship. How many years have boxing gamers been requesting this new M theme idea? I sense a strange desperation move here, uh oh are they losing $$? Sadly, PCs used to drive simulation games, and to me that's where console gaming needs to bridge the gap. Hello, get a clue developers.

Look at this site and see what's wrong with Madden. People want gameplay realism, not gimmicks and stories. Every year it's something new that breaks something else. Oh wait, EA I fell for it again.. how did you get my $$ this time? I see a big problem with developers at EA never identifying what sports gamers want.

I was semi-pumped about this game at first, but I predict...Focus is on graphics (again) and okay gameplay, but we still won't get that PC sim managing aspect of Career rankings and ladders, we will have bozos back in the top 10, champs won't feel like champs, no clinch fighting, no pre-fight hype, no newspaper headlines, presentation and analysis will be non-existant... all to emphasize this humdinger mode. But wait EA... I'll even let this M theme story slide. Times is tuff! Any of my hard earned dineros will be riding on this one EA.. I will not fall for it again!