FistofRages' All-American Bowl Season Sliders

[fistofrage]

Updated 12/16/2010. I am having a great time with these sliders, I made just a couple changes that I put in parenthesis that I am going to use to make the game just a hair harder. Use whatever set you like, but have been getting great results

I decided to make a set of sliders in All-American to do some "play-now" games and play each of the Bowl games. They have been working great so far, so I thought I would share them. I was getting WAY too many defensive TD's by the human and some other things that were hurting the game for me.
I have only tested in "Play Now" so I am not sure if they suit dynasty, but I don't see why they wouldn't.

decided to see if I could get AA to play like Heisman because a few things were driving me nuts of Heisman. Here is what I have been using for a few Play Now games and liking it.
Trying to keep sliders on the 0, 25, 50, 75, where I can.

*****ALL-AMERICAN*****

Speed Threshold 50
No gameplanning like aggressive line play.

User Sliders
QB Accuracy: 10
Pass Blocking: 20
WR Catch: 60
RB Ability: 45
Run Blocking: 25
Pass Coverage: 50
Pass Rush: 50
Interceptions: 25
Rush Defense: 15
Tackling: 50
FG Power: 25
FG Accuracy: 0
Punt Power: 50
Punt Accuracy: 0
Kickoff Power: 50

CPU Sliders
QB Accuracy: 25
Pass Blocking: 40
WR Catch: 60
RB Ability: 90
Run Blocking: 95
Pass Coverage: 60
Pass Rush: 50
Interceptions: 60
Rush Defense: 75
Tackling: 55
FG Power: 25
FG Accuracy: 50
Punt Power: 50
Punt Accuracy: 100
Kickoff Power: 50

***Penalty Sliders
Offsides/Offense&Defense 60
Holding, Clipping, Facemask 55
Pass Interference 55
Roughing 55
Int'l Grounding 55

[VTPack919]

Re: FistofRages' All-American Bowl Season Sliders

I like that you are running these on all-american. I like a lot about heisman, but the CPU does some really annoying things.

I also avoid making any gameplan changes, I like that these don't require any.

[fistofrage]

Re: FistofRages' All-American Bowl Season Sliders

I like that you are running these on all-american. I like a lot about heisman, but the CPU does some really annoying things.

I also avoid making any gameplan changes, I like that these don't require any.

Cool, thanks. I think I will be bumping that speed threshold back up to 50 based on what I saw last night and commented about in the speed Threshhold thread I started.

[fistofrage]

Re: FistofRages' All-American Bowl Season Sliders

Alright, I am going to update these. I think they are set. I can definitely tell the difference between good players and good teams vs. lesser teams.

The best part about these is that it feels like Heisman and plays like Heisman but some of the annoying Heisman things have been eliminated. Specifically long FG's are not attempted if the AI doesn't have the leg and the AI QB play seems more realistic without the Robo feel.

1 thing I did notice though is that there are Human pancakes, but they do not get recorded. But I can live with that.

[VTPack919]

Re: FistofRages' All-American Bowl Season Sliders

Alright, I am going to update these. I think they are set. I can definitely tell the difference between good players and good teams vs. lesser teams.

The best part about these is that it feels like Heisman and plays like Heisman but some of the annoying Heisman things have been eliminated. Specifically long FG's are not attempted if the AI doesn't have the leg and the AI QB play seems more realistic without the Robo feel.

1 thing I did notice though is that there are Human pancakes, but they do not get recorded. But I can live with that.

Due to your change in threshold I bumped RBA up a bit. I also made the CPU QB less accurate and added to FG power because a kicker with 99 power could barely make a 45 yd fg.

These sliders are playing great with those tweaks. I think you are on to something here.

[fistofrage]

Re: FistofRages' All-American Bowl Season Sliders

Due to your change in threshold I bumped RBA up a bit. I also made the CPU QB less accurate and added to FG power because a kicker with 99 power could barely make a 45 yd fg.

These sliders are playing great with those tweaks. I think you are on to something here.

Excellent, thanks for the feedback. I changed the sliders a bit, they are updated on the first page, but the AI offense is playing great. Just have to tweak the human a bit to your liking, but I think the AI offense is solid.

[pdiehm]

Re: FistofRages' All-American Bowl Season Sliders

I don't think RBA can be below 50. I had 7 fumbles without using the right stick in the first half playing as Nebraska vs Minnesota.

The numbers weren't bad, and I dropped threshhold to 25...at 50, things were just going too fast for me. Also, just as on heisman, the CPU swim moves are just unstoppable, and they occur about 90% of the time.


Everytime I come back to this game, I find a reason to put it down again. 2 weeks ago it was the cpu jumping 56 of the 59 offensive snaps I had. Today it's of the 31 plays I ran in the first half, the CPU DL did their swim move on 29 of them.

[VTPack919]

Re: FistofRages' All-American Bowl Season Sliders

I don't think RBA can be below 50. I had 7 fumbles without using the right stick in the first half playing as Nebraska vs Minnesota.

The numbers weren't bad, and I dropped threshhold to 25...at 50, things were just going too fast for me. Also, just as on heisman, the CPU swim moves are just unstoppable, and they occur about 90% of the time.


Everytime I come back to this game, I find a reason to put it down again. 2 weeks ago it was the cpu jumping 56 of the 59 offensive snaps I had. Today it's of the 31 plays I ran in the first half, the CPU DL did their swim move on 29 of them.

I definitely didn't see a fumble problem before I switched. The human pass block could be turned up a little but I like the time I have in the pocket right now.

[fistofrage]

Re: FistofRages' All-American Bowl Season Sliders

I definitely didn't see a fumble problem before I switched. The human pass block could be turned up a little but I like the time I have in the pocket right now.

You just have to cover up and there won't be a fumble problem. The AI will try to lower the boom if they have an impact player on D.

I will say that AI Offense and human defense are rock solid. If you want the game to be a little easier for the human, raise RB ability, R Block, and Pass block. Thats up to preference, but I like this set better than my Heisman set and get roughly the same scores, it just seems to play better.

[z Revis]

Re: FistofRages' All-American Bowl Season Sliders

Just finished a game with these sliders. I was Georgia playing @ Oregon. I won 42-35. The only problem I saw offensively from the human standpoint is I had a lot of BIG plays in the passing game. All of them to AJ Green and all of which were from some variation of the vertical plays(Four Verticals, Hail Mary, etc.). AJ Green is a monster, but I don't think he's that good. He caught 7 passes for 332 yards. Are you still using a house rule against verticals?

Beyond that, they were very good. The flow of the game was nice. Oregon's offense was just like they are in real life. Shredded my defense all game, racked up over 600 yards. LaMichael James played like LaMichael James. At any moment, I felt like they could strike quickly and they did on most of their scoring drives. I also liked how they answered just about every one of my scores. Even when I had a 14 point lead twice in the game, they kept attacking. I thought they'd eventually lay down and I'd end up blowing them out, but that never happened. The difference in the game was turnovers. They had 4 turnovers to my 2 including a game ending INT.

Overall I liked them. I'll keep playing. One thing to point out is that in real life, Oregon would probably blowout Georgia, but in this game, I'm using DK's rosters and Oregon and UGA are about equal(A- offense, B+ defense) so the fact that I won isn't a huge shock.

[fistofrage]

Re: FistofRages' All-American Bowl Season Sliders

Just finished a game with these sliders. I was Georgia playing @ Oregon. I won 42-35. The only problem I saw offensively from the human standpoint is I had a lot of BIG plays in the passing game. All of them to AJ Green and all of which were from some variation of the vertical plays(Four Verticals, Hail Mary, etc.). AJ Green is a monster, but I don't think he's that good. He caught 7 passes for 332 yards. Are you still using a house rule against verticals?

Beyond that, they were very good. The flow of the game was nice. Oregon's offense was just like they are in real life. Shredded my defense all game, racked up over 600 yards. LaMichael James played like LaMichael James. At any moment, I felt like they could strike quickly and they did on most of their scoring drives. I also liked how they answered just about every one of my scores. Even when I had a 14 point lead twice in the game, they kept attacking. I thought they'd eventually lay down and I'd end up blowing them out, but that never happened. The difference in the game was turnovers. They had 4 turnovers to my 2 including a game ending INT.

Overall I liked them. I'll keep playing. One thing to point out is that in real life, Oregon would probably blowout Georgia, but in this game, I'm using DK's rosters and Oregon and UGA are about equal(A- offense, B+ defense) so the fact that I won isn't a huge shock.

Yes, I have a house rule against 4 verticals and 5 WR sets. I also don't run plays from 4 WR sets where the inside receivers run go routes.

I could thrash the hardest of Heisman sliders if I used 4 verticals and 5 WR sets. Use those house rules and play the game again and let me know how it goes.

[BallinVol]

Re: FistofRages' All-American Bowl Season Sliders

What game speed setting do you play this on? Slow, Normal, etc?

[fistofrage]

Re: FistofRages' All-American Bowl Season Sliders

What game speed setting do you play this on? Slow, Normal, etc?

Normal. I have never tried anything but normal.

[NDNathan]

Re: FistofRages' All-American Bowl Season Sliders

I think that with any slider set, the best way to tell if they are good is to take a lousy team up against a powerhouse. For instance, play as UL-Lafayette @ LSU. The score should be in the whereabouts of 42-0. Then take a powerhouse team against a cupcake, such as Boise State vs Utah State. This should also be a large beatdown. If these conditions are met, it is likely that the sliders will perform just fine.

[BenGerman]

Re: FistofRages' All-American Bowl Season Sliders

Just played a game with these in my Dynasty (3rd year), using Florida, against Pittsburg.

I won 16-14 and it was the closest game I've had since I started the Dynasty. I shut Pitt down most of their game, especially their passing attack (54 yards). Their RB had 107 yards on 14 carries, but after they got ahead their offensive scheme seemed much less aggressive and easier to stop.

My QB went 11-13 for 187 Yards. I didn't pass it a lot considering I have a wealth of RB's and used them (2 Backs went for 128 yards on 40 carries). All in all, it was a great Defensive game, and a great game in general. One recommendation I would make it to make sure you turn the Strip Ball gameplan on Conservative. Otherwise the CPU will be fumbling the ball multiple times a game from what I've seen. That said, great sliders as always Fist. I've used your slider sets for a few years now spanning different games and have always enjoyed the difficulty level they bring.