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  • GlennN
    MVP
    • Oct 2003
    • 1929

    #1

    Pushing and shoving after the whistle

    I liked the pushing and shoving after the whistle in NHL 10, but it seems very toned down in 11. I have not had any coincidental minors called for it in 11, while I used to have at least a couple a game in 10. No fights happening in 11 (unless I start them), while I had them in 10. I would like to get back to what I had in 10 (without, of course, going back to 10). Is this a setting issue anybody know? I have fights maxed, penalties maxed, and I have tried out each of the post-whistle settings (not really seeing any difference in the settings, by the way). What have you folks seen? Thanks!
  • Money99
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2002
    • 12694

    #2
    Re: Pushing and shoving after the whistle

    Originally posted by GlennN
    I liked the pushing and shoving after the whistle in NHL 10, but it seems very toned down in 11. I have not had any coincidental minors called for it in 11, while I used to have at least a couple a game in 10. No fights happening in 11 (unless I start them), while I had them in 10. I would like to get back to what I had in 10 (without, of course, going back to 10). Is this a setting issue anybody know? I have fights maxed, penalties maxed, and I have tried out each of the post-whistle settings (not really seeing any difference in the settings, by the way). What have you folks seen? Thanks!
    It's definitely toned down. I like it that way though. But maybe they need a slider to dictate how frequent post-whistle shenanigans occur.

    But, they need to work on it still. For starters, I hate how the CPU never starts a fight. What's the point of having Avery or Carcillo on the ice when they don't act like them?
    Also, they need to clean it up where you get a penalty for being assaulted.
    Case in point: the other night I shot the puck after the whistle had blown. I was being hammered from behind and I did nothing to retaliate. Next thing I know, I'm the only guy being put in the box. That kind of crap has to stop.

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    • Borgskier
      Rookie
      • Feb 2010
      • 22

      #3
      Re: Pushing and shoving after the whistle

      Originally posted by Money99
      Case in point: the other night I shot the puck after the whistle had blown. I was being hammered from behind and I did nothing to retaliate. Next thing I know, I'm the only guy being put in the box. That kind of crap has to stop.
      I agree. That even looks more silly when they show the replay of the infraction and the guy is just wailing on you, but it's your penalty. I loved goading players into roughing me so my team could get the PP, but I've stopped almost all post-whistle activity in NHL11.

      This change really just left it to where the opposing team will have an enforcer start roughing you up if you're playing really well and making goals. That's the only time they seem to really pick a fight anymore. I've never played much online, but there the post-whistle pens seem almost impossible to draw without actually fighting.

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      • speels
        Pro
        • Feb 2004
        • 779

        #4
        Re: Pushing and shoving after the whistle

        The rason you get the penalty is because you shot the puck in the net after the wistle blows. Show me one time in an NHL when a player shoots the puck into the net after the whistle. It doesn't happen as it is a hockey code not to do it.

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        • Section_25
          Pro
          • Sep 2009
          • 717

          #5
          Re: Pushing and shoving after the whistle

          Originally posted by speels
          The rason you get the penalty is because you shot the puck in the net after the wistle blows. Show me one time in an NHL when a player shoots the puck into the net after the whistle. It doesn't happen as it is a hockey code not to do it.
          Yea, that a big "NO,NO" in the NHL. Fire the puck into the net after the whistle is a good way to get jumped by the whole team! Not only is it disrespectful, but it's also a good way to injure the opposing goalie for no reason.

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          • Blueland
            Rookie
            • Mar 2010
            • 29

            #6
            Re: Pushing and shoving after the whistle

            I wish they'd make the post whistle shoving after the whistle more realistic. If I'm poking near the goalie when he's holding the puck and the whistle blows, I want to see a guy push me right in front of the goalie, and have my teammates respond accordingly, so on and so forth.

            I hate how it's all just one on one. I also don't like how once a guy starts shoving you, it's incredibly difficult to shove back or to start a fight.

            I just want to a bunch of guys on the different teams start face washing/shoving/holding each other back/etc. And I want to see it at or around the net, where most post-whistle stuff is instigated from.

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            • Captain_Crazzzy
              Rookie
              • Jun 2010
              • 92

              #7
              Re: Pushing and shoving after the whistle

              is there anyway whatsoever to get CPUs to fight each other? Im playing BAP and i'm not a fighter, but anytime the CPU is pushing or trying to start a fight they're coming after my guy and never anyone else on my team. Would like to see my teammates get into it every once in awhile.

              I'm scared to turn fighting slider up cause I think it'll just bring more opponents at me personally. (keep in mind I don't do that bush league play where I'm checking or shooting the puck after the whistle.)
              Cubs | Colts | Pacers | Blackhawks | Fire | Hoosiers

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              • kehlis
                Moderator
                • Jul 2008
                • 27738

                #8
                Re: Pushing and shoving after the whistle

                Originally posted by speels
                The rason you get the penalty is because you shot the puck in the net after the wistle blows. Show me one time in an NHL when a player shoots the puck into the net after the whistle. It doesn't happen as it is a hockey code not to do it.
                What penalty is that?

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                • GlennN
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 1929

                  #9
                  Re: Pushing and shoving after the whistle

                  Originally posted by kehlis
                  What penalty is that?
                  When this is called, usually it is called as unsportsmanlike conduct (and more often than not, a player from the other team also goes off for roughing).

                  By the way, what setting are you folks using for post whistle stuff? I have yet to see any penalties called for post-whistle stuff, or have any fights start (unless I start them).

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                  • kehlis
                    Moderator
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 27738

                    #10
                    Re: Pushing and shoving after the whistle

                    Originally posted by GlennN
                    When this is called, usually it is called as unsportsmanlike conduct (and more often than not, a player from the other team also goes off for roughing).
                    My point was that shooting on net after the whistle is not a penalty. It is not accepted by the players, but it isn't a penalty.

                    Does it say in the rule book shooting on net after the wistle is a penalty?

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                    • Blueland
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 29

                      #11
                      Re: Pushing and shoving after the whistle

                      Originally posted by kehlis
                      My point was that shooting on net after the whistle is not a penalty. It is not accepted by the players, but it isn't a penalty.

                      Does it say in the rule book shooting on net after the wistle is a penalty?
                      Shooting on net after the whistle is an unsportsmanlike action, hence, it warrants an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.

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                      • kehlis
                        Moderator
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 27738

                        #12
                        Re: Pushing and shoving after the whistle

                        Originally posted by Blueland
                        Shooting on net after the whistle is an unsportsmanlike action, hence, it warrants an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty.
                        Fair enough, but the only penalty I have received in the game in the scenerio's described above have been for roughing.

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                        • goatriderhorde
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 25

                          #13
                          Re: Pushing and shoving after the whistle

                          Originally posted by GlennN
                          When this is called, usually it is called as unsportsmanlike conduct (and more often than not, a player from the other team also goes off for roughing).

                          By the way, what setting are you folks using for post whistle stuff? I have yet to see any penalties called for post-whistle stuff, or have any fights start (unless I start them).
                          I use Authentic post play rules with the penalty slider set one notch below max. Aside from the cpu not starting any fights, I feel like it's pretty fair. Sometimes I can goad the cpu into a penalty, sometimes it's matching minors, and on occasion it'll just be me getting the roughing call.

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                          • GlennN
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 1929

                            #14
                            Re: Pushing and shoving after the whistle

                            Originally posted by goatriderhorde
                            I use Authentic post play rules with the penalty slider set one notch below max. Aside from the cpu not starting any fights, I feel like it's pretty fair. Sometimes I can goad the cpu into a penalty, sometimes it's matching minors, and on occasion it'll just be me getting the roughing call.
                            Ok, thanks, I'll try that. I have sampled all of the settings and can't get any penalties called at all.

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                            • GlennN
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 1929

                              #15
                              Re: Pushing and shoving after the whistle

                              This is driving me crazy. I have now played several games using "authentic" setting for post-whistle, I have my fighting and penalties sliders maxed, and I have yet to have any penalties at all for the after the whistle stuff (though I frequently push and shove other players for the brief time it lets me). If you folks are getting penalties called, I am not sure what I am doing differently.

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