before the patch, i was playing on all star and was able to develop an almost perfect sliders (minus the offensive board issue). to be honest, i didnt want to download the patch because i was already 11-6 with the kings. but one day, i had to connect to xbox live to play some ssf4 and after that i decided to play 2k11 and i forgot to unplug xbox live. even when i said no to the update, it changed the game somehow and it was never the same, so i just decided to download it one day and see. eversince then, i couldnt find my medium in all star, so i decided to see if i can find a slider here that'll fit me. i'm really glad i ran into yours man. i too beat the lakers the first time i played them, but i was at home and we won in overtime lol. i dont think i'll beat them the 2nd time i play them lol