Does Tim Duncan start at Power Forward or Center?
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Re: Tim Duncan starts at what position?
Power Forward.
And moves to Center for certain scenarios, assignments, or depleted roster.
Blair and Mcdyess play "Center" for the Spurs. -
Re: Tim Duncan starts at what position?
In my game I put him at Center. It makes more sense to meComment
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Re: Tim Duncan starts at what position?
Duncan in all honesty has played center his entire career sans the years with David Robinson and the years that Rasho was there. He did start off as a PF to begin his career next to The Admiral, but he hasnt truely guarded or been guarded by a PF in years.
Watch a Spurs game (not just this year, many years), Duncan ALWAYS guards the opposing center, and the opposing center always guards him.
Duncan possibly either doesnt WANT to be labeled a center, or he has been possibly annouced as a "power forward", because Shaq, Yao etc were super popular centers, which made it hard to get voted in as a starter for the All Star Game.
Dwight Howard was the same way during his first couple years in the league. He was scared for some reason of that label. Then in year 2, Orlando moved him to center and never told him. We annouced him as PF but then made him guard the 5's (and he was always guarded by 5's on the flipside).
The big dummy finally accepted the label and relished in it once he realized that he was a virtual lock as an All Star and ASG Starter labeled as a "Center" (since there are no good 5's).Last edited by Neon1; 12-11-2010, 02:33 PM.Comment
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Re: Tim Duncan starts at what position?
You beat me to it, I was about to post the same thing, minus the part about Dwight Howard.
Duncan started out his career playing at PF alongside Robinson, obviously, but eventually slid over to center and has been at that position for the past few years.
Why would Duncan be at PF, but Blair, who is already an undersized power forward as it is, be at center? Think about it, it doesn't make sense. Just because NBA.com lists it doesn't make it true, just look at what they list player weights (and sometimes height) at.NBA 2K18 ratings for several seasons generated from advanced analytics using the SportsCrunch system:
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Re: Tim Duncan starts at what position?
Duncan plays the 4 in a lot of their offensive sets,so it's a bit more complicated and hard to simulate in basketball video games.PS3/PS4 BradCompanyComment
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Re: Tim Duncan starts at what position?
He plays PF and C but he mostly play C for defense and jump balls. He mostly play PF when he has a smaller PF guarding him...
He and KG doesn't want to be labeled 7 footers and C's....True bout my business, Mane!Comment
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Re: Tim Duncan starts at what position?
Hows that? There is no such thing. Position labels do not determine where you stand, spot up, post up or shoot from. The players individual skillset determines that. Outside of Point Guard there really isnt any set position (in terms of what/where you do things) on offense.
Who you can defend while still being effective on offense determines what your "position" is.
For example, MJ posted up a TON, but that doesnt mean he was playing PF or C on offense.
SG's defended him and he defended SG's (and small 3's, Which are basically the same as SG's), so that was his "position".Comment
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Re: Tim Duncan starts at what position?
The Spurs Offensive sets geared towards Timmy is a PF set. (im talkin smash).
Blair/McDyess/ whomever plays along him does the dirty work at the "Center" position.
It really interchangable, but he's not a classic back to the basket Center. He plays at the elbow like a PF. He's not stuck in the paint like a 5. He's not Ben Wallace or Yao Ming.
He plays with lunch pail guys down low giving him more freedom to manuever.
When Francisco Elson was there he was the Center and Tim was a PF.
If i was a Spurs team player i'd place him at PF. And have him guard opposing PF/C according to height/talent.
I'd have him play Al Hortford vs Smith.
Check the Spurs Playbook and see what plays maximize his skill set. Center or Power Forward?
I bet the PF set is more advantageous.
The whole idea of the biggest man on the court HAS to play Center is bunk.Last edited by BATMON; 12-11-2010, 06:59 PM.Comment
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Re: Tim Duncan starts at what position?
He jumps at the start of games. He guards the other team's center and the other team's center gaurds him. So in terms of 2K11, Tim Duncan is a center.
As far as the playbook goes, you can set it up so that, even at center, Tim Duncan runs all of their "Power Forward" plays. The only problem is when he's suppose to be involved in a play but he's not the primary option. i.e. 1-4 Pick and Roll with Tony Park or 2 - 4 Dive with Manu Ginobili, it will use whomever is at the 4, instead of Tim Duncan.Comment
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Re: Tim Duncan starts at what position?
Id go even further and say he was more of a Center than D-Rob. Sure D-Rob defended the Shaqs, Dreams and Zos of the world but offensively Duncan played the low post and D-Rob played up high. So it was like a 50-50 relationship alongside D-Rob, possibly less than that but theres no mistake Duncan played alot of center back then.
Now adays he plays more of a perimeter game but hes more of a center now than ever due to the changing philosophies within the game.
I list him as a Center but I understand why others would rather keep him at the 4Comment
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Re: Tim Duncan starts at what position?
Who u defend doesnt designate your position and just because u jump at tipoff doesnt make u a Center.
Its how u use him.Comment
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Re: Tim Duncan starts at what position?
People say the same thing about role association though, like scoring guards not being PG's even if they play the position. Does that mean there are instances where there are zero PG's or zero C's in the game?
Besides, the thing about Duncan is that hes always played the most like a Center than anyone else on the team. That he is defended by centers and that he now guards them as well, only adds to the confusion.
Which is why Ive always preferred the Points, Swings, and Bigs classification.Comment
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Re: Tim Duncan starts at what position?
This is Tim Duncan's production by position breakdown.Production by Position
Player Floor Time Stats by Position
Position Min Net Pts Off Def Net48 W L Win%
PG
SG
SF
PF
C 60% +177 107.8 93.3 14.5 16 3 84%
Min represents the percentage of the team's total minutes the player was at that position. W and L are not adjusted in this instance by quality of opponent while at that position in a game.
You may notice that he has ZERO count it, 0% playing time at the "FORWARD" position.
in 2009-2010 Duncan played 55% at Center, and 7% at PF.
Duncan is and always has been a center. He guards Centers, Centers guard him. The fact that he is more skilled than his counterpart 95% of the time has zero bearing on what his actual "position" on the court is.
If Shaq suddenly decided he wanted to shoot 3's all game he would STILL be a center.Last edited by Neon1; 12-12-2010, 02:10 AM.Comment
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Re: Tim Duncan starts at what position?
Forward-Center
2002/03 - He plays Center alongside David Robinson & Kevin Willis? Unless Malik Rose played PF in the lineup.
03/04 - plays Center w/ Rasho Nesterovic at PF?
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Franciso Elson at Center - Duncan @ PF
Nazi Muhammhed - Center - Duncan @ PF
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