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  • RaychelSnr
    Executive Editor
    • Jan 2007
    • 4845

    #1

    OS Radio Show Tomorrow Night -- NCAA Football Edition!



    OS Radio is returning to the internet airwaves tomorrow night for a special edition of the show! Join myself (Chris Sanner) and Christian McLeod as we welcome on EA Sports' (and a member of the NCAA Football team) Ben Haumiller to discuss NCAA Football in both the real and digital formats. We'll predict some bowl games and try to get Ben to give us the master plan for NCAA Football 12, although we suspect he'll be able to withstand Christian's charm for the hour we'll have him on.

    What: OS Radio Show

    When: 9pm EST Tommorrow Night

    Where: We will be live both on OS and on BlogTalkRadio!

    Hosts: Our Executive Editor Chris Sanner as well as OS Staff Writer Christian McLeod.

    Guest: NCAA Football 11 Developer/Team Member Ben Haumiller

    Listen Link: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/operationsports
    Listen live in the top right hand corner.
    OS Executive Editor
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  • Hooe
    Hall Of Fame
    • Aug 2002
    • 21555

    #2
    I'm hopeful that you all get some interesting tidbit of information out of Haumiller as to the direction of NCAA 12. NCAA 11 was my favorite football game of the three that game out for the next-gen consoles this past year, and I'm interested to see in what they do to improve on their winning formula.

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    • Gotmadskillzson
      Live your life
      • Apr 2008
      • 23442

      #3
      Re: OS Radio Show Tomorrow Night -- NCAA Football Edition!

      Wohoo, I am definitely going to ask him about the broken scrambling cpu QB logic. And why none of the QBs scramble, not even the ones that they have listed as a scrambling QB. And how come none of them are dual threat.

      I mean one has to run in order to be considered a dual threat. Also why the cpu executes the spread offenses so terrible. But ya know, more importantly why the cpu QBs don't scramble

      It is unacceptable in 2010 to have a football game that don't have scrambling QBs. I mean hell even the NES and Sega Genesis had scrambling QBs.

      So you trying to tell me the Xbox 360 & PS3, which are basically mini PCs can't have scrambling QBs ? And they can't say nobody brought it up, because it is brought up EVERY YEAR ever since NCAA 07.

      I brought it up in July 3 days after the game came out. Told the community manager Dewiel dozen times since July. Told Adam Thompson on this forum, told Russ on this forum, told them on EA's website forum several times in every single forum category they had on EA from feedback, to series discussion to technical issues, you name it, I posted it on there ever since July.

      Hell even twitted Dewiel, Josh Lohman, Jerry Strausser, Larry Richart, Ian, Donny........5 months later and neither NCAA or Madden has addressed this issue.

      So it seems to me none of these guys ever played against the cpu and only play online or something.

      But anyway should be a great Radioshow.

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      • rudeworld
        Rookie
        • Nov 2003
        • 257

        #4
        lol...they just dont listen gotmadskillzson.... it's as simple as that. How is a game company who's slogan is if its in the game "its in the game" does not have the simple things in any of there games... And when it is mentioned to them in forums, blogs, emails and through twitter has not done anything to address many of the faults through a patch/update.

        Is NCAA is a solid game on the field? Yes I think so... sure the announcing is well... boring(need to add new lines for Brad and Kirk) but where games like NBA 2k11 and even going back to NFL2k5 keep me playing is what can be done after the plays, the halftime show, post game show makes these games feel like they are more than just a video game.

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        • Bullet Sponge
          Pro
          • Sep 2010
          • 828

          #5
          Re: OS Radio Show Tomorrow Night -- NCAA Football Edition!

          Originally posted by rudeworld
          Is NCAA is a solid game on the field? Yes I think so... sure the announcing is well... boring(need to add new lines for Brad and Kirk)
          New lines? They need lines that make sense. Half the time they say something so generic that it may as well not be said at all, or something just outright wrong or completely inappropriate for the situation on the field. Fix the announcer logic, then worry about adding lines. I don't need MORE of Kirk saying "Too many penalties can ruin a team's chance of winning"

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          • Gotmadskillzson
            Live your life
            • Apr 2008
            • 23442

            #6
            Re: OS Radio Show Tomorrow Night -- NCAA Football Edition!

            I don't think they ever changed the lines of NCAA in over a decade. Same thing with the crowds. They really need dynamic commentary and crowds. NBA 2K11 really has set the bar when it comes to commentary and crowd interaction.

            In NCAA people cheer when the opposing team scores a TD.......SMH Why is my cheerleaders jumping for them ? Do a big hit and you get nothing from the crowd at all.

            I mean come on, even Madden has moved on from BOOM, WHERE THAT TRUCK COME FROM ?

            Over all though being these developers came from Florida St, Florida, Michigan, etc., some even played football at these schools, how can you come from a football background then make this and say it is football ???

            Especially the ones who were former QBs themselves. Kind of reminds me of that QB Blog that wasn't even about QBs at all, it was about the defense.

            I had such high hopes for this game. Thought it would be sports game of the year. I mean they really hyped it up talking about how the offense would be unstoppable, the cpu going to run all over you, dual threat QBs, the awesomeness of the spread offense. It would be like nothing you ever seen before.

            Got the game, played against Michigan......WTF.......played against Auburn......WTF

            Then I thought well ok let me play against a school that had a well known dual threat QB, played against Oregon.......SMH, played against VT, GT, Ohio St, Nevada.....SMH

            Picked up the game case flipped it over........

            120 ways to win
            Run the offense the way the schools do
            New offensive styles.......

            Hmmmmmm. They got the new playbooks, but none of the spread, pistol, multiple or option schools run them properly. Mainly because none of the QBs scramble.

            Scrambling mobile QB is the key component of any spread offense. If the QB isn't a threat to run, then that offense doesn't work.

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            • khaliib
              MVP
              • Jan 2005
              • 2884

              #7
              NCAA simply needs an Open Editor as discussed with Ian with Madden.

              Also, until coding for tendency sliders (like 2k11) are included for players/teams, this will be year 9 about ratings/gameplay issues with this game.

              The first thing about any information on NCAA 12 should be about what gamers have found through their extensive testing dealing with their ratings system and what affects they actually have on gameplay.

              At some point, someone will find a way around the digital signature that prevents a 3rd party editor (Finn/Pocketscout) from being used to help fix some of the ratings/gameplay issues we are finding.

              Once that happens, then an Open Editor will be introduced as a "New Feature" or a year after Madden has included it. So we're looking at around 2013, 2014 or 2015 with the current Madden to NCAA format.

              The other issues that is a must address is the "Field" size. The NCAA field is simply too small (length/width) which creates "All" of the issues pertaining to gameplay. Everything must happen in a vacuum at a quick pace. Movements do not have the proper space to play out.

              Again, see how much field there is on Madden:
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              Last edited by khaliib; 12-13-2010, 03:49 PM.

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              • rudyjuly2
                Cade Cunningham
                • Aug 2002
                • 14816

                #8
                Re: OS Radio Show Tomorrow Night -- NCAA Football Edition!

                Get the goods on NCAA 12! See if you can get Ben to tell you what difficulty level he plays on and if he uses sliders.

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                • Gotmadskillzson
                  Live your life
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 23442

                  #9
                  Re: OS Radio Show Tomorrow Night -- NCAA Football Edition!

                  well all of them seem to play on all american. All american is meh to me.......I prefer the in between all american and heisman.

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                  • BaylorBearBryant
                    Sic 'em Bears!
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 1536

                    #10
                    Gotmadskillzson,

                    I'm going to appoint you to Chief Executive QB Scrambling Logic Officer of thr NCAA OS Forum. We're counting on you to get that topic discussed. Of course I have no authority to do such a thing, but I hope you or someone from OS gets the opportunity to ask if this will be adressed in NCAA12.




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                    • thesteamontheboat
                      Rookie
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 220

                      #11
                      Could you guys ask if they can make better recruits equipment wise?
                      XBOX 360 GAMERTAG: Rikkisteam87

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                      • khaliib
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 2884

                        #12
                        Originally posted by thesteamontheboat
                        Could you guys ask if they can make better recruits equipment wise?
                        These are the things that usually get addressed 1st every year, so don't worry.

                        Never mind the remedies for gameplay improvement the community finds through testing/tweaking.
                        Or better ways to utilize ratings beyond speed, so that they come alive on the field.

                        Or the Pinball size gamefield that causes game movements and play to react unrealistic because of the unproportioned space.

                        It's always external things, very seldom internal/under the hood issues they deal with on the forums.

                        Hopefully they break away from the normal incorporation of last years Madden into NCAA.

                        But you can bet equipment, facemask, uniform issues will be at the top of feedback to the community.

                        Steam,
                        This is not directly at you. Just notating what usually gets asked and anwered 1st by the Dev's.

                        Baylor,
                        If Skills is the Chief Executive QB Scrambling Logic Officer

                        consider me the Chief Executive Proportionate Field Size Officer

                        so his QB's will have actual field space to scramble in a realistic manner before getting "Hawked" by EA's super-fast DE's.

                        Open positions available for:
                        Fatigue Officer
                        Ratings Officer
                        Special Teams Officer
                        Ball Carrier Logic Officer
                        Man/Zone Logic Officer
                        Last edited by khaliib; 12-13-2010, 08:34 PM.

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                        • JerseySuave4
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 5152

                          #13
                          NCAA would go a long way is they got their presentation more realistic like NBA 2k and MLB the Show have. Well executed replays, multiple camera angles for when you play, and most importantly more realistic commentary.

                          I think if they give the commentary a shot of adrenaline this game could go a long way. They had CBS for the college basketball game. Get them back into the game for football and use their espn/abc connection along with the other family of networks such as espn2, espnU, and you have everything. Multiple announce crews, if you have 1 for each network thats 4 new announce crews. Along with that you use espnU for like a weekly show or something in your franchise.

                          Make the franchise screen like the espn website but make sure you can navigate through the menus quick (last year was slow). Add a College Gameday and allow more freedom with custom conferences (ability to add or subtract teams or create a championship game). You do that along with getting the neutral site games in the game and you have yourself a great game.

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                          • JerseySuave4
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 5152

                            #14
                            and they need to really get the college atmosphere back in the game. Bring back the camera shake, make the crowd cheer and boo at the appropriate times, have some of the traditional chants, make them stand and sit at the right times. What makes college football so much different than the NFL is the atmosphere. The difference between a 100,000+ seat stadium and a 35,000 seat stadium. The way the crowds dress, let us create blackouts and white outs and blue outs or whatever.

                            Eye black for the players, more realistic helmet styles, better looking face types, more realistic equipment. Think about how much difference something like new cleats with color add to the look of the game. These player models need to look and move like you see on tv, athletically. But with all the different players there should be variety in throwing styles, running styles to choose from.

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                            • DerkontheOS
                              GB
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 3138

                              #15
                              Re: OS Radio Show Tomorrow Night -- NCAA Football Edition!

                              What about Making Coaches Matter Officer?

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