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  • Buke14
    Pro
    • Jul 2008
    • 585

    #1

    Anyone got tips on how you stay commited in Association?

    I always am good through like 5-8 games but can never make it full 82. So to combat this I'm going to switch to 29 games but my main issue is something I need some kinda tips on.

    1) During FA/Drafts I always end up with players that should be starters/6th man so I end up with like 4+ role players. What kinda tips should I try to follow to avoid having too MUCH talent.
    Last edited by Buke14; 12-14-2010, 07:29 PM.
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  • Weeks
    L Corleone
    • Aug 2009
    • 2990

    #2
    Re: Anyone got tips on how you stay commited/keep balance rosters in Association?

    Originally posted by Buke14
    I always am good through like 5-8 games but can never make it full 82. So to combat this I'm going to switch to 29 games but my main issue is something I need some kinda tips on.

    1) During FA/Drafts I always end up with players that should be starters/6th man so I end up with like 4+ role players. What kinda tips should I try to follow to avoid having too MUCH talent.
    1. SIM Games
    2. Find a slider set that you enjoy playing with
    3. As hard as it may be RESIST the urge to sign 70+ OVR guys if they aren't going to start or be 6th men.
    4. Play it realistically, if a ridiculous trade offer comes up like D. Wade for Devin Harris and Troy Murphy, and your the Nets, don't accept it.

    Think like a GM! Not a guy who is trying to get a team of all 70's.

    PS. A lot of people will sign young players who are easy to trade for and progress a lot, go for older guys on the decline sometimes to even it out.

    EDIT: So pretty much resist trading for guys like OJ Mayo who will one day be a 90 ovr, if you have a hole at shooting gaurd and need scoring go for Ray Allen who is still effective but slowly declining. In 2K it's to easy to build a good team, you have to resist the urge.
    Last edited by Weeks; 12-14-2010, 08:34 PM.
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    • happy_accidents3
      Rookie
      • Nov 2009
      • 132

      #3
      Re: Anyone got tips on how you stay commited in Association?

      Dont use development on ur star players use it on ur prospects
      Have a plan when building a team don't just go by overall, and trade down in the draft for more picks or trade pieces if u get a top 5 pick and don't need it. I try to only have 3 top scores on a team usually my pg,pf, and sf.
      Sim 82 games is a lot of time if you have anything over 8min quarters. I usually play till I secure the playoff spot or if my team is good enough sim till playoffs and then play them.

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      • DarthRambo
        MVP
        • Mar 2008
        • 6631

        #4
        Re: Anyone got tips on how you stay commited in Association?

        Everything samtw said

        I play 82gms at 12min qtrs...but ONLY play 1gm a week(on game), so I counted and that's 25gms I'll play total. Which is less than a 29gm season and still get the benefit of playing a 82gm schedule with good stats.

        Also, I changed the first round of the playoffs to be best of 5 like it used to be to speed up playoffs. Getting to the more important rounds quicker.

        Edit every player in D-league to be 45yrs old and in league for 27yrs. Why? Cuz they are created ppl, and will retire after that first season. Then after that you'll be able to bring more depth in ur asslciation with having actual real players u draft etc in the d-league.

        Most important thing is to just be real! Like samtw said, RESIST building a team of all 70+ ovr just cuz u can. Build ur team the right way, the way a GM would irl.
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        • Weeks
          L Corleone
          • Aug 2009
          • 2990

          #5
          Re: Anyone got tips on how you stay commited in Association?

          ...and remember, the trade is the killer of many associations...

          So pretty much don't load up an association and trade half of your team before you play one game. If you trade half your team you might as well just do a fantasy draft and pick who you want. But we all gotta trade sometimes, but when you do KEEP IT REAL.

          My most recent trade for instance:

          Bulls(me) Receive:
          61 OVR Shaun Livingston
          62 OVR Donte Greene

          Kings Receive:
          68 OVR CJ Watson
          '11 1st Round Pick via Bobcats

          Bobcats Receive:
          71 OVR Jason Thompson

          Notice how the highest rated player in the whole trade was a 71 OVR, and I didn't receive him.

          And think through a trade. For instance in my trade the Kings starting PG tore his MCL and was out for the season, so I gave them my PG. Jason Thompson was furious with his role, so I had them trade him to the Bobcats who lack depth at PF. The Kings also recieved a 1st round pick to help them rebuild. For me, CJ Watson just wasn't getting it done so I traded for a lesser PG Livingston and SF that gives me good size in Greene.

          When making trades don't do something like rondo to the jazz for jefferson and millsap. the jazz already have williams and have no need for Rondo.

          One other thing lol, posting updates in here makes it more fun. Gives you a reason to keep playing, and give you another persons perspectives on your moves.
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          • Ferrari997
            Pro
            • Mar 2008
            • 667

            #6
            Re: Anyone got tips on how you stay commited in Association?

            Originally posted by samtw324
            ...and remember, the trade is the killer of many associations...

            So pretty much don't load up an association and trade half of your team before you play one game. If you trade half your team you might as well just do a fantasy draft and pick who you want. But we all gotta trade sometimes, but when you do KEEP IT REAL.

            My most recent trade for instance:

            Bulls(me) Receive:
            61 OVR Shaun Livingston
            62 OVR Donte Greene

            Kings Receive:
            68 OVR CJ Watson
            '11 1st Round Pick via Bobcats

            Bobcats Receive:
            71 OVR Jason Thompson

            Notice how the highest rated player in the whole trade was a 71 OVR, and I didn't receive him.

            And think through a trade. For instance in my trade the Kings starting PG tore his MCL and was out for the season, so I gave them my PG. Jason Thompson was furious with his role, so I had them trade him to the Bobcats who lack depth at PF. The Kings also recieved a 1st round pick to help them rebuild. For me, CJ Watson just wasn't getting it done so I traded for a lesser PG Livingston and SF that gives me good size in Greene.

            When making trades don't do something like rondo to the jazz for jefferson and millsap. the jazz already have williams and have no need for Rondo.

            One other thing lol, posting updates in here makes it more fun. Gives you a reason to keep playing, and give you another persons perspectives on your moves.
            how were you able to pull off that trade? I have yet to be able to execute a three team trade. they seem harder this year

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            • Weeks
              L Corleone
              • Aug 2009
              • 2990

              #7
              Re: Anyone got tips on how you stay commited in Association?

              The salaries matched up and Beno Udrih was out for the season with a torn MCL which left the kings best remaining pg at a 61. I'm not sure if the AI is smart enough to know about trading to replace an injury but it worked. I also am not sure if they are more willing to deal someone because their morale is low because jason thompson was very mad. It was legit though, no reason to use trade override on that small of a trade anyway.

              The key is making sure the salaries match up, the bulls(me) and the kings both have a lot of cap room.
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              • algeron04
                Rookie
                • Sep 2008
                • 204

                #8
                Re: Anyone got tips on how you stay commited in Association?

                Originally posted by Ferrari997
                how were you able to pull off that trade? I have yet to be able to execute a three team trade. they seem harder this year
                You have to see the other teams needs, and trading is not easy, you have to match salaries which can be a deal breaker on some trades. Everything that has been posted in this thread is true. You hear guys complaining how everyone on their team wants minutes and how they turn off roles and chemistry, they do that because they load up their teams with a bunch of 70+ guys (minus drafted players) and just to destroy the CPU. And that's not fun winning every game by 10-20 points. The game is supposed to be hard at times. Also use the trade finder I like that, but sometimes the CPU will offer dumb trades and for the sake of keeping a real feeling association dont accept dumb trades. One last thing I keep trade override on so if the CPU does a dumb trade with the CPU then I can reverse the trade. Rebuilding bad teams is fun and very challenging at the same time.

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                • VideoTyrant
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 74

                  #9
                  Re: Anyone got tips on how you stay commited in Association?

                  I have a problem staying committed to franchise/dynasty modes as well, when I'm not running one with a friend. The only times I have gone multiple seasons in a franchise mode was because I did it with a friend or two and created the fun dynamic of division races or what not with them. The 82 games does make it hard I think the only sports I have successfully gone multiple seasons in was NFL and College Hoops 16 and a little over 30 games respectively.

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                  • Da Amba Lamps
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 295

                    #10
                    Re: Anyone got tips on how you stay commited in Association?

                    I actually have gone the other way I have a hornets team that I di a challenge with andin year 3 I have wall, lee kemp, francis york, eric cameron, ciro herrera, with jack and ariza and mbah a moute as my first three off the bench. My starters are 93, 87, 94, 87, 79. Ijust figured out how to play with wall and omg. But to play with that group is a joy, I've tried using other teams but I'm emotionally attached to kemp and cameron

                    But I stay playing only when I'm emotionally invested, ie the hornets kemp, york, cameron are the cornerstone of my franchise and guys who I want to see what happens
                    Last edited by Da Amba Lamps; 12-15-2010, 11:02 AM.

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                    • matthewj
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 285

                      #11
                      That's the most difficult part. You need to find a reason to attach yourself to your team. Making trades is risky business cause if you make the wrong move you could lose the emotional investment in the team. I traded for Westbrook in my association with the Pistons and as far fetched as it seems it gave me a reason to wanna keep running my association. I want to make him a superstar and have a legit MVP chance and lead the team somewhere. I also impose my own hard cap on myself in the off season. They let you go to 90 but at no given time will I go over 66 million. It forces me to make decision on younger players and place more business decisions in what I do. In turn it makes it more harder to find a rotation I know ill be able to keep together.

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                      • Matty Aqua
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 1298

                        #12
                        Re: Anyone got tips on how you stay commited in Association?

                        This is good stuff!,i agree with all that is being said im definatly attached to my Raptors players like Derozan-Weems-Bayless-Ed Davis-Alabi-Amir Johnson ill keep building around i could definatly use some more talented players and a legit superstar!...But im Rebuildnig the Raptors through the draft...i think simming some games is a good idea in a 82 game season

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                        • DRose_BRoy17
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 7

                          #13
                          Re: Anyone got tips on how you stay commited/keep balance rosters in Association?

                          [QUOTE=Buke14;2041939104]I always am good through like 5-8 games but can never make it full 82. So to combat this I'm going to switch to 29 games but my main issue is something I need some kinda tips on.

                          1) During FA/Drafts I always end up with players that should be starters/6th man so I end up with like 4+ role players. What kinda tips should I try to follow to avoid having too MUCH talent.


                          I have my association season to 82 games, but what i do each month I play half games of the games for that month. I look at which games I would like to play the most first you know against the Lakers, Celtics, Heat. The Prime Time games I like to call them. Then however many games you got left to make half
                          go for the away games against the decent teams, cause since their is a big help when teams are home when you sim, the away games will be more challenging and will keep you on your toes.

                          So far as FA/Drafts, look at what you need help with from off the bench. Do you need more rebounding? Do you need some more sharpshooters? Do you need more inside defense? the possibilities are endless. Players don't have to be 70 overall to be good, they just have to be really good at one thing that could help your superstars shine.

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                          • timbeau0805
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 650

                            #14
                            Re: Anyone got tips on how you stay commited/keep balance rosters in Association?

                            If I didn't have some weird problem that required me to play every game, it'd be a lot easier for me.

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                            • infamyice
                              MVP
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 2654

                              #15
                              Re: Anyone got tips on how you stay commited/keep balance rosters in Association?

                              Originally posted by samtw324
                              1. SIM Games
                              2. Find a slider set that you enjoy playing with
                              3. As hard as it may be RESIST the urge to sign 70+ OVR guys if they aren't going to start or be 6th men.
                              4. Play it realistically, if a ridiculous trade offer comes up like D. Wade for Devin Harris and Troy Murphy, and your the Nets, don't accept it.

                              Think like a GM! Not a guy who is trying to get a team of all 70's.

                              PS. A lot of people will sign young players who are easy to trade for and progress a lot, go for older guys on the decline sometimes to even it out.

                              EDIT: So pretty much resist trading for guys like OJ Mayo who will one day be a 90 ovr, if you have a hole at shooting gaurd and need scoring go for Ray Allen who is still effective but slowly declining. In 2K it's to easy to build a good team, you have to resist the urge.
                              I gotta co-sign this. And top it off, a little trade I picked up is after building a scrub team to an elite team, I resign and start all over with another team in the same association. It prevents from just starting all over. So not only that you're building a team to play with, you're building a team you can play against.

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