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I agree and disagree.

There are cheaters. Ppl who blatantly use exploits and glitches to win. They are who we thought they were. No changing it, they prolly do this in every single video game they own.

Then, there are players who do what the games lets them. They don't 'know' they are cheating. They know the crossing pattern works, they know that the toss play works. The lead pass works on 2k.....so these are the things they use to win. But, they don't know they are exploiting the game...they just are doing what they know works. If they get tired of losing, they may change.

But due to the casual amount of players, they will be able to compete with this style and wont mind losing every know and again to a better player. And at the same time, the amount of casual players will lead to our frustration b/c of the same lack of skill and strategy. You pretty much have to take the good with the bad.

But there, needs to be some more identifiers of how you opponent plays pre-game.