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Originally Posted by khaliib |
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From the responses, I can tell most if not all or you never played at the collegiate level (I'm not talking about Jr College either). I laugh at people who make the GOOFY statement " they got a Free education". The schedule of a Collegiate athlete is more demanding than most "FANS" can comprehend.
People forget the the NCAA is not part of the educational system. It's a private institution that makes billions and makes millioniars of a select few. The money they say they give to the schools never make it to the athletes or students of the University. After the Presidents and Trustees take their piece, little is left, which must be distributed across all sports. Again, that scholarship is not FREE. Your're basically in Bootcamp while being an athlete. The part folks don't talk about, is how athletes are now being required to stay and train during college breaks. Many of you who make these dumb statements, make them because you've never experienced the grueling schedule and you think it's a piece of cake.
It's easier getting a shot at the Pro's, then trying to make a college team and obtain an Athletic Scholarship.
Also, anyone who a brain knows that just becuase you get a degree, doesn't mean your going to have a job after graduating. We all know of someone that got their degree, only to be working at Blockbuster Video etc...
The part they don't tell you is that after you get that degree, your're going to be greeted with "We're looking for someone with ? years of experience"!
BTW, it would bother you to if you looked around and saw NCAA Administrators making six figures, University President and AD's making six figures and coach's making millions of your athletic ability. But when your done, you don't even exist.
I say to any athlete in this situation, get yours, because everyone else (including fans) made out on your abilities!!!
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I had to respond to this... especially since I'M the one that made the "goofy" statement about a free education..
Now correct me if i'm wrong but in order for these guys to even play college sports, you have to receive a sports scholarship right OR make a team as a walk on correct?? Tell me this.. What university would give someone a sports scholarship and NOT REQUIRE THEM TO ATTEND CLASSES?? You still have to make the grades to stay eligible to play sports. So.. Education IS apart of the athlete experience that's why they are called... SURPRISE!!! student athletes!!
Point #2: You say the monies the NCAA receive never reach the athlete or the students themselves. Well I don't know if you know this but the athletes DON'T SUPPOSED TO GET PAID!! They are amateurs and the students DO see the monies but in different ways i.e. better facilities, new libraries, and various other projects. Plus there is a law enacted back in 1972 called Title IX, heard of that??
So the girls got to get there's too.
Point # 3: You talked about the RIGORS and the GRUELING schedule these guys have.
Look nobody is making these guys do anything they dont want to do.. Like Dan Hawkins said in his infamous “This is Division I college football”rant... If you want time off to go on the family summer vacation to the GRAND CANYON, then go play JV or intramurals brother. You are an ADULT!! If a kid is projected to go high 2nd round and he got people in his ear TELLING HIM THIS, and they keep telling him to keep puttin in the work, get better, get stronger, you know what, hes gonna participate in those workouts OR dont participate and lose your starting job to an incoming frosh that WANTS to put in the work??
Another thing, last time I checked, this is AMERICA, you have a choice. Nobody said that this a piece of cake but if life as a student athlete is too tough, just become a student then... yeah right.
Point #4: You said its easier..EASIER getting a shot in the pros than making a college team.
K im sorry but this comment right here, you lost ALL credibility with me and probably everyone who read your statement. Think about this, You mean to tell me and others on this board that a 18 year old kid, who received a basketball scholarship from UCLA, a first year starter DIAPER DANDY, has a better chance and go “nah, Ill drive 25 miles down to the El Segundo Sports Center, where the Lakers and Clippers train, tryout with one of them and make their roster instead??? Are you serious?? Are you for real?? Even the Clippers, as bad as they are (right now) STILL have 12 guys better than him!!!! Cmon man...
Point #5: You said that just because someone has a college degree doesn't guarantee you a job.
Your right about that sir!!! I mean look at our country right now.We have a lot of smart, talented , knowledgeable and EDUCATED people right now sittin at home because the economy is so bad. As far as former student athletes go, if the real world dont work out, get a job in the world you DO know.. Become a coach, high school, college, anywhere. Use your knowledge about a sport and become a mentor, help someone else like someone helped you. Two things about the whole degree thing. I know someone who played college athletics,got a diploma, and couldn't find a job. I asked him what did you major in.. AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDIES. What type of job your gonna get with AA studies on your resume?? Some of these athletes poor planning are to blame because a lot of them DONT have plan Bs, they all think they gonna turn pro and dont worry about things like that.
Jersey wasnt angry with your response, I think he was more dismayed ,like myself, by someone actually playing the woe as me athlete card. Besides you brought all this up, you didnt think anyone on here was gonna respond to your statements?? Thats why people love this place!!!
You said some other things about ADs and such but I do want to say something about the school presidents. These guys make six figures, some seven, for a reason. They are the CEOs of the their institutions. They are responsible for EVERYTHING concerning that institution. Some of the guys are Doctors, lawyers, and some of the very best and highly respectable minds this country has to offer.
They are making their money. In closing, lastly you said some of us dont know what its like to be college athletes, your probably right some of us dont know. I know I dont. But you know what K, we dont have to know what its like. With all the info that bombards us, we know the lives of student athletes more than you know. I DO know that sports fans that has watched sports a long time knows what goes on on “both sides of the fence”. The kids get their SUVs in their mommas name, new clothes, whatever they need they will have it. I mean there was an awesome 30 for 30 that premiered this past week on the athletes at SMU. At the end of that show, like Musberger said, they still keep score on Saturdays... and the schools are ALWAYS looking for kids to make those scores and that will NEVER CHANGE.
One final note, if you are “worried” about your likeness?? go to VALDOSTA STATE... Heck even VANDERBILT is on SOMEONES TV every week....
So what...
Ben
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