Former Tennessee Basketball Player Bobby Maze sues EA/NCAA

[shyvoodoo]

Re: Former Tennessee Basketball Player Bobby Maze sues EA/NCAA

From the responses, I can tell most if not all or you never played at the collegiate level (I'm not talking about Jr College either). I laugh at people who make the GOOFY statement " they got a Free education". The schedule of a Collegiate athlete is more demanding than most "FANS" can comprehend.

People forget the the NCAA is not part of the educational system. It's a private institution that makes billions and makes millioniars of a select few. The money they say they give to the schools never make it to the athletes or students of the University. After the Presidents and Trustees take their piece, little is left, which must be distributed across all sports. Again, that scholarship is not FREE. Your're basically in Bootcamp while being an athlete. The part folks don't talk about, is how athletes are now being required to stay and train during college breaks. Many of you who make these dumb statements, make them because you've never experienced the grueling schedule and you think it's a piece of cake.

It's easier getting a shot at the Pro's, then trying to make a college team and obtain an Athletic Scholarship.


Also, anyone who a brain knows that just becuase you get a degree, doesn't mean your going to have a job after graduating. We all know of someone that got their degree, only to be working at Blockbuster Video etc...

The part they don't tell you is that after you get that degree, your're going to be greeted with "We're looking for someone with ? years of experience"!

BTW, it would bother you to if you looked around and saw NCAA Administrators making six figures, University President and AD's making six figures and coach's making millions of your athletic ability. But when your done, you don't even exist.

I say to any athlete in this situation, get yours, because everyone else (including fans) made out on your abilities!!!

I had to respond to this... especially since I'M the one that made the "goofy" statement about a free education..
Now correct me if i'm wrong but in order for these guys to even play college sports, you have to receive a sports scholarship right OR make a team as a walk on correct?? Tell me this.. What university would give someone a sports scholarship and NOT REQUIRE THEM TO ATTEND CLASSES?? You still have to make the grades to stay eligible to play sports. So.. Education IS apart of the athlete experience that's why they are called... SURPRISE!!! student athletes!!

Point #2: You say the monies the NCAA receive never reach the athlete or the students themselves. Well I don't know if you know this but the athletes DON'T SUPPOSED TO GET PAID!! They are amateurs and the students DO see the monies but in different ways i.e. better facilities, new libraries, and various other projects. Plus there is a law enacted back in 1972 called Title IX, heard of that??
So the girls got to get there's too.

Point # 3: You talked about the RIGORS and the GRUELING schedule these guys have.
Look nobody is making these guys do anything they dont want to do.. Like Dan Hawkins said in his infamous “This is Division I college football”rant... If you want time off to go on the family summer vacation to the GRAND CANYON, then go play JV or intramurals brother. You are an ADULT!! If a kid is projected to go high 2nd round and he got people in his ear TELLING HIM THIS, and they keep telling him to keep puttin in the work, get better, get stronger, you know what, hes gonna participate in those workouts OR dont participate and lose your starting job to an incoming frosh that WANTS to put in the work??
Another thing, last time I checked, this is AMERICA, you have a choice. Nobody said that this a piece of cake but if life as a student athlete is too tough, just become a student then... yeah right.

Point #4: You said its easier..EASIER getting a shot in the pros than making a college team.
K im sorry but this comment right here, you lost ALL credibility with me and probably everyone who read your statement. Think about this, You mean to tell me and others on this board that a 18 year old kid, who received a basketball scholarship from UCLA, a first year starter DIAPER DANDY, has a better chance and go “nah, Ill drive 25 miles down to the El Segundo Sports Center, where the Lakers and Clippers train, tryout with one of them and make their roster instead??? Are you serious?? Are you for real?? Even the Clippers, as bad as they are (right now) STILL have 12 guys better than him!!!! Cmon man...

Point #5: You said that just because someone has a college degree doesn't guarantee you a job.
Your right about that sir!!! I mean look at our country right now.We have a lot of smart, talented , knowledgeable and EDUCATED people right now sittin at home because the economy is so bad. As far as former student athletes go, if the real world dont work out, get a job in the world you DO know.. Become a coach, high school, college, anywhere. Use your knowledge about a sport and become a mentor, help someone else like someone helped you. Two things about the whole degree thing. I know someone who played college athletics,got a diploma, and couldn't find a job. I asked him what did you major in.. AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDIES. What type of job your gonna get with AA studies on your resume?? Some of these athletes poor planning are to blame because a lot of them DONT have plan Bs, they all think they gonna turn pro and dont worry about things like that.

Jersey wasnt angry with your response, I think he was more dismayed ,like myself, by someone actually playing the woe as me athlete card. Besides you brought all this up, you didnt think anyone on here was gonna respond to your statements?? Thats why people love this place!!!

You said some other things about ADs and such but I do want to say something about the school presidents. These guys make six figures, some seven, for a reason. They are the CEOs of the their institutions. They are responsible for EVERYTHING concerning that institution. Some of the guys are Doctors, lawyers, and some of the very best and highly respectable minds this country has to offer.
They are making their money. In closing, lastly you said some of us dont know what its like to be college athletes, your probably right some of us dont know. I know I dont. But you know what K, we dont have to know what its like. With all the info that bombards us, we know the lives of student athletes more than you know. I DO know that sports fans that has watched sports a long time knows what goes on on “both sides of the fence”. The kids get their SUVs in their mommas name, new clothes, whatever they need they will have it. I mean there was an awesome 30 for 30 that premiered this past week on the athletes at SMU. At the end of that show, like Musberger said, they still keep score on Saturdays... and the schools are ALWAYS looking for kids to make those scores and that will NEVER CHANGE.

One final note, if you are “worried” about your likeness?? go to VALDOSTA STATE... Heck even VANDERBILT is on SOMEONES TV every week....
So what...

Ben
Voodoo

[smithdynasty]

You get a free education for playing basketball because you're a Good Basketball Player! All things Equal, THE SAME GOES FOR A STUDENT THAT IS REALLY SMART, not the academically average students that are complaining on this forum. If you are a very intelligent student you can get a full scholarship AND A STIPEND. Which means you're getting paid to go to school. Juxtaposed to college athletes who can't even get GRADUATE SCHOOL paid for when their eligibility is exhausted after all the money they made for their respected schools. THATS A SHAME.

[southzeztpdot]

You get a free education for playing basketball because you're a Good Basketball Player! All things Equal, THE SAME GOES FOR A STUDENT THAT IS REALLY SMART, not the academically average students that are complaining on this forum. If you are a very intelligent student you can get a full scholarship AND A STIPEND. Which means you're getting paid to go to school. Juxtaposed to college athletes who can't even get GRADUATE SCHOOL paid for when their eligibility is exhausted after all the money they made for their respected schools. THATS A SHAME.

^how many NCAA athletes have you even heard of talking about going to graduate schools? If they are thinking about graduated schools more than likely they are already intelligent students and wouldn't even be apart of this dumb law suit. Being an athlete gives you a lot more advantages than just paying for your classes you get free housing(the BEST housing you can receive on any campus at that), free meals, free REQUIRED tutoring at the SAAC which means you have NO REASON to fail any classes, AND you usually get money back from the school for your refund. They have no expenses in college you arent guaranteed a job out of college or a shot in the pros but you should of probably not depended on making it big time for your source of "real" income and not a silly lawsuit.

[JerseySuave4]

I will pray for peace through your anger you were not gifted with abilities to be a college athlete.

Your statement about "Administrators of a University getting paid for the job assigned to them", well I would say go say that to any instructor at any University and see how they feel about such a statement.

Anyhow, this site is not about our stance, but about video games.
So I will not respond anymore.

I did not play sports in college because my grades were not the best so instead of going to schools that were recruiting me to play football i chose to go to a school that wasnt so i could focus on my grades. And i wasn't some mediocre bum player that couldn't play if i wanted to. I'm on rivals100, i was recruited by Rutgers as well as some other schools. But i also had a brother who did go to college of a full ride for football and he was the solo captain of his team his senior year. Ive seen what its like to be a college athlete. He would tell me how the guys on his team would take the money they were given each week or month for their stipen and use it on things like cars or other stuff instead of books & food like its supposed to.

I coach high school football and ive seen the kids ive coached go on to play college football. So get off your high horse thinking you were special because you played a college sport.

Bobby Maze isn't complaining because the demands of being a student athlete were too tough. He's just pissy because he never made it to the next level and now doesnt have the money he thought he would so he's gotta point the finger somewhere.

and to piggyback off of what voodoo said, when you said its harder to make a college sport than it is pro just shows you have NO idea of what you're talking about. Look at each sport, NFL you have a 53 man roster. I played against a kid in High School named Jesse Holley. We owned him in football but he was a good football player and a better basketball player. He was one of the best basketball players in the state. He had offers from all over the place. He went to UNC on a football scholarship and walked on in basketball. He had a less than stellar football career there and was only on the basketball team a couple years (including when they won a NC) but he rode the bench and would only get in during blowouts. But for football he was a starter for a Division 1 football program. They went to a bowl game and he got to receive some pretty expensive and cool gifts just for making a bowl game. Then came the pros, he failed to make it as a pro, went on a tv show 4th & Long and won that to get a shot with the Cowboys and still couldnt make their roster.

Go look at a college football sideline compared to an NFL sideline and see how many more players are dressed. Take the 4th or 5th best player on just about any college basketball team in the country and that guy wouldnt even make an NBA roster.

Also, you cry about just because you have a degree doesnt mean you get a job. Well welcome to the REAL WORLD! You know how many college students that don't play a sport struggle to find jobs? Playing a sport actually is more helpful when finding a job because the person interviewing you might be an ex-athlete or your experiences as an athlete can be something they find appealing as opposed to someone is only a student. And as voodoo had said, a lot of college athletes just pick the easiest major possible thinking they'll coast through college, get a degree and go on to the pros and then theyre stuck with a degree in some b.s. major that won't help them at all.

You're using athletics as an excuse to be academically inferior. How many student athletes out there are able to maintain high grades while playing a sport. Every football season you're hearing stories about kids that graduated college early or are maintaining a perfect GPA or some other impressive accomplishment. How come they can do it and others can't? So using athletics as an excuse is meaningless.

If your eligibility is exhausted why would you expect your graduate school to be paid for? Your education is paid for while youre a student athlete. They are essentially paying you the money it would cost for tuition, books and room & board for you to play a sport for them.

Maybe they should just take away the idea of giving scholarships to athletes and just pay them equally instead. Wait then that'd mean the backup long snapper for Auburn would be getting paid as much as Cam Newton? Or are we supposed to pay based on performance? Then if you take away scholarships and pay the kids instead there will be more crying about how they have to pay for room & board, books, tuition.

[Dazraz]

EA have tried to make their NCAA games as realistic as possible, not because they want to cash in any individual, but because the consumer likes to have a degree of authenticity in their game.
Does Mr Maze actually think that if he were portrayed in the game wearing a number 4 the sales of the game would crash?
The players in the NCAA games are woefully generic. Other than skin colour, jersey number & a heap of ratings there is not much that distinguishes individuals within the game let alone claiming them to be a true representation of an actual individual in real life.
I just hope EA win these cases & the whole saga is put to bed.

[hawkeye2188]

Looks like somone needs some money.