Does anybody else have trouble getting sacks using the 3-4 defense. I play on my skill and it seems like getting sacks in the 3-4 defense is impossible. My defense always ranks top 3 in the league but I can't getting sacks. I thought maybe switching my defensive philisophy from 4-3 to 3-4 would help but apparently not.
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Unfortunately, Madden never is, never was, and probably never will be designed so the 3-4 will work. -
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I'm interested in this too. For some reason, they've never been able to get the elite OLBs to dominate in the pass rush. Whether you're playing 3-4, or 4-3, it's the DEs that put up the sack numbers."A man can only be beaten in two ways: if he gives up, or if he dies."Comment
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What i do is use the multiple d playbook. So i start with the 4-3 to get the offense thinking coverage but then about halfway the the 2nd u can blitz with the 3-4. Throw in a little 46 tooTEAMS:
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All you need is big DEs and a big DT that are terrible at getting away from blockers, and use them as "defensive blockers" for your fast linebackers. Managed to get 13.5 sacks with Shaun Phillips (LOLB) and 10 sacks with Von Miller (ROLB) in one season in franchise.Comment
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try shifting your DL at the last second toward the side of the LB that is blitzing. i have found a decent amount of success with this as my LB comes off clean at times. whether he gets there in time or not is more dependent on the offensive play call, the QB dropback, and the coverage.Comment
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On of the things that will help is to re-blitz your LBERS- they then come straight down and are not as easily picked up.Comment
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I have had trouble with the PC controlled blitzers pulling up lame just before they hit the QB. When I watch the replays, the blitzer runs in gets to the QB, then the QB throws the ball, afterwards he is hit by the PC player.
Overall there is a poor physics engine in the game for this. Yes there are passes that come off wobbly, but overall a QB getting hit doesn't effect the passer that much.Comment
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I use the 3-4 with the chargers. I traded for Haynesworth and have him & Castillo at end. I generally user control a coverage ILB and don't play the pass rusher. During the first year with Haynesworth I had him playing RE and Shaun Phillips led the league in sacks from ROLB.
In the off-season I added a different RE and moved Albert to NT. Through the first 6 games Phillips had no sacks. After moving Hayneworth back to end Phillips started putting the pressure on again.
So the moral of the story is have a strong good end to draw the defense away from your OLB.Comment
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Fortunately, the 3-4 in Madden 11 works like a 3-4 should. The difference - DOUBLE TEAM BLOCKS. There ARE MANY offensive plays that assign a double-team to the NT, but uf your opponent isn't using those plays it will be difficult to free your outside rushers to get pressure.
IMO, In order for the 3-4 to work properly, you need to draw a double-team block OR occupy 2 blockers at the NT position. If you don't, it simply does not work as a defensive scheme.
You will need a HUGE NT... I'm talking Ngata or Wilfork size who are key in stopping the run. If they get pushed backward, the 3-4 is busted. If they get moved side to side, the 3-4 is busted.
When you run your 3-4, look how many blockers are hitting the NT. If it's only one offensive player, consider manually controlling the NT and attacking a gap either left or right of center to force two blockers to deal with you... Thus freeing up other players to get pressure.
After you get the hang of it, you'll see pressure getting into the backfield faster and sack totals going up.
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The best tip I can give though... Don't listen to folks that don't play Madden religiously. They'll always tell you you that you can't do what you want.
When you get advice from guys that play Madden like their lives depend on it (sad as that may seem), you'll get better advice on how to apply your football knowledge to the video game.
The best part is that all football knowledge is useful when playing Madden - although only when that knowledge is applied in the electronic environment. Part-Time Madden players are less apt to know how to apply what they know about football and are more likely to tell you that you can't do something that might have been available in the game for years.
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What kinds of specific attributes do you want in DEs and LBs when using a 3-4 defense?Comment
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I play with the Steelers and usually get 10+ a season with woodley and near 10 with at least one of my other 3 LBs. one key is to make sure that you use your OLBs as DE in nickel and dime formations. Other than that, you need to get creative. Like one guy mentioned, sometimes it's better to use (manually control) one of your big d-lineman as a "blocker" for you LBs. Speed and acceleration are critical for your backers while strength is key for your linemanComment
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