Madden NFL Designers Podcast #3

[LiquorLogic]

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I'd contend that they only need to resolve the defect they introduced with a patch that broke GamePlanning for multiple teams (including CPU controlled teams).

I'd be perfectly fine with the same exact GamePlanning, but bug-free, and I'm sure many others would be as well. To remove the feature entirely would be a disgraceful waste of development time.

The fact that the feature isn't as useful as the offense is already disgraceful. It doesn't make any sense not to account for down and distance on defensive play-calling, and I'll doubt that we'll ever see it considering how much more situations that will need to be added.

[MelR2000]

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Some responses / questions...

- WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC FEATURES FOR MADDEN 12. You hopefully know that by now. Quotes like "Taken together, however, I see them very carefully attempting to set expectations." are just wrong. IT IS DECEMBER, WE HAVE TO BE CRYPTIC. If you are the type of guy that is going to get fired up about not enough talk about specific improvements, then I suggest you don't listen to the podcast.

- Nowhere in the podcast are we saying it's going to take multiple years for you to see any improvements, or that 12 won't have any. See point above, and I can say we have been working on Franchise improvements for some time now.

- "And as far as that "cant make drastic improvements in one cycle" BS....". Where did we ever say that? I 100% believe that drastic improvements can be made in one cycle.

- "I guess after these podcasts, it just looks to me like Madden isn't gonna be a game I'm gonna ever like on these consoles." Does that statement seem a little ridiculous to anyone else? After a podcast that discusses ZERO REAL FEATURE ADDITIONS you aren't going to like Madden, EVER? I always hoped that this forum would eventually be a great place for feedback and ways to improve the game, not the sensationalist extremism that it can quickly descends into.

- There is nothing more frustrating to me than people not actually listening to the podcast but jumping on the opinion bandwagon of another. Please guys, we are spending the time planning and recording these SPECIFICALLY for the Madden community...you could at least give us the respect of listening to it and forming an opinion of your own.

Maybe we should just stop doing these for a while if too many people aren't able to cope with the lack of real information and turn that into a negative thing. That's not what we want out of these at all...we just want to give people a behind the scenes look at the development process and decision making. Thoughts?

I tell you what Ian, first you are right, people should not jump to conclusions, but my experience with Madden has not been good for so long I do have to question EA and their intent. Do they REALLY want to build a great simulation of NFL football? Or do they want to market Madden and make tons of money off the kiddos? I think both, but you guys seem to spend more time on the later.
NCAA11 came out of nowhere this year. You know a game is good when you think about your team and where you are in your season when you aren't even playing the game. The game is that immersive. Madden11 not so much. To be fair I gave up on Madden11 so maybe I didn't play it enough. It just seemed stale to me. I wish you luck and hope someday you can bring Madden back like NCAA11 has been able to accomplish.

[Lambeau 1919]

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If you are gonna delete posts at least dont use a false reason. My whole post was referring completely to the podcast #3. The topic should be changed to Madden Podcast 3 (Constructive criticism banned)

[Indiansbro]

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Idk I couldn't load the podcast, but from what im hearing it sound its goin to take them years to improve the game. Idk im not goin make any assumptions. But what goin to say is that im am disappointed by madden year after year. I used love madden back in the early 2000's. Ever since I got a 360 its been terrible. They took all the things I used to love (Owner mode, player roles, create-a-play, Mini canp, etc.). And add some terrible additions. Then I hear him (Ian) complainin about how people don't like the game or making excuses why it doesn't play right. Make a better product and shut up. You not supposed to alienate the customer. The first rule of customer service the customer is always right, any one who has a job know that. i dont care about little glitches or rocket catches, I understand its video game it not goin to be perfect. But I had to stop playing on all madden because small runnings back would break 5 tackles and go to the house. No matter how I statigize i never stop that (I been playin on all madden since 2003 this is the first year i stoped). The franchise mode is almost the same as 2003 just think about just add the extra point (which was better left undone) and its the same thing. The superstar mode is nauseating. The gameplay is sub-par at best. Dont think Im a not a ***** I almost never comment on these posts but im telling truth. This the first year i sold madden b4 the next came out and i dnt miss it. Madden is cool but not worth 60 every year

In closing, if you like madden buy it, im not about to be the guy to tell you not and really dont care, But i hope they change the game dramtically or I wait till 2013 to buy another football game if the nfl free up the lisence.

[Donny_Moore]

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I'd also like to say that I appreciate the time that Ian, Donny, Josh, and all the other guys put into making this game. I think Madden is finally going in the right direction again, and hopefully we'll get back to having great franchise mode and gameplay like we did in the Madden/2k days.

Believe you are the first to say that, you're welcome. I think they are fun to do. I love talking Madden football with the guys.

But like Ian said, if some of the more Negative Nellie's of the forum basically come on here and try and throw you under the bus for spending the time to give you guys more insight into our process, well then that starts making little sense for anybody to keep continuing. So quit it so we can keep these things going!

[Donny_Moore]

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This podcast did accomplish one thing. I went to gamestop today and got Head Coach 09 for $6. Forgot how much fun I had with that game!

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NICE! I heart that game.

[BlueNGold]

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Believe you are the first to say that, you're welcome. I think they are fun to do. I love talking Madden football with the guys.

But like Ian said, if some of the more Negative Nellie's of the forum basically come on here and try and throw you under the bus for spending the time to give you guys more insight into our process, well then that starts making little sense for anybody to keep continuing. So quit it so we can keep these things going!

IMO you guys shouldn't focus on all the negative talk.

Not saying you shouldn't look at the criticism, because in certain areas it is warranted, but the guys that are just out there to bash anything Madden related or not give out constructive criticism should be ignored by you guys.

Don't let those guys ruin something like this that is good for the community.

[mestevo]

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Looking forward to what was learned from Head Coach (enjoyed their enthusiasm on the topic) and how that reflects in 12s franchise. Disappointed in the response to online franchise, sounds like that's another iteration off from being what they want it to be and/or may not even get any love at all in 12. My use case is 3-4 friends who just want to play their franchises in the same world. We're team builders, so need a functional draft w/out seeing ratings, salary cap, etc.

Thanks for taking the time.

[jbrew2411]

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Donny, Ian, & Josh, thank you for taking the time to do these podcast. Please don't let a few negative people kill this for all of us. I was happy to hear that the franchise mode was going to become a focal point this year and in years to come. It is the one reason I buy Madden. Any improvement big or small will go a long way in my book. I look forward to hearing more about Madden 12. I wish you guys would tell the NCAA team to do the same thing with podcast. I love getting updates on what may or may not happen with the game. Gets me pumped up for the next years game. Once again thanks guys for the info.

[jjsmitty34]

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Hey guys, great podcast I look forward to the future of madden..

But I was wondering about something, can you guys look back at the 2 versions of Front Office Football distributed by EA in 2000 & 2001.

Possibly snag some idea's from those two excellent text based sims? Or are they off limits?

Thanks,

JJ

[TeeDogg]

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I don't give a crap about that opinion...it's just your opinion. We deal with criticism...every hour, every day. I don't want to do them if they aren't reaching their intent, which was to engage the community in a new way. We are trying to just be honest with how things work behind the scenes, but since many don't like to hear that and just turn it into a negative thing, then it isn't achieving the intent.

Ian, madden 11 is one of the best FB titles i have played in years (especialy post patch) lots of rare animations that happen at just the right time and animate realisticly. Keep up your good work man, you are the man that has made madden playable again IMHO.......happy holidays from a 2K diehard