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  • premeteam
    Rookie
    • Jun 2003
    • 191

    #1

    Developing your QB's

    How do you develop your QB's? Do you have them sit for several years or start them right away?

    In my Gators dynasty I recruited Mark Sutton who was the 6th rated QB in the class and rated a 79 OVR. I redshirted him his freshman year and then the next season I brought in the 9th rated QB named Jeremy Chambers who had a cannon but below average accuracy (79 OVR). The next season the two battled it out for the starting job as they each split snaps throughout the majority of the year. I was pulling for Chambers to win but it was obvious that Sutton was the better QB.
    2012 stats
    Sutton 158-271 58% 2,702 yards 22TD 10INT
    Chambers 94-192 48% 1,833 yards 14TD 10INT

    In 2013 I recruited Brian Sims (82 Ovr) who was the #1 QB and the 5th overall recruit in the nation. Think Michael Vick. Again I started the season splitting snaps between Sutton and Sims. I was pulling even harder this time for Sims to win the starting job. However, Sutton once again emerged as the clear cut starter throwing for over 3,000 yards and 28 TD's.

    Finally in 2014 Sutton is the full-time starter and is currently tops on the Heisman watch list after 4 games with 17 TD's and only 1 INT. He will likely finish his career breaking all Gator passing records.

    wondering if you guys have your own method, process or tradition that you have your QB's go through before being anointed the starter
  • Driver80
    Banned
    • Dec 2010
    • 134

    #2
    Re: Developing your QB's

    I usually look for 4 years starters, I like to redshirt them first year they are on the team and start them from there on out. I keep repeating this process. I'll take juco's or decent qb's to be the backups that are still capable but easy to recruit so I don't have to spend a lot of time on them. Usually a 3/4 star prospect who has me #1 on their list and I can get a commit from them early.

    Another thing I like to do for my backup is find an ath with good running skills and c+ throwing power then convert him to qb. I will usually bring him in shotgun and let him run the ball a couple times a game.

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    • Gloves 82
      Pro
      • Oct 2009
      • 739

      #3
      Re: Developing your QB's

      I look for four year starters as well. JUCO players are really just my safety net incase I don't have somebody else. I like redshirting the guys their freshman year and then have them start asap unless they have to start their freshman year.

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      • footballfan4life
        Pro
        • Nov 2010
        • 570

        #4
        Re: Developing your QB's

        Originally posted by Gloves 82
        I look for four year starters as well. JUCO players are really just my safety net incase I don't have somebody else. I like redshirting the guys their freshman year and then have them start asap unless they have to start their freshman year.
        What are JUCO's
        TEAMS:

        NFL: Pittsburgh Steelers
        MLB: New York Yankees
        NCAA: Ohio State Buckeyes

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        • Gloves 82
          Pro
          • Oct 2009
          • 739

          #5
          Re: Developing your QB's

          Originally posted by footballfan4life
          What are JUCO's
          Junior College players. Most players that go to Junior College is for their grades. They go their for a year or two, still play football, and then go somewhere else. They'll come in as sophomores or juniors. Cam Newton was a JUCO player. He started at Florida, then went to JUCO, and now Auburn obviously.

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          • illwill10
            Hall Of Fame
            • Mar 2009
            • 19790

            #6
            Re: Developing your QB's

            Jucos sometimes have higher ratings than regular players. reruited a 4 star RB who was 68 ovr and a 3 star juco rb that was a 72

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            • bclancy
              Rookie
              • Jan 2005
              • 30

              #7
              Re: Developing your QB's

              Originally posted by illwill10
              Jucos sometimes have higher ratings than regular players. reruited a 4 star RB who was 68 ovr and a 3 star juco rb that was a 72


              True but realize they are older and have fewer years of eligibility. Most JUCOs are Jrs - so only two years of PT remain. That same 4* rated 68, if you redshirt, then give him 2 more years to reach JR year eligibility might improve to a 74-84 ovr by the time he only has 2yrs of eligibility remaining.

              Typical rule of thumb is if you need a starter/high rated player, check out the JUCOs. If you can afford to redshirt/build depth, usually is better to go after the non-JUCOs.

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              • DrChevy
                Rookie
                • Dec 2010
                • 40

                #8
                Re: Developing your QB's

                When I take over a job at a program my first task is to bring in a top QB and RB of at least 4-stars and throw them into the fire regardless of what other talent is on the roster. I then recruit 1 QB and RB per year, every year and let the carousel begin. For instance, In my dynasty I am in my 4th year at Auburn. My first year I recruited Lamar Dickson (4* QB - 79 OVR) and Paul Jones (4* HB - 75 OVR). Threw both of them in the fire as true freshmen and now in their junior season I won the SEC and am back in the BCS title game. Dickson is currently rate 91 (64% completion 3100 yds and 24 TD and 3 INTS) and I have seen a dramatic leap in his play between his first 2 years and his 3rd year. Jones had a freshman year (2400+ yds and 32 TDs) and hit a sophomore slump (1200+ yds 16 TDs). Now he is rated 85 OVR and had a storybook year (2500 yds 34 TDs), but finished second in the Heisman.... again UGH!!! Some receiver from SMU (91-overall) had 296 recs, 2997 yds, and 32 TDs, I kid you not.

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                • TheBauerHour
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 99

                  #9
                  Re: Developing your QB's

                  I look for a QB that's going to play all four years. Your QB, along with your offensive line, are good ways of judging what your offense is going to be capable of during the season. I love recruiting balanced QB's. Good arms, proficient accuracy, and can run and make plays with his feet if needed, and with a balanced offensive line that knows how to block both the run and the pass, you're on your way to an unstoppable balanced attack, just make sure you don't get careless throwing over the middle
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                  • Roggie
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1753

                    #10
                    Re: Developing your QB's

                    For me, it all depends on my team. I'm not someone who always wants a 4 year starter. This year in my OD, as UNC, I have RS JR Bryn Renner as my starter (real life player). I recruited the number 2 QB (5 star) guy who came in at 77 overall (now a 79 10 games in from awareness increases). I chose not to redshirt him, as I like having a change of pace QB. I play him at HB and QB, as his OVR at HB is 74, and his awareness, even when at HB, is about as good as my starting HB. He's played solid, and is probably my best HB, averaging around 8 yds per carry (although some have come off of option keepers or scrambles when in at QB). I'm not looking for anybody this season, but next year I will be looking for a solid QB to recruit, redshirt, and grow, as Renner will be in his Senior year with Dailey in his true Sophomore year.

                    Usually, I do like to redshirt my QBs for a season, though. But Dailey had a mid 70's awareness (now at 78), higher than any other QB on my roster. I figured giving him playing time would be better for his growth (Maybe not game wise, but I'm running it realistically). I also love him as a HB, and if his awareness wouldn't get destroyed switching to HB for a year then back to QB, I'd do it. He's by far a program changer, even if I'm struggling this season due to my defensive backs being an embarrassment.
                    North Carolina Tar Heels
                    Virginia Tech Hokies
                    Michigan Wolverines
                    Chicago Bulls
                    Detroit Tigers
                    Detroit Red Wings
                    Detroit Lions

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                    • PDuncanOSU
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 297

                      #11
                      Re: Developing your QB's

                      The ideal QB situation for me is to sign a star recruit at the end of my current starters junior year. If I have a good 2nd string QB, I'll redshirt the stud freshman, make him the starter the next season as a redshirt freshman and hopefully have him start the next 4 years. I'll continue to recruit quality depth, even juco players, then repeat the process and sign another top QB recruit during my starters junior year.

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                      • InspectahDeck
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 127

                        #12
                        Re: Developing your QB's

                        It really depends on the team and the situation you find yourself in. I will post some examples of my online teams.

                        Texas - Garrett Gilbert won the Heisman as a Junior. He decided to comeback and play his Senior season. I had a incoming 5 star QB recruit from Texas prior to his Junior season. So I RS him during Gilbert's Junior season. He has backed up Gilbert during his Senior season. He is going to be the starting QB as a RS Sophomore next season.

                        Iowa - Ricky Stanzi leads my Hawkeyes to the national championship. I'm in a position with a weaker recruiting team so I need to be open to all options. I check out what's available to me and all I can find is a Juco Sophomore QB from Ohio. He is rated as a 4 star prospect has the ability to run and a strong arm at 6'4. I go hard after him week after week. Ohio State has no interest in him as CPU and I finally get on his board and get his commitment. He has been really good his first season as starter.

                        West Virginia - This was a little different seeing I came in during year 2016. I had a Senior QB and a Junior QB and then not much else on my roster. I wasn't able to land a quality player my first full season because it was to late and no quality interest come off season. I go into my 2017 season with 1 good QB on my roster. I check out the recruits and find my best option again is going the Juco route. Another good running QB who can toss the ball around. I get extra lucky in the off season and get a 5 star prospect that I get to RS now. So I let my Juco kid lead me for the next year or two then I have a quality player in the wings for when he leaves.

                        If you are Texas, Ohio State, Florida, USC schools like that I wouldn't bother with Juco players. Because you know your always going to have quality players looking at you. But if your a fringe top school or lower I would take any quality QB you can get your hands. You don't want to end up with your pants around your ankles for passing on a Juco kid and ending up with a 2 or 3 star player who is horrible.

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                        • Kriech23
                          MVP
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 2302

                          #13
                          Re: Developing your QB's

                          Recruiting JUCO's is all I can do at Arkansas State, and I love it. They come in and start for me right away and give me 2 solid years. It's so much better than recruiting a low rated freshman; come in, get redshirted, probably sit a year or two then start. It really just cuts out the middleman. Some of those JUCO guys can be studs (check their ratings).

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                          • kcarr
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 2787

                            #14
                            Re: Developing your QB's

                            I like big armed QBs so when using a smaller school who can't compete in recruiting with the big dogs I will try to bring in guys with big arms and weak accuracy and let them develop. This may not give me great career numbers but it gives me productive players in the long run. If I need a guy to hold me over I will go with either a mobile guy who can create offense for himself or an accurate guy who is ready to start right away but once the stronger armed guy is ready he will start

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                            • TheGamingChef
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 3384

                              #15
                              Re: Developing your QB's

                              I'm not able to recruit 4 year starters with the types of schools I use. I try to land solid 3 star guys or 2 star guys that fit my system well. Usually they will come in with low to mid 60's OVR. I'll redshirt them and have them ride the pine for two seasons or so. Once they get three seasons of development in, I can hope that they'll have broken 80 OVR by the time I'm starting them.

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