MLB 11 The Show Trailer, Box Art and DualShock 3: MLB 11 The Show Edition

[peigone]

Re: MLB 11 The Show Trailer, Box Art and DualShock 3: MLB 11 The Show Edition

One last time...

They are NEW framework (skeletal), you are just accustomed to the textures and their rendering engine.

Could you point me to a link about this new skeletal framework? Because here's an MLB 11 screen I just came across, and the player model looks identical to the previous years -- shoulders are too wide and too square; upper arms are way too short, giving the player a "flipper arm" appearance.

Also, no need to get all defensive. We're adults here, so please let's discuss this like adults.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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That is one screenshot you show has an obscure angle. There are plenty of others that show a big difference. And without comparing it to an MLB10 shot, then there is no weight.

It was out of the mouth of the developer first hand. They are new models.

I come off as aggravated, because no matter how many times we tell people, and the developers tell people they are new models, people overlook "work in progress" and all the comparison photos that show a difference.

The links...

If you can not see the difference, then beauty is in the eye of the beholder I suppose.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...reenshots.html

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...batch-2-a.html

[peigone]

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The Cruz pic looks terrific -- the difference is very apparent as the arms extend further down the body as they should. Thanks.

[sfgiantsfn]

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Well Done Enigma -- those photos look great.

[EnigmaNemesis]

Re: MLB 11 The Show Trailer, Box Art and DualShock 3: MLB 11 The Show Edition

The Cruz pic looks terrific -- the difference is very apparent as the arms extend further down the body as they should. Thanks.

Just wait till you see them in motion, you are going to like what you see... I think.

[nemesis04]

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Well Done Enigma -- those photos look great.

Actually the credit needs to go to jemens as he made those side by side comparisons within those threads.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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Actually the credit needs to go to jemens as he made those side by side comparisons within those threads.

Agreed, just re-posting for the ones who have not seen them yet since they are buried in the other thread.

[AtlBraves09]

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Just wait till you see them in motion, you are going to like what you see... I think.

I believe that the problem is that people heard new player models and directly associated them with new uniform textures or designs. People are looking at the pictures with a lazy eye and only seeing that the uniforms look and fit basically the same without seeing the fundemental differences in the proportions and shape of the players. It is obviously on the main page that shows a catchers view of Cody Ross swinging. His arms are slightly bent at contact while his hands remain inside the ball. Which is perfect and was not seen on the show in years prior to this.

[EnigmaNemesis]

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I believe that the problem is that people heard new player models and directly associated them with new uniform textures or designs. People are looking at the pictures with a lazy eye and only seeing that the uniforms look and fit basically the same without seeing the fundemental differences in the proportions and shape of the players. It is obviously on the main page that shows a catchers view of Cody Ross swinging. His arms are slightly bent at contact while his hands remain inside the ball. Which is perfect and was not seen on the show in years prior to this.

Very good point, and something I totally agree with.

Their rendering engine is the same (and not going to change just because new models are introduced, but small improvements to it that go a long way), and it is GORGEOUS (fantastic textures and lighting).

People can not expect a major change in that look till the PS4. And quite frankly, do not need to, it is still the best looking sports game in the business IMO.

[Russell_SCEA]

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Rounding the shoulders off to eliminate the square-shouldered look is a nice improvement, yes. But JoeRyan is correct here, they're still the old player models. It's a cosmetic improvement, nothing more. The shoulders are still too wide, and the bodies are still too short and squat.

I looked through the comparison screenshots you provided and found it interesting that they generally only show closeups of the shoulders and an improvement to the roundness of the shoulders, but nothing else.

The old player model (skeleton) has been completely removed the game its no longer there. It has been replaced by a completely new skeleton that was built from the ground up.

[bp4baseball]

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The old player model (skeleton) has been completely removed the game its no longer there. It has been replaced by a completely new skeleton that was built from the ground up.

And the tribe has spoken

[EnigmaNemesis]

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The Cruz pic looks terrific -- the difference is very apparent as the arms extend further down the body as they should. Thanks.

Well Done Enigma -- those photos look great.

Here is three more that show how much better the models look!







http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ts-3-more.html

Small image (trying to get a larger one), but you can tell with the new models it is Jeter, even if there was no #2 on the back...

[DJ]

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I like that they have added bars for baserunning ability and speed in the window when you have a runner on base.

[peigone]

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it is still the best looking sports game in the business IMO.

The best looking, sounding and playing game ever, no doubt. And has been for years. And the two things holding it back were the player models and the lack of analog controls, both of which have been addressed.

[Pared]

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The old player model (skeleton) has been completely removed the game its no longer there. It has been replaced by a completely new skeleton that was built from the ground up.

But Russ, I know you work on the game and all, but my eyes say there are no differences!!!

C'mon you know how OS gets this time of year!