Fight Night Champion Quick Clip #2: Bareknuckle Fighting

[fistofrage]

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Graphics look sharp, but my interest is waning.

My interest is pretty much gone. Its pretty clear they opted for this story mode instead of focusing on Career mode that the fans have been begging for for years.

If career mode is the same and the in the ring is basically FNr4 1.1, why would I spend $60 on this instead of the Show?

I'll be interested to see the sales, but I think I'll be getting this next fall when its 39.99 or even 19.99.

Oh well, lets see what gimmick they come up with in 2013 that takes precedence over career mode.

[TheCreep]

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I'm sorry folks, but if you really want a leagues deep boxing game you're going to have to get Hajima no ippo. Thats as close as you'll get at the moment. If you can stomach the graphics, thats the game you want.

In the mean time in between time. FN is the next best boxing game you're gonna get at this point, and it is most definitely NOT half bad if I may say so myself.

This is coming from a dude that is just as obsessive over details and sim style as most of you. I gotta give it to em, FN4 is a very good game. I have no doubts that Champions is gonna be very good.

Look me up, I'll show you how sim FN4 can be if thats what you want.

[callmetaternuts]

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My interest is pretty much gone. Its pretty clear they opted for this story mode instead of focusing on Career mode that the fans have been begging for for years.

If career mode is the same and the in the ring is basically FNr4 1.1, why would I spend $60 on this instead of the Show?

I'll be interested to see the sales, but I think I'll be getting this next fall when its 39.99 or even 19.99.

Oh well, lets see what gimmick they come up with in 2013 that takes precedence over career mode.

Wait, so Career mode hasn't been changed, just that story mode? Ugh.

[fistofrage]

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Wait, so Career mode hasn't been changed, just that story mode? Ugh.

There are a few changes.....Not $60 worth of changes IMO from what I have read. But this looks more like Don King's Prizefighter II instead of the next iteration of the Fight Night series.

[Money99]

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Wait, so Career mode hasn't been changed, just that story mode? Ugh.

Like fistorage said, it looks like Legacy Mode (career mode) has seen a few upgrades. You now have money and you use it to travel to various cities to improve on certain attributes.

But I think a lot of people (myself included) wanted to see a greater leap. We still aren't able to have more than one player in a career mode. Even Evander Holyfield boxing for the Genesis allowed you to control two guys at once.

I'm still reserving judgement when we get more details. I'm hoping some issues have been fixed (ie, after unifying the belts and then losing, will all three belts be dispersed?).

I'm also hoping the jab is more effective as are crosses. Another question mark is how many different types of styles will we see. (The Victorious Boxers series was tremendous in this regard. You could tell right away if you were fighting a brawler, a dancer or a boxer-puncher. Even their strengths and weaknesses were evident within a few seconds).
In FNRd4 everything turned into a phone-booth match. No matter how hard you might have tried to dance and jab, it wasn't very effective because the jab was useless and footwork was non-existent.

But some of the things I'm very excited for are the new controls and how every punch has it's own rating.
And we don't know about the sliders either. For all we know, there's a great set that will be discovered to give a very sim feel.

I'm not all that interested in the Champions Mode, but I'll definitely play it.
However, I'll be mighty disappointed if the Legacy Mode is the same and the Champions Mode gets stale after one go-around.

It's been repeated several times here, but there could be many upset fans crying "FOUL" if EA spent a large portion of their time on a failed mode when they could have used it to give a more robust legacy mode.

And if I may add, compared to other companies such as Take-Two, SCEA and others, EA seems to be really behind offering a robust 'My Player' experience in all their sports.
Boxing and My Player were made for each other. That's why Legacy Mode should be worked on as much as possible.

[JayhawkerStL]

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And if I may add, compared to other companies such as Take-Two, SCEA and others, EA seems to be really behind offering a robust 'My Player' experience in all their sports.

Boxing and My Player were made for each other. That's why Legacy Mode should be worked on as much as possible.

Of course the developer of FN also produced the best "My Player" mode going in sports games. Well, maybe NBA2K11 knocked the NHL series down a peg. But still, those guys get it.

But career mode, as it is now, is pretty much a "My Player" mode. Sure, it can be improved, but it is what it is.

I will say that this story mode they have worked so hard on looks like garbage to me. Maybe I will find it to be great storytelling, and it will be very compelling. But so far, it looks like something I do not want to waste my time on. So I agree, I wish they just beefed up the career mode.

[Money99]

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Of course the developer of FN also produced the best "My Player" mode going in sports games. Well, maybe NBA2K11 knocked the NHL series down a peg. But still, those guys get it.

But career mode, as it is now, is pretty much a "My Player" mode. Sure, it can be improved, but it is what it is.

I will say that this story mode they have worked so hard on looks like garbage to me. Maybe I will find it to be great storytelling, and it will be very compelling. But so far, it looks like something I do not want to waste my time on. So I agree, I wish they just beefed up the career mode.

I guess we'll have to disagree about the BAP mode in NHL11. I found it very shallow. But that's a topic for another day.

I agree that I'm not that excited for the Champions mode. But who knows? It could be great. We'll find out in 3 months I suppose.
I just hope they still found time to iron out some of the issues that plagued Legacy Mode in Rd4.

[Vast]

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I guess we'll have to disagree about the BAP mode in NHL11. I found it very shallow. But that's a topic for another day.

I agree that I'm not that excited for the Champions mode. But who knows? It could be great. We'll find out in 3 months I suppose.
I just hope they still found time to iron out some of the issues that plagued Legacy Mode in Rd4.

I hope so too Money. I just seriously doubt it. This Champions mode is like a magician(EA) using a slight of hand trick so we don't realize what it is thats actually being offered.

There are sooo many different fighting styles in boxing, yet there has been absolutely no talk about improvements to the computer A.I., which was not great in FN4.

The improvements to legacy mode released so far are dissappointing to say the least.
Diet and making weight is still missing in action. For the record there are ways to include this in the game without making it tedious or difficult.

It still seem like Trainers are completely ommited from the Legacy mode. Are you serious??

I'm not a ***** i've been purchasing boxing games for close to 20 years now. I'm just fed up.
In the last 7 years alone, i've purchased Fight Night, Fight Night 2, Fight Night 3, and Fight Night 4, all 1st day purchases.

[TheCreep]

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I hope so too Money. I just seriously doubt it. This Champions mode is like a magician(EA) using a slight of hand trick so we don't realize what it is thats actually being offered.

There are sooo many different fighting styles in boxing, yet there has been absolutely no talk about improvements to the computer A.I., which was not great in FN4.

The improvements to legacy mode released so far are dissappointing to say the least.
Diet and making weight is still missing in action. For the record there are ways to include this in the game without making it tedious or difficult.

It still seem like Trainers are completely ommited from the Legacy mode. Are you serious??

I'm not a ***** i've been purchasing boxing games for close to 20 years now. I'm just fed up.
In the last 7 years alone, i've purchased Fight Night, Fight Night 2, Fight Night 3, and Fight Night 4, all 1st day purchases.

You played victorious road yet? I'm tellin you, thats the game you're looking for.

I'm in japan at the moment, and ya know that was one of the first stops I made was the japanese game spot lol. That spot is my version of heaven. japanese devs pull no punches when it comes to depth. Hajime no ippo victorious road is THE **** period. Its kinda ugly reference the visuals though.

I dont know what they're waiting on to make a PS3 version of it.

FN still suffices though.

[Vast]

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You played victorious road yet? I'm tellin you, thats the game you're looking for.

I'm in japan at the moment, and ya know that was one of the first stops I made was the japanese game spot lol. That spot is my version of heaven. japanese devs pull no punches when it comes to depth. Hajime no ippo victorious road is THE **** period. Its kinda ugly reference the visuals though.

I dont know what they're waiting on to make a PS3 version of it.

FN still suffices though.

I have boxers road 2 for my psp, but that game is in a language i can't understand, and even then its career mode has gotten more playing time from me than all the fight nights combined. If i could read japanese i wouldn't be on here voicing my concerns.