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  • tonybologna
    MVP
    • Sep 2005
    • 9092

    #2131
    Re: Dallas Cowboys War Room

    Originally posted by Krioniq
    Though it's still looking like Jason Garrett's job to lose, the Cowboys are bringing in Todd Bowles from the Miami Dolphins to interview for our head coaching vacancy today.

    I guess he comes on recommendation from Bill Parcells? I honestly know nothing about him.
    I think Garrett is getting the job!
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    • Steve_OS
      Editor-in-Chief
      • Jul 2002
      • 33924

      #2132
      Re: Dallas Cowboys War Room

      Originally posted by Krioniq
      Though it's still looking like Jason Garrett's job to lose, the Cowboys are bringing in Todd Bowles from the Miami Dolphins to interview for our head coaching vacancy today.

      I guess he comes on recommendation from Bill Parcells? I honestly know nothing about him.
      Bowles was the Cowboys secondary coach for 3 years. 05-07, I think.

      I'd be shocked if Big Red didn't get the gig.
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      • Hooe
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2002
        • 21555

        #2133
        Re: Dallas Cowboys War Room

        The Dallas Cowboys have announced a press conference for 2:30 PM EST today.

        While they didn't say what for, a few sources are reporting it's to formally announce Jason Garrett as the new head coach.

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        • tonybologna
          MVP
          • Sep 2005
          • 9092

          #2134
          Re: Dallas Cowboys War Room

          Garret has been officially hired:

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          • untrugby
            Haterade Drinker
            • Aug 2010
            • 1613

            #2135
            Re: Dallas Cowboys War Room

            Originally posted by tonybologna
            im almost as excited as when they hired chan gailey

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            • tonybologna
              MVP
              • Sep 2005
              • 9092

              #2136
              Re: Dallas Cowboys War Room

              Originally posted by untrugby
              im almost as excited as when they hired chan gailey
              Well, does that mean you're happy with the hiring of Garrett or not? :wink:
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              • untrugby
                Haterade Drinker
                • Aug 2010
                • 1613

                #2137
                Re: Dallas Cowboys War Room

                Originally posted by tonybologna
                Well, does that mean you're happy with the hiring of Garrett or not? :wink:
                im not happy about it at all. we need a coach who can win now before romo, ware and witten get out of thier primes. Our defense was all time bad under garrett and we cant score in the red zone. It seems like everyone forgot what the expectations were going into the season. garrett takes a team that was regarded in the preseason as the most talented team in the nfl to a 5-3 record with 3 of those games against backup QBs and all of a sudden hes red jesus. Do we just forget the years hes come up short as an offensive coordinator. They only way this is a good hire is if we get good def and offensive coordinators and garret is not allowed to call the plays.

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                • tonybologna
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 9092

                  #2138
                  Re: Dallas Cowboys War Room

                  Originally posted by untrugby
                  im not happy about it at all. we need a coach who can win now before romo, ware and witten get out of thier primes. Our defense was all time bad under garrett and we cant score in the red zone. It seems like everyone forgot what the expectations were going into the season. garrett takes a team that was regarded in the preseason as the most talented team in the nfl to a 5-3 record with 3 of those games against backup QBs and all of a sudden hes red jesus. Do we just forget the years hes come up short as an offensive coordinator. They only way this is a good hire is if we get good def and offensive coordinators and garret is not allowed to call the plays.
                  Keep in mind the 3 losses were all very close games. He certainly brought a different attitude, effort, and confidence to the team. I think he can get it done. He does probably only have 2-3 years with this team for a Super Bowl run.

                  I think he can do it. Who else in the coaching world would you wanna hire? Cowher didn't mention he'd like to coach the Dallas Cowboys. Gruden appears to be staying in the TV booth. There are no other real solid options. Harbaugh from Stanford was someone I thought about but wasn't even considered. I think Garret can get the job done.

                  We do need another DC though. I don't know who but someone else. Garrett can call the plays. The play-calling got better once he was hired as interim head coach anyhow.

                  The running game was used more and Witten was the go-to guy in the red zone. Witten was really never used much in the red zone the past few years. Especially for getting TD's. I like the hiring myself!
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                  • untrugby
                    Haterade Drinker
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 1613

                    #2139
                    Re: Dallas Cowboys War Room

                    Originally posted by tonybologna
                    Keep in mind the 3 losses were all very close games. He certainly brought a different attitude, effort, and confidence to the team. I think he can get it done. He does probably only have 2-3 years with this team for a Super Bowl run.
                    it wasnt like we had 5 years of bad seasons though it was an 8 game stretch and wade would have still gotten fired had we gone 9-7 or 10-6 and missed the playoffs

                    I think he can do it. Who else in the coaching world would you wanna hire? Cowher didn't mention he'd like to coach the Dallas Cowboys. Gruden appears to be staying in the TV booth. There are no other real solid options. Harbaugh from Stanford was someone I thought about but wasn't even considered. I think Garret can get the job done.
                    i would have at least had a talk with cowher, gruden, fox, billick and fisher (assuming he was to get fired) before making a hire but by all accounts garret was confirmed as the HC before the last game even kicked off. It was jerrys fear of another team snatching garret up that forced him into a hasty decision. Jerry is working his way into the mount rushmore of bad GMs headed up by matt millen, al davis, and aj smith

                    The play-calling got better once he was hired as interim head coach anyhow.

                    The running game was used more and Witten was the go-to guy in the red zone. Witten was really never used much in the red zone the past few years. Especially for getting TD's. I like the hiring myself!
                    but garrett was the play caller before so he has to take that blame too and we still have no chance if we get in the red zone and even a FG isnt guaranteed since Buehler is so inconsistent. We ran the ball more but its still hit or miss and with barber sure to be cut we need to find a feature back.

                    we can argue all day but garrett is (unfortunately) going to be the HC so thats in the past. On a more positive note who do you think well take with our #9 pick?

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                    • tonybologna
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 9092

                      #2140
                      Re: Dallas Cowboys War Room

                      On a more positive note who do you think well take with our #9 pick?
                      That's a good question. I haven't heard anything about the early possibilities. Who knows what we might do with this pick. We are needing in so many areas. Probably defense first. Probably in the secondary first.

                      We also need OL pretty bad but I see us taking defense with the #9 pick. Probably a safety! Alan Ball isn't gonna cut it. Sensabaugh does a pretty good job but nothing great.
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                      • untrugby
                        Haterade Drinker
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 1613

                        #2141
                        Re: Dallas Cowboys War Room

                        there arent really any top 10 OL talents so it will probably be defense. ESPN has us taking patrick peterson CB from LSU so if we take him we have to move either jenkins whos awful at man coverage or newman whos losing a step to safety

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                        • tonybologna
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2005
                          • 9092

                          #2142
                          Re: Dallas Cowboys War Room

                          Originally posted by untrugby
                          there arent really any top 10 OL talents so it will probably be defense. ESPN has us taking patrick peterson CB from LSU so if we take him we have to move either jenkins whos awful at man coverage or newman whos losing a step to safety
                          Peterson would be a solid pick IMO. Newman is getting some age and gets burnt too much. Jenkins just had a bad year. He made too many mistakes and penalties. He can play the position. I believe he just lost confidence once the team was going bad and those mistakes of his own doing.

                          I think Jenkins and Peterson would be a good CB combo. Now, I don't see Newman playing safety. He's never played it nor does he have the body to play it. He certainly has a better body than Allan Ball though. I can't believe we couldn't find a better replacement for him. The problem is Newman's contract is pretty hefty for him to play a backup role at CB.

                          We may try to trade him if we do go after Peterson. Jenkins might be a trade target instead of Newman because of his stupid penalties and critical mistakes. I just think Jenkins has more going and is much younger in age as well.

                          Newmans better days are behind him but Jenkins can get better. Newman used to be a pretty good cover corner but that's not been the case for the past couple years. He's been burned so many times trying to cover WR's. Jenkins is now a better cover corner but needs to cut down on the mistakes. I think Peterson is a great pick at #9 for us.
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                          • untrugby
                            Haterade Drinker
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 1613

                            #2143
                            Re: Dallas Cowboys War Room

                            We cant afford to trade any of them becuase we couldn't get fair value and it would be silly to sit one and put a sub par safety out there. Peterson / Jenkins has the same problem as the secondary we have now they will just pick on Jenkins. Jenkins can improve but he too much of a liability right now if were planning to try for the playoffs next year.

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                            • tonybologna
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 9092

                              #2144
                              Re: Dallas Cowboys War Room

                              Originally posted by untrugby
                              We cant afford to trade any of them becuase we couldn't get fair value and it would be silly to sit one and put a sub par safety out there. Peterson / Jenkins has the same problem as the secondary we have now they will just pick on Jenkins. Jenkins can improve but he too much of a liability right now if were planning to try for the playoffs next year.
                              In my opinion, Newman is more of a liability than Jenkins. Newman can't cover as good as Jenkins. Jenkins may have made more mistakes this past season but I think clearly Jenkins is now a better cover corner than Newman.

                              Jenkins did make the Pro Bowl in 2009 if you remember. Newman hasn't really done much in the past 2-3 seasons. He's just becoming very vulnerable now. I believe this was just a down year for Jenkins. He didn't show much his rookie year but improved drastically after that.

                              I mean many analyst state Jenkins could be a future lock down corner. He was heading that way until this past year. You can't give up on him after just 1 bad season. He's got too many skills. That's why we drafted him in the 1st round. I'd rather see Newman go than Jenkins but that's me! :wink:
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                              • untrugby
                                Haterade Drinker
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 1613

                                #2145
                                Re: Dallas Cowboys War Room

                                Originally posted by tonybologna
                                In my opinion, Newman is more of a liability than Jenkins. Newman can't cover as good as Jenkins. Jenkins may have made more mistakes this past season but I think clearly Jenkins is now a better cover corner than Newman.
                                Jenkins is much more of a liability becuase when Qbs have the choice they will throw to whoever jenkins is covering over whoever newman is covering.

                                Jenkins did make the Pro Bowl in 2009 if you remember. Newman hasn't really done much in the past 2-3 seasons. He's just becoming very vulnerable now. I believe this was just a down year for Jenkins. He didn't show much his rookie year but improved drastically after that.
                                if you remember newman also made the probowl in 2009. They both did becuase our front 7 was so dominant they hardly had to cover before the QB had too much pressure. Jenkins also got dominated in the playoff game against the vikings

                                I mean many analyst state Jenkins could be a future lock down corner. He was heading that way until this past year. You can't give up on him after just 1 bad season. He's got too many skills. That's why we drafted him in the 1st round. I'd rather see Newman go than Jenkins but that's me! :wink:
                                Jenkins might be better than he was this year but hes not going to be a lock down corner. He might have had the potential but he hasnt lived up to it.

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