OS Roundtable: What Do You Think of The Show's Move to Analog Controls?

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  • Blzer
    Resident film pundit
    • Mar 2004
    • 42520

    #61
    Re: No thanks.

    I always passed on MVP because it was a timing-based hitting system. Yes, there was left stick directional influence with the swing but it didn't change the fact that proper timing and pitch location guaranteed contact. This is the case with 2K10 and thusly I didn't play it much this past year. This has slightly been the case with The Show, and thusly I have noted some slight flaws in the hitting system (which is improving year after year).

    I will probably say "no thanks" to right-stick hitting as well. It looks like it will be done the way I would have most anticipated it to be a successful system, but I like having to use my left stick skills to make contact with the ball as well as being able to time it. With their new implementation of a cursor system for The Show '11, I have a feeling I'm going to use that and use the right analog stick for fielding. Pitching is up in the air for now, though. I'll give the right-stick controls a try, but time will tell whether it will be favored over the button-meter style we're all accustomed to with this series.
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    • EnigmaNemesis
      Animal Liberation
      • Apr 2006
      • 12216

      #62
      Re: No thanks.

      You should at least give it a try, before you are ready to throw in the towel.
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      • fhqwhgads
        Banned
        • Dec 2010
        • 29

        #63
        Re: No thanks.

        Originally posted by Blzer
        I always passed on MVP because it was a timing-based hitting system. Yes, there was left stick directional influence with the swing but it didn't change the fact that proper timing and pitch location guaranteed contact. This is the case with 2K10 and thusly I didn't play it much this past year. This has slightly been the case with The Show, and thusly I have noted some slight flaws in the hitting system (which is improving year after year).

        I will probably say "no thanks" to right-stick hitting as well. It looks like it will be done the way I would have most anticipated it to be a successful system, but I like having to use my left stick skills to make contact with the ball as well as being able to time it. With their new implementation of a cursor system for The Show '11, I have a feeling I'm going to use that and use the right analog stick for fielding. Pitching is up in the air for now, though. I'll give the right-stick controls a try, but time will tell whether it will be favored over the button-meter style we're all accustomed to with this series.
        I'm with you there. I will try the analog pitching too. I have always wanted a system where you have to time the ball being released from the pitcher's hand.

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        • CoreyMac
          Rookie
          • Feb 2010
          • 51

          #64
          Re: No thanks.

          Analog for me....Especially for pitching. It adds a new challenge to the game. Analog batting I'll give a shot, but If I have issues check swinging I'll go back to face buttons for hitting because check swings have become a very big part of my game....

          Give analog a shot before you dismiss it completely. It's the one thing I enjoy from MLB 2K baseball personally. There's no reason to be "concerned" with analog hitting and pitching when its simply an option. Its not mandatory.

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          • ChampN252
            Rookie
            • Mar 2009
            • 440

            #65
            Re: No thanks.

            I've never played the show, but my biggest thing will stick hitting is that it make hitting one sided. I had 2K10 (broke) and now 2K6 and hitting home runs is too easy. Choose power swing and make contact. Gone. They may have it worked out better, but I'll be watching this.

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            • Skyboxer
              Donny Baseball!
              • Jul 2002
              • 20302

              #66
              Re: No thanks.

              Originally posted by ChampN252
              I've never played the show, but my biggest thing will stick hitting is that it make hitting one sided. I had 2K10 (broke) and now 2K6 and hitting home runs is too easy. Choose power swing and make contact. Gone. They may have it worked out better, but I'll be watching this.
              I wouldn't base anything about The Show to what 2K has offered....IMO of course.
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              • DickDalewood
                All Star
                • Aug 2010
                • 6263

                #67
                Re: No thanks.

                Originally posted by Skyboxer
                I wouldn't base anything about The Show to what 2K has offered....IMO of course.
                If something does happen that isn't up to par you can be sure SCEA will address it quickly.
                Agreed. MVP was timing based and it is still, to this day, the best hitting system I've ever played. Just makes more sense to me. This change has me very excited.

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                • nemesis04
                  RIP Ty My Buddy
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 13530

                  #68
                  Re: OS Roundtable: What Do You Think of The Show's Move to Analog Controls?

                  The system is not just pure timing only. You still need to navigate the right stick towards the inner, middle and outer third of the plate to have solid contact. The only thing being taken care of for you is the height variation for your swing to meet the pitch. If you are under the impression you are just going to pull back and push forward without making an adjustment left/middle/right based on pitch location, you are mistaken. Remember guys this year your PCI location is much more important for quality contact.
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                  • DickDalewood
                    All Star
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 6263

                    #69
                    Re: OS Roundtable: What Do You Think of The Show's Move to Analog Controls?

                    Originally posted by nemesis04
                    The system is not just pure timing only. You still need to navigate the right stick towards the inner, middle and outer third of the plate to have solid contact. The only thing being taken care of for you is the height variation of the pitch. If you are under the impression you are just going to pull back and push forward without making an adjustment left/middle/right based on pitch location, you are mistaken. Remember guys this year your PCI location is much more important for quality contact.
                    Oh I know... my point is just that I love that it's based all of the timing of a single stick. IMO that just makes a lot more sense. It's essentially the same setup as MVP NCAA, as you had to do the same thing with their system for inside and outside pitches.

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                    • nemesis04
                      RIP Ty My Buddy
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 13530

                      #70
                      Re: OS Roundtable: What Do You Think of The Show's Move to Analog Controls?

                      Originally posted by DickDalewood
                      Oh I know... my point is just that I love that it's based all of the timing of a single stick. IMO that just makes a lot more sense. It's essentially the same setup as MVP NCAA, as you had to do the same thing with their system for inside and outside pitches.
                      Yes, the two systems are very close. The system in MVP tended to be forgiving with regards to contact and right stick placement in relation to the pitch in the zone.
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                      • Joey
                        Pr*
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 1836

                        #71
                        Re: No thanks.

                        I can't figure out why some of you are so close-minded about analog. If you don't like it, you don't like it - simple as that. But to say you aren't even going to try it, I just don't get it. To each his own, but .

                        Originally posted by fhqwhgads
                        Is anyone else slightly concerned with this whole analog hitting and pitching idea? I just think the whole idea of analog controls is completely overrated. MVP NCAA Baseball did this and it was not all that great. The main problem I have with how The Show is incorporating this feature is the fact that it is completely based on timing.

                        While timing is definitely an important part of hitting a baseball, if not the most important part of all, you must also have hand-eye coordination and be able to literally put the bat on the ball. Analog controls completely ignore this important aspect of batting.

                        Therefore, I am saying, "no thanks," to this option right from the start. I'll never even try it, not once. Now on the positive side I love that The Show will have true zone hitting for the first time. This style of hitting is, by far, the most realistic.

                        One of the most frustrating things last year was when you timed a ball perfectly and made solid contact only to see a little dribbler go off the end of your bat. Hopefully this is taken care of with zone hitting.

                        Is anyone else going to jump right in to zone hitting or are you guys going to give analog hitting a shot?

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                        • Mike Lieske Fam
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 9

                          #72
                          bad idea, i'm not dropping another $60, The Show 10 good enough for me.
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                          • Skyboxer
                            Donny Baseball!
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 20302

                            #73
                            Re: OS Roundtable: What Do You Think of The Show's Move to Analog Controls?

                            Originally posted by Mike Lieske Fam
                            bad idea, i'm not dropping another $60, The Show 10 good enough for me.
                            It's never a bad idea to add options. Everything you could do in 10 you can do in 11.

                            Anyways the main reason I'll probably not use analog hitting is they added true zone hitting which is what I prefer.
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                            • BIG CAROLINA
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 1762

                              #74
                              Re: OS Roundtable: What Do You Think of The Show's Move to Analog Controls?

                              How people can be upset or so closed minded about something that is an option is beyond me. Those who do not want it...... Don't use it, you still have the option to use the old hitting and pitching system.

                              Having the analog controls will not hurt or have any bearing on your game for not using it. I never thought I would see the day when gamers did not want options.
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                              • jemens
                                Banned
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 270

                                #75
                                Re: OS Roundtable: What Do You Think of The Show's Move to Analog Controls?

                                All those discussions about analog controls is pure speculation. Maybe we should wait the demo at least, give it a try and then comment it out ?

                                But I as far as I remember, everybody at the Community Event were unanimous that the implementation was right on !!!

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