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  • iCebErgSLiM369
    Rookie
    • Apr 2009
    • 76

    #1

    I love this game but recruiting doesnt make any damn sense....

    Just an example. Player A is a 5 star recruit from Georgia. Im recruiting with a powerhouse like Florida and his top 2 schools are me and Alabama respectively. I have a 400 point lead yet I constantly put in 60 min a week to this recruit. I dont have any success with this recruit whatsoever. Im at the top of his board yet he doesnt like any of my A categories. I unlock almost all pitches to find hes interested in things were not good at. Alabama on the other hand gains on me week in week out yet our programs are similar across the board.

    I get this is just the computers way of distributing recruits and its random but it can work more realistically. Two similar caliber schools should not have completely different responses while recruiting the same player. The point system is there for a reason. I,want to lose out because I didnt recruit smartly and I was edged out by another team. Not becjause the computer decided whatever I do im not getting that player. If a player has you at the top of his board there should be a reason for it. He should be interested in things that your fairly good at. Also Id like to see the ability to pitch more than three things on a campus visit. If I spent the time and found he likes 5-6 things my program has to offer why cant I pitch all of them on his visit. Also if a player likes my coaching experience my coaching prestige should not be a least. That makes no sense.dd
  • jpz
    Rookie
    • Jun 2003
    • 24

    #2
    Re: I love this game but recruiting doesnt make any damn sense....

    In addition to what you said. Its stupid how you can have a guy who you are his top school all year and he doesn't commit. Only to let other schools catch up to you and then commit to another school at the end of the year after you have put an hour into him every week.

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    • fahrenheit
      Rookie
      • Apr 2009
      • 323

      #3
      Re: I love this game but recruiting doesnt make any damn sense....

      Originally posted by jpz
      In addition to what you said. Its stupid how you can have a guy who you are his top school all year and he doesn't commit. Only to let other schools catch up to you and then commit to another school at the end of the year after you have put an hour into him every week.
      But thats realistic, recruits have a favorite all year IRL but are undecided. Sometimes other colleges change his mind and sometimes they don't just like in the game, a lot of recruits leave verbal commits IRL which is something we don't see in the game anymore but to say it isn't realistic is just wrong.
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      • Bullet Sponge
        Pro
        • Sep 2010
        • 828

        #4
        Re: I love this game but recruiting doesnt make any damn sense....

        I'm not sure I agree. Some kids have a natural bias toward a certain school, regardless of everything else. I've had times where I had kids who wanted to come to my school and even putting in just a cursory 10 or 20 minutes a week to them my lead would continue to balloon. I'm not sure this is programmed into the game in exactly that way, but the effect does seem to be some kids just have their heart set on a certain school and getting them out of that is very challenging. But it works both ways (for you and against you).

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        • cOWASs68
          Rookie
          • Nov 2010
          • 175

          #5
          Re: I love this game but recruiting doesnt make any damn sense....

          The "-1" is the worst part about recruiting by far...especially when the #1 team hasn't even offered him a scholarship ALL year...and he ends up committing there.

          Plain and simple.

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          • kingkilla56
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jun 2009
            • 19395

            #6
            Re: I love this game but recruiting doesnt make any damn sense....

            Originally posted by cOWASs68
            The "-1" is the worst part about recruiting by far...especially when the #1 team hasn't even offered him a scholarship ALL year...and he ends up committing there.

            Plain and simple.
            Preach brother preach! Couple that with knocking off 500 points by comparing schools and you still don't move. I'm behind by one I gain 600 and knock off 400 how the he'll did they get a perfect 1001 in their call????? Unfair.

            On a side note, is it me of does Alabama steal eveybodies recruits??? I hate them in the game. They win every championship and get every recruit. Makes me sick! (in JR WWE voice lol)
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            • Wrongway221
              Rookie
              • Jun 2003
              • 30

              #7
              Re: I love this game but recruiting doesnt make any damn sense....

              Good to see I'm not the only one who hates the Tide for this reason.

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              • GGGswim
                Rookie
                • Oct 2010
                • 329

                #8
                Re: I love this game but recruiting doesnt make any damn sense....

                Originally posted by kingkilla56
                On a side note, is it me of does Alabama steal eveybodies recruits??? I hate them in the game. They win every championship and get every recruit. Makes me sick! (in JR WWE voice lol)
                With my now 6* Auburn dynasty I recently started my recruiting season with 15 recruits for my board. Ten had Bama listed 1st or 2nd, and that's not counting the ones where I was not in the top-3 and didn't add them. The top-4 on my list were from the pipeline states (for me) of Cal. and Texas, and three of them had Bama 1st, me 2nd.
                C'mon, not EVERYone wants to go to smelly Tuscaloosa...

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                • Buckeyes_Doc
                  In Dalton I Trust
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 11918

                  #9
                  Re: I love this game but recruiting doesnt make any damn sense....

                  Originally posted by kingkilla56
                  Preach brother preach! Couple that with knocking off 500 points by comparing schools and you still don't move. I'm behind by one I gain 600 and knock off 400 how the he'll did they get a perfect 1001 in their call????? Unfair.

                  On a side note, is it me of does Alabama steal eveybodies recruits??? I hate them in the game. They win every championship and get every recruit. Makes me sick! (in JR WWE voice lol)
                  Sounds like Ohio State. They have won the last 2 NC titles, 3 straight BigTen titles, and always have a top 5 recruiting class. I use Indiana so I play them and recruit against them regulary. I've actually signed players that Ohio State offered a scholarship too.
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                  • Deegeezy
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 5265

                    #10
                    Re: I love this game but recruiting doesnt make any damn sense....

                    How fun would the game be if recruiting went strictly by the math? I like the randomness factor built in it. Sometimes it works in the user's favor, but we don't notice it.

                    Just use your imagination; Kids in real life make perplexing decisions every year on signing day.
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                    • Hellisan
                      Fan of real schools
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 1893

                      #11
                      Re: I love this game but recruiting doesnt make any damn sense....

                      Let me try to explain what -1 is

                      Two different situations you will see -1.

                      - LESS than a full bar..... During the season, when comparing your team to another team, the game rounds any point total (in this case point difference between your team and the other team) to 20. It will show you're 20 points down, 40 points down, 120 points down... etc... UNLESS you're within 20 points. If you are down less than 20 points, it says -1 instead of calling it even or saying 0.

                      - FULL BAR - If more than one team has reached "full bar" status on a player, every team below the leading team will show -1. I think that the team that had a 700-point lead before both teams filled up the bar still has a sizable lead. Is it 700 points of a lead? I don't know. All I know is the only time I've ever lost a player while up by +1 is if it was close going into that situation. Like if I was up by 100 points, when I got the bar filled, then they filled it up, and now it's really close and he could pretty much go anywhere in that situation.

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                      • GGGswim
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 329

                        #12
                        Re: I love this game but recruiting doesnt make any damn sense....

                        Quite often I'll see sizable leads I've got over the 2nd school decrease or disappear ("-1") when a recruit lists me as his soft commit. Is there some explanation for this?
                        My current board has two soft-commits that saw my lead drop from +420 for one while the other (see this much more often) dropped all the way down to +1.

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                        • Hellisan
                          Fan of real schools
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 1893

                          #13
                          Re: I love this game but recruiting doesnt make any damn sense....

                          Originally posted by GGGswim
                          Quite often I'll see sizable leads I've got over the 2nd school decrease or disappear ("-1") when a recruit lists me as his soft commit. Is there some explanation for this?
                          My current board has two soft-commits that saw my lead drop from +420 for one while the other (see this much more often) dropped all the way down to +1.

                          See my post above. Once you get to the "full bar" status you will not see your lead increase any more. You have accumulated all the required points to fill his bar etc. And as they get to full bar they will then be -1. IMO if you had a 420 point lead recently you will be o.k. but just to be safe keep plugging. If it was close before they filled the bar then you might be in trouble.

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                          • GGGswim
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 329

                            #14
                            Re: I love this game but recruiting doesnt make any damn sense....

                            Originally posted by Hellisan
                            See my post above. Once you get to the "full bar" status you will not see your lead increase any more. You have accumulated all the required points to fill his bar etc. And as they get to full bar they will then be -1. IMO if you had a 420 point lead recently you will be o.k. but just to be safe keep plugging. If it was close before they filled the bar then you might be in trouble.
                            I get ya, now. You weren't confusing, I just wasn't understanding the concept (full bar) you were describing. Thanks.

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                            • Isura
                              Pro
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 606

                              #15
                              Re: I love this game but recruiting doesnt make any damn sense....

                              Originally posted by Wrongway221
                              Good to see I'm not the only one who hates the Tide for this reason.
                              I truly hate this team. For 2nd time in 3 years they ruined my national championship dreams. It's season 8 and they are loaded again after 2 down years.

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