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  • big_larry
    Banned
    • Apr 2009
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    #1

    Its time for a new type of quarterback in the NFL

    The days of the Tom Brady's and Peyton Manning's dominating defenses in the are done, especially in the playoffs. In this day and age you can not win with pure pocket passers, you have to have a mobile quarterback. Defenses are too fast and are blitz happy now a days.
    I was just watching the New England v. Jets game today, and it was pitiful to see Tom Brady just sit back there like a statue and take those sacks. Aaron Rodgers would have gotten away from most of the sacks, and he would have ran or bought more time on the plays where Tom was sacked because of good coverage.
    Just look at the QB's remaining in the playoffs..... Aaron Rogers, Big Ben, Jay Cutler, and Marc Sanchez, who escaped out the pocket in the first half of the game today and threw a big first down to Braylon Edwards to setup a score.
    So if Im drafting a QB, mobility would be at the top of my list, I would draft a Cam Newton and coach him to move the pocket while keeping his eyes down the field. These are my observations during these playoffs, if you wanna win championships you have to have a mobile QB.
  • kingkilla56
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jun 2009
    • 19395

    #2
    Re: Its time for a new type of quarterback in the NFL

    I knew before I entered this thread there would be a Cam Newton bomb somewhere in the OP...

    No, Tom Bradys and Mannings, Brees etc will always have priority.
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    • 55
      Banned
      • Mar 2006
      • 20857

      #3
      Re: Its time for a new type of quarterback in the NFL

      Originally posted by big_larry
      ...if you wanna win championships you have to have a mobile QB.
      Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady (x3), Eli Manning, Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer all beg to differ. And that's just this past decade...

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      • z Revis
        Hall Of Fame
        • Oct 2008
        • 13639

        #4
        Re: Its time for a new type of quarterback in the NFL

        And yet the 3 best QB's in the league are pocket passers, have 5 rings combined, 6 MVP's, and 7 SB appearances.....
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        • 12
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          • Feb 2010
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          #5
          Re: Its time for a new type of quarterback in the NFL

          Originally posted by big_larry
          The days of the Tom Brady's and Peyton Manning's dominating defenses in the are done, especially in the playoffs. In this day and age you can not win with pure pocket passers, you have to have a mobile quarterback. Defenses are too fast and are blitz happy now a days.
          I was just watching the New England v. Jets game today, and it was pitiful to see Tom Brady just sit back there like a statue and take those sacks. Aaron Rodgers would have gotten away from most of the sacks, and he would have ran or bought more time on the plays where Tom was sacked because of good coverage.
          Just look at the QB's remaining in the playoffs..... Aaron Rogers, Big Ben, Jay Cutler, and Marc Sanchez, who escaped out the pocket in the first half of the game today and threw a big first down to Braylon Edwards to setup a score.
          So if Im drafting a QB, mobility would be at the top of my list, I would draft a Cam Newton and coach him to move the pocket while keeping his eyes down the field. These are my observations during these playoffs, if you wanna win championships you have to have a mobile QB.
          This is pretty laughable.

          Brady just finished the season with 36 TDs and 4 INTs. I'm no Brady fan, but he's the best QB in the league. He didn't have his best day today, but that happens.

          They said all of this when Vick was drafted as well. Wasn't it Stephen A. Smith who said basically the same thing? Manning and Brady would be the old type of QB while Vick was the future in the NFL... This was nine years ago.

          Not much has changed.

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          • Cardot
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            • Feb 2003
            • 6164

            #6
            Re: Its time for a new type of quarterback in the NFL

            Originally posted by big_larry
            So if Im drafting a QB, mobility would be at the top of my list, I would draft a Cam Newton and coach him to move the pocket while keeping his eyes down the field.
            Larry, is your real name Cecil?

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            • Andrews85
              Pro
              • Jul 2008
              • 855

              #7
              Re: Its time for a new type of quarterback in the NFL

              It really all depends on how good your O-Line is and the play calling for a pure pocket passer. Route running helps too.
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              • 12
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                • Feb 2010
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                #8
                Re: Its time for a new type of quarterback in the NFL

                Also... this "new type" of quarterback that you speak of... Will he win a Super Bowl this year?

                Mark Sanchez
                Ben Roethisberger
                Jay Cutler
                Aaron Rodgers

                One of the above QB's will win the SB this year. All are your prototypical drop back passers. Rodgers is pretty mobile, but I don't see him being this new QB that you speak of.

                They look nothing like this "new type" of QB you speak of. The "new type" of QB was put out in the first round.

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                • Buckeyes_Doc
                  In Dalton I Trust
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 11918

                  #9
                  Re: Its time for a new type of quarterback in the NFL

                  Originally posted by Cardot
                  Larry, is your real name Cecil?

                  Sorry OP, I don't agree with your post at all, especially "if you want to win championships you need a mobile QB."

                  History says otherwise.

                  This new mobile QB you speak of is not in the playoffs anymore.
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                  • Chrisksaint
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                    • Apr 2010
                    • 19127

                    #10
                    Re: Its time for a new type of quarterback in the NFL

                    Originally posted by z Revis
                    And yet the 3 best QB's in the league are pocket passers, have 5 rings combined, 6 MVP's, and 7 SB appearances.....
                    Lol right

                    I can't speak about Manning and Brady cause I don't watch them that much or closely but Brees has great footwork and great subtle moves with his shoulders to avoid sacks. You don't have to be mobile to avoid sacks just have to be great at those little things
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                    • Palo20
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 3908

                      #11
                      You mean like Mark Sanchez?
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                      • Andrews85
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 855

                        #12
                        Re: Its time for a new type of quarterback in the NFL

                        I don't think the OP is only talking about "Vick/Newton" type players. I think he means QB's like Roethlisberger and Rodgers, pocket passers that have the ability to escape from the pocket.

                        I'll take Big Ben over your big 3 any day.
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                        • Cardot
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                          • Feb 2003
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                          #13
                          Re: Its time for a new type of quarterback in the NFL

                          Originally posted by Andrews85
                          I don't think the OP is only talking about "Vick/Newton" type players. I think he means QB's like Roethlisberger and Rodgers, pocket passers that have the ability to escape from the pocket.
                          Did you read the whole post:
                          "So if Im drafting a QB, mobility would be at the top of my list, I would draft a Cam Newton"

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                          • Palo20
                            MVP
                            • Dec 2006
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                            #14
                            Pocket mobility is huge and Brady, Manning, and Brees are 3 of the best. That's good enough for me.
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                            • Chrisksaint
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                              • Apr 2010
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                              #15
                              Re: Its time for a new type of quarterback in the NFL

                              If you're drafting a QB with him having mobility as your #1 skill/priority then frankly you just doomed your franchise. Things like accuracy,arm strength,intangibles,etc should be ranked higher. Cause I think of several players who are great at escaping pressure but would be complete garbage as QBs in the NFL
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