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  • KuruptOwnz
    Rookie
    • Dec 2008
    • 327

    #196
    Re: Madden: Editing Player Ratings in Franchise - Need Your Thoughts

    Originally posted by michapop9
    great stuff, and the injury options as well, good thoughts
    Why? For the sake of and arguement here; why not allow someone to do it year round, not just at set times?

    People who don't want to do it, wont and those who would, will. Why limit it to certain weeks, rather than just allowing it to begin with? Don't use it if you don't want to...

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    • Vizen
      Rookie
      • Nov 2003
      • 288

      #197
      Re: Madden: Editing Player Ratings in Franchise - Need Your Thoughts

      I agree with Kurupt. Since this is for offline franchise, its up to the user how to implement it, so I don't want anyone suggesting restrictions that most people won't agree with...
      E_A_G_L_E_S

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      • michapop9
        Pro
        • Feb 2008
        • 773

        #198
        Re: Madden: Editing Player Ratings in Franchise - Need Your Thoughts

        Originally posted by KuruptOwnz
        Why? For the sake of and arguement here; why not allow someone to do it year round, not just at set times?

        People who don't want to do it, wont and those who would, will. Why limit it to certain weeks, rather than just allowing it to begin with? Don't use it if you don't want to...
        ALL the time would even be better, absolutely theres no argument, more control more often is always better.

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        • KuruptOwnz
          Rookie
          • Dec 2008
          • 327

          #199
          Re: Madden: Editing Player Ratings in Franchise - Need Your Thoughts

          Originally posted by michapop9
          ALL the time would even be better, absolutely theres no argument, more control more often is always better.
          Did you read my initial argument? It was actually for allowing us to change ratings ALL the time and not just for set weeks.

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          • michapop9
            Pro
            • Feb 2008
            • 773

            #200
            Re: Madden: Editing Player Ratings in Franchise - Need Your Thoughts

            Originally posted by KuruptOwnz
            Did you read my initial argument? It was actually for allowing us to change ratings ALL the time and not just for set weeks.
            uhhh... did you read my quote? I was agreeing with you, ALL THE TIME, yes the ability to edit ratings whenever you wanted with no limits, dont know where the disconnect was, it was a pretty simple concept.

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            • chia51
              Banned
              • Jul 2005
              • 1912

              #201
              Re: Madden: Editing Player Ratings in Franchise - Need Your Thoughts

              Originally posted by KuruptOwnz
              Why? For the sake of and arguement here; why not allow someone to do it year round, not just at set times?

              People who don't want to do it, wont and those who would, will. Why limit it to certain weeks, rather than just allowing it to begin with? Don't use it if you don't want to...
              Originally posted by Vizen
              I agree with Kurupt. Since this is for offline franchise, its up to the user how to implement it, so I don't want anyone suggesting restrictions that most people won't agree with...
              Agreed 100% it should be editable whenever... but from my original answer that was quoted to your response... Ian asked "Are there certain time frames we can lock it to?" That's why my response had the weeks outlined... again I believe that I should be able to edit whenever I want.

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              • tcroff808
                Rookie
                • Jan 2011
                • 1

                #202
                Re: Madden: Editing Player Ratings in Franchise - Need Your Thoughts

                This would be a feature that would truly enhance the franchise experience. I would like to be able to edit all attribute ratings. having this feature availalable at any point throughout your franchise would be ideal. As an online franchise player If this is added I hope it makes it to the online mode as well.

                As a quick example I will point out three player overall ratings as they were when madden shipped.

                Arian Foster overall 67 C potential
                Brandon Lloyd overall 70 C potential
                Mike Vick overall 73 C potential

                Now if we fast forward to their current ratings


                Arian Foster overall 92 A potential
                Brandon Lloyd overall 87 A potential
                Mike Vick overall 91 A potential


                As we all know these players had break out seasons. Under the current progression system these players could never achieve these attributes. Even worse after one franchise year in madden these players are most likely to be cut from their respective teams. Realistically Every year we will have players who have monster seasons so this is expected. This tool would be very helpful to make everyones franchise as true to life as it can be.

                This would be a key feature as it shows not only does attributes need to be edited, but also and equaling important the potential rating as it determines the players ceiling going forward

                On another note the gamers who import draft classes from Ncaa think of the potential editing you could do. When it comes to video games anytime you allow the user the ability to customize the game this is a good thing.

                Thank you for your time and dedication in making madden a great experience .

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                • Jarodd21
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 10556

                  #203
                  Re: Madden: Editing Player Ratings in Franchise - Need Your Thoughts

                  Originally posted by tcroff808
                  This would be a feature that would truly enhance the franchise experience. I would like to be able to edit all attribute ratings. having this feature availalable at any point throughout your franchise would be ideal. As an online franchise player If this is added I hope it makes it to the online mode as well.

                  As a quick example I will point out three player overall ratings as they were when madden shipped.

                  Arian Foster overall 67 C potential
                  Brandon Lloyd overall 70 C potential
                  Mike Vick overall 73 C potential

                  Now if we fast forward to their current ratings


                  Arian Foster overall 92 A potential
                  Brandon Lloyd overall 87 A potential
                  Mike Vick overall 91 A potential


                  As we all know these players had break out seasons. Under the current progression system these players could never achieve these attributes. Even worse after one franchise year in madden these players are most likely to be cut from their respective teams. Realistically Every year we will have players who have monster seasons so this is expected. This tool would be very helpful to make everyones franchise as true to life as it can be.

                  This would be a key feature as it shows not only does attributes need to be edited, but also and equaling important the potential rating as it determines the players ceiling going forward

                  On another note the gamers who import draft classes from Ncaa think of the potential editing you could do. When it comes to video games anytime you allow the user the ability to customize the game this is a good thing.

                  Thank you for your time and dedication in making madden a great experience .
                  I was looking for this thread to make sure it gets noticed again.. USERs should have this option in there offline franchise and EA would probably get less complaints from people about players progression in there franchise because if the USER don't like something about a player they can manually fix it themselves.. Add this feature please.
                  https://forums.operationsports.com/f...n-sliders.html

                  PSN: Jarodd21

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                  • Jarodd21
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 10556

                    #204
                    Re: Madden: Editing Player Ratings in Franchise - Need Your Thoughts

                    This would also help with the random draft classes we get imported from NCAA. We can manually go in there and fix the attributes of players projected to go high in the draft that come out terrible when we import them to Madden.
                    https://forums.operationsports.com/f...n-sliders.html

                    PSN: Jarodd21

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                    • khaliib
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 2883

                      #205
                      Re: Madden: Editing Player Ratings in Franchise - Need Your Thoughts

                      Funny how this discussion got started, then quickly got dropped.

                      One thing we know about EA, is that they like to limit gamers editing ability greatly dealing with their Football and Basketball games.

                      The problem with allowing this is that by allowing such open editing, it will reveal how Maxed Out the Game Engine really is.

                      Even Ian said that they have concerned about the impact on the game and how such editing might cause crashes in the game.

                      As much as Ian is trying to change things, EA's Administration thrives on dictating what their customers can and can't do with their games. This allows them to stretch Marketing Strategies to make more money.

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                      • tmac3636
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 13

                        #206
                        Re: Madden: Editing Player Ratings in Franchise - Need Your Thoughts

                        Is editing during season really this high of a priority???

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                        • 43M
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 271

                          #207
                          Re: Madden: Editing Player Ratings in Franchise - Need Your Thoughts

                          Originally posted by tmac3636
                          Is editing during season really this high of a priority???
                          High priority?

                          Its a relatively easy addition. Its not like its something that takes the entire team to work on for a long period of time.

                          And depending who you ask, yes, it is. Until they get progression right, which may never happen, it would be a nice feature to have. Necessary? Not really, but as others have said, it would enhance the experience giving us a chance to fix some of the wacko ratings players get.

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                          • tmac3636
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 13

                            #208
                            Re: Madden: Editing Player Ratings in Franchise - Need Your Thoughts

                            Originally posted by 43M
                            High priority?
                            Its not like its something that takes the entire team to work on for a long period of time.
                            Considering the lack of progress Madden has made on NEXT GEN consoles, it would seem apparent it takes the entire team to implement these little additions instead of making strides towards more realism ON THE FIELD.

                            Originally posted by 43M
                            And depending who you ask, yes, it is.
                            Depending on who you ask, hand towels are also a priority.

                            One step forward, 10 steps back.

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                            • 43M
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 271

                              #209
                              Re: Madden: Editing Player Ratings in Franchise - Need Your Thoughts

                              Originally posted by tmac3636
                              Considering the lack of progress Madden has made on NEXT GEN consoles, it would seem apparent it takes the entire team to implement these little additions instead of making strides towards more realism ON THE FIELD.



                              Depending on who you ask, hand towels are also a priority.

                              One step forward, 10 steps back.
                              Look, I am in no way defending Madden...it should be a much better game than what it is or even aspires to be, but the fact is, this is not a huge addition. The fact that they arent making strides in other areas has little to do with this. This is basically like an on/off switch that needs a little tweaking.

                              Is it the biggest issue in Madden? Far from it obviously, but even if they dont touch it, on field realism simply isnt going to improve much with the current engine they are working with. Even if they devote every last second to gameplay, there are still going to be things that arent done well, and that has to do with how outdated it is.

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                              • tmac3636
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 13

                                #210
                                Re: Madden: Editing Player Ratings in Franchise - Need Your Thoughts

                                I know you weren't really defending madden, but the point stands. Like you said, this is going to take tweaking ( the developer even admitted to this) and every day spent tweaking this feature is a day that could have been spend on real PROGRESS.

                                You say the problems they are running into is because the engine is outdated?????

                                Have you played any football games on ps2? That engine had better gameplay 8 years ago. Saying "we cant do this because our engine is outdated" is taking the easy way out. Its really sad that the Madden team is resorting to this type of attitude.

                                Why are the developers of FIFA or the Show not making excuses?

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