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  • Trevytrev11
    MVP
    • Nov 2006
    • 3259

    #61
    Re: MLB 2k11 Features List

    Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
    So if this game improves it's gameplay substantially and gives a few new features, isn't that a good thing?
    For this game, it is the best thing. It is exactly the route this game needed to take.

    It's been 6 years since 2K5, which means 6 years since 2K put out a baseball game that actually played decent, fundamental baseball in all facets of the game.

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    • Mercury112491
      All Star
      • Mar 2007
      • 7407

      #62
      Re: MLB 2K11 Game Features (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP, DS, PC)

      Like I said last year, 2k10 felt a lot like MVP 2004 did. It was really excellent in a lot of areas and so close in a lot of others, all it needed was some tweaking and polishing and it could have been a great game. MVP 05 was really just a more polished version of 04. This is the biggest reason I'm excited for this year's game. I can't really think of any other modes or features I wanted from last years game, all I want is a version of the game that's polished and plays well. From everything I'm hearing it sounds like that's waht we're getting this year.

      BTW...are we still getting the second developer diary this week or is this our info for the week? The Diary came out last thursday right?

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      • Saberq
        Banned
        • Jan 2011
        • 67

        #63
        Re: MLB 2K11 Game Features (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP, DS, PC)

        Originally posted by Mercury112491
        Like I said last year, 2k10 felt a lot like MVP 2004 did. It was really excellent in a lot of areas and so close in a lot of others, all it needed was some tweaking and polishing and it could have been a great game. MVP 05 was really just a more polished version of 04. This is the biggest reason I'm excited for this year's game. I can't really think of any other modes or features I wanted from last years game, all I want is a version of the game that's polished and plays well. From everything I'm hearing it sounds like that's waht we're getting this year.

        BTW...are we still getting the second developer diary this week or is this our info for the week? The Diary came out last thursday right?
        I agree with you man that 2K10 did like 75% right........IF 2K11 can polish as you said those things that were missing they can have a great game....On Developer's Insights theme I dont know really....Are those Insights a weekly thing?....How was it last year I dont remember?

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        • Scottdau
          Banned
          • Feb 2003
          • 32590

          #64
          Re: MLB 2k11 Features List

          Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
          Kinda funny. If said game has a long feature list full of gimmicks people complain that the developers worked on nothing but gimmicks. But if said game has a feature list with a few new features and just talks about improvements, the developers are "mailing it in" and "don't care". They truly can't win.

          So if this game improves it's gameplay substantially and gives a few new features, isn't that a good thing?
          Winner winner chicken dinner. I agree.

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          • JayhawkerStL
            Banned
            • Apr 2004
            • 3657

            #65
            Re: MLB 2K11 Game Features (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP, DS, PC)

            Originally posted by jake44np
            As a consumer who pays $60 for this game every year and have it be inferior to the other MLB game every year, I have every right in the world to "pee" on this game. To put a baseball game out that has no FIELDING ERRORS like they did last year is just laughable! It would be like NBA 2K putting out a basketball game with no fouls.
            Again dont tell us we cant "pee" on this game when we have been burnt so many times in the past.
            I'd suggest you try urinating on things you actually know. If the game released without errors again, heck yes we should complain. But using what happened in last year's game just to drive a negative narrative to this year's release is pretty close to trolling.

            I think the concerns about how Dynamic Player Ratings will be implemented in franchise is fair. Calling it a band-aid or poorly implemented is just taking time to post negative stuff about something we don't know.

            Considering just how realistic most of the 2K baseball supporters are in terms of what was wrong with last year's game, and previous releases, there is not the need for members of the SCEA Community Day folks to drive this negative narrative to warn gamers of potential problems.

            WE have been pointing out what needs to be fixed, what we hope will be fixed and what we doubt will be fixed. For all of the folks that can't wait to call this game out for being a turd, could you just wait until it releases and complain about what is actually wrong with the game? There are so many other things you can do with your time than spend so much of your time complaining about a game you don't think is going to be worth buying.

            There are a ridiculous amount of sports games coming out in March. Find one you like, and follow it.

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            • dodgerblue
              MVP
              • Feb 2003
              • 1241

              #66
              Re: MLB 2K11 Game Features (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP, DS, PC)

              The more I think about Dynamic Rosters the more I think the impact will be felt mostly with rookies or other players with dramatically different seasons than their "norm". This is a good thing imo, players having a big swing year will reflect it in gameplay.

              It is hard to see though how a veteran that goes on a hot streak for a game or a week or two (or a slump) would really see a ratings impact. I would hope that kind of thing would already be built into the gameplay.

              I guess we'll see. Still remaining positive that this will be a good effort by 2k this year.
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              • bonannogiovanni
                MVP
                • Oct 2004
                • 1339

                #67
                One of the weakest fact sheet I've ever read nowadays, which is not a bad thing at all if they intend to complete an unfinished product for the past two years. I really really wish they overhauled the total control batting and pitching. Pitching must be challenging, hitting must allow to recreate the pitcher batter duel we see in real life, foul balls and high counts, without defensive swings to do beforehand.

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                • EnigmaNemesis
                  Animal Liberation
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 12223

                  #68
                  Re: MLB 2K11 Game Features (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP, DS, PC)

                  Originally posted by Jayhawker
                  And what if it is a "band aid?" It's still an improvement. It's still an interesting and cool feature.

                  There are some people that are trying really hard to pee on this game for no good reason. There is nothing even to be concerned about. You are having to really speculate in order to view this issue in a negative light.

                  You said you were no longer going to post here. What gives?
                  You always feel the need to target my posts, and my posts only with such personal tripe. When there are others who share in the same concern.

                  Why because I went to community day for The Show?

                  Seriously, grow up. You do not make this community any better attacking ones who show genuine and legitimate concern. 2K does not want people questioning, then they need to prove themselves. Especially at $60 year in and year out holding an exclusive license. Only they are going to change peoples opinions, not the self appointed forum police.

                  I do not need to explain myself, but you do need to leave me alone. Thanks.

                  As for the topic, I do not see a "band aide" as an improvement, especially in a game that is supposed to be a video game simulation of the actual sport. Let's just hope there underlies a sim engine with proper progression/regression throughout a franchise based on what is going on in the video game.
                  Last edited by EnigmaNemesis; 01-20-2011, 01:22 PM.
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                  • Visionsofmastery
                    Rookie
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 196

                    #69
                    So no team play? that's a deal breaker for me
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                    • JayhawkerStL
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 3657

                      #70
                      Re: MLB 2K11 Game Features (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP, DS, PC)

                      Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                      You always feel the need to target my posts, and my posts only with such personal tripe. When there are others who share in the same concern.
                      I've pointed out numerous times that showing concern for issues in the 2K games is not a problem. But you exist in this thread purely to be the voice of concern for for the disgruntled masses. That is trolling.

                      It was not surprising that when a list of features came out, you found one that was "concerning" to you so that you could try to steer the narrative in a negative way. It's what you do, what you have been doing, and what I, (and a couple of others who have PM'd me) tire of.

                      If you acted the same way in the SCEA forums, it would come off as legitimate game analysis. But instead, you take the roll of cheerleader, taking people to task for any negative views they might have about the direction of The Show.

                      Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                      2K does not want people questioning, then they need to prove themselves. Especially at $60 year in and year out holding an exclusive license. Only they are going to change peoples opinions, not the self appointed forum police.
                      Apparently you do not actually read the forums here, becasue I, as well as everyone else that view MLB 2K10 as a good game, have posted a constantly about what is wrong with the game, and what needs to be fixed. Trying to pretend that this is a forum of rah-rah cheerleaders is disingenuous, at best.

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                      • MCdodgers99
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 34

                        #71
                        If this game had The Shows graphics I won't lie it would probably be a lot better than The Show

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                        • ryan36
                          7 dirty words...
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 10182

                          #72
                          Re: MLB 2K11 Game Features (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP, DS, PC)

                          The back and forth stops, guys. It doesn't matter if someone went to CD for another game...it has no bearing on what happens here.

                          Point: Progression based on real life will be kinda cool for people who want it...it would end frustration of the game considering a player who's on pace to hit 30hr IRL, rated a 6hr for power in the game. We used to have to wait til next year- we'd be playing with last years attributes and this year's roster.

                          Point: If a guy in the game is 2-11 6.54 ERA it'll be weird to see him rated 96over

                          Point: The feature list says nothing about off-season/in-season progression independent of this real time feature.

                          Point: Just because people also play the Show does not mean that they are not interested in 2 baseball titles, I know I am. I enjoy variety.

                          Conclusion: It's reasonable for some people to wonder out loud if this was how they tried to fix progression manually, instead of reprogramming sim AI/logic.

                          Who posts what is really of no consequence. MLB 2K10 was close...we're all hoping 2k11 is closer. Who doesn't want more good games on the market?

                          So STOP ATTACKING other posters..this goes both ways. Thank you.

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                          • Trevytrev11
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 3259

                            #73
                            Re: MLB 2K11 Game Features (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP, DS, PC)

                            Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis
                            As for the topic, I do not see a "band aide" as an improvement, especially in a game that is supposed to be a video game simulation of the actual sport. Let's just hope there underlies a sim engine with proper progression/regression throughout a franchise based on what is going on in the video game.
                            I hope so too. Having a 35 year old Tim Linceum's performance in year 8 of my franchise being heavily impacted based on what a 20-something Lincecum is doing in June of this years real season just doesn't make any sense.

                            As I stated above, I don't really see how the dynamic ratings can play out with franchise...once the season's start, they will never mirror themselves. Records, stats, rosters, injuries, standings, etc, which all impact this stuff will always be different.

                            Player progression has to be it's own monster, especially when you go beyond one season.
                            Last edited by Trevytrev11; 01-20-2011, 02:08 PM.

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                            • JayhawkerStL
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 3657

                              #74
                              Re: MLB 2K11 Game Features (360, PS3, Wii, PS2, PSP, DS, PC)

                              Originally posted by Trevytrev11
                              I hope so too. Having a 35 year old Tim Linceum's performance in year 8 of my franchise being heavily impacted based on what a 20-something Lincecum is doing in June of this years real season just doesn't make any sense.

                              As I stated above, I don't really see how the dynamic ratings can play out with franchise...once the season's start, they will never mirror themselves. Records, stats, rosters, injuries, standings, etc, which all impact this stuff will always be different.

                              Player progression has to be it's own monster, especially when you go beyond one season.
                              I agree that there does not seem to be a reasonable way for Dynamic Player Ratings to be a part of franchise if they are generated by real life stats.

                              But if this is a way to use MLB Today as a alternative to franchise mode, I'm all-in. That way, as I play through the season, not only will the game generate appropriate pitching match-ups and line-ups, but the ratings of the players will make more sense.

                              MLB Today is the way I played 80% of the time. Enhancing that experience is all win.

                              Personally, I am not familiar with ANY sports game that handle franchise play even remotely realistically enough to keep me interested long term. Trade AI is terrible in all games. GM AI is terrible in all games. The ability to draft and set line-ups is always dorked. Even text-based game struggle to really get this stuff right.

                              I can understand why folks want improvements, but realistically, that is an area that games just have no made it to yet. That's why online dynasties are so popular.

                              And baseball seasons are so long, that multiple seasons are just something I could care less about. But MLB Today turned Play Now games into something very compelling. I think this could be leveraged in a single season mode way that would be fantastic.

                              I expect this will just be a small progression toward something like that. It's a way to leverage real life to make up for the deficiencies of not only 2K's franchise AI, but franchise AI in general. I don't think of this as a band aid as much as an innovative way to get around the problem facing all sports games.

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                              • jeffy777
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 3317

                                #75
                                Re: MLB 2k11 Features List

                                Originally posted by ExtremeGamer
                                Kinda funny. If said game has a long feature list full of gimmicks people complain that the developers worked on nothing but gimmicks. But if said game has a feature list with a few new features and just talks about improvements, the developers are "mailing it in" and "don't care". They truly can't win.

                                So if this game improves it's gameplay substantially and gives a few new features, isn't that a good thing?
                                Well said, man.

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