NCAA 12 MUST HAVE A RANGE RATING! OFFICIAL THREAD

[Raw-Cane]

NCAA 11 is great.With that said Locomotion is hit or miss.It lacks fluidity players dont move naturally after picks or user catches its almost always a complete stop. Back to the topic

Positional speed or add a rating that calculates speed in space.Lets call it RANGE .Dequan Bowers is very quick... for his size but not fast in space. he operates in a roughly 15 yd box where his speed is key for his POSITION. So many safeties are slower than him by number rating in the game.This is wrong.Unless they scale it to POSITION.

If a safety has 80 speed rating within a scale of skill players.Then u have something.That means hes not elite but he has Good Range or speed in space.

There are freakish athletes out there and they should havr high ratings in SPD ACC AGI and the new attribute RANGE.

once again im tired of seeing players control a DE and cover recievers downfield effectively just by strafing.Its crazy and infuriating.How many times do we see LBs or other defenders dive out of desperation because theyre gassed and out of their Speed Range hence a breakaway.

I believe this plus a proper speed threshold can do wonders for the game with the Locomotion.

Lets push for this for 12 discussion starts now

[HARTSTOPPER]

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I LOVE THIS!! I HATE when a random dude online drops a DE into pass coverage and can keep up with my slot receiver who has 93 speed and 90 acc(numbers not actual, just example).

[Raw-Cane]

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I LOVE THIS!! I HATE when a random dude online drops a DE into pass coverage and can keep up with my slot receiver who has 93 speed and 90 acc(numbers not actual, just example).

i knew i wasnt the only 1 who noticed that... as a community and consumer base we got to push for what we want out of our 60 dollar investment

[44drob]

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like thats annoying speed is a big factor in the college game

[Raw-Cane]

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like thats annoying speed is a big factor in the college game

what is annoying? speed is a huge factor in any sport but everyone isnt that fast or speed would be irrelevent...and unlike the game speed burst does run out in real life

Maybe they could tie in ACC with stamina

[1GATOR FAN]

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It's already to dang easy to score on this game no matter what level. I just wish they would add the weight of the player how the speed at witch he is running effects tackles and ect... Momentum in other words.

On this game a big Rb can run over a LB just because he has a high truck rating. That's not realistic.. If a LB comes in at full speed and the RB is slowed down the Lb should win that battle most of the time.

[playguitar90]

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I like the momentum idea.

I can't really understand what youre trying to say, but you seem enthusiastic about it. Is a range rating like a "class" or "level" of speed the players play at? So, a player with top range and 99 speed would be the fastest in the game, but ratings like that would be reserved to a small quick guy?

I think a "range" rating should be inversely related to the weight of the player. The higher the weight, the lower the range is...or the lower the cap for the range is. You SHOULD be able to make a very fast OL player...but he can't be as fast as a very fast WR. I don't think that we need a range rating--we just need a player's mass to matter and affect his ratings. Have an invisible speed class depending on the weight. It would really make different players play different without having to deal with the player liscensing thing.

[Raw-Cane]

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I like the momentum idea.

I can't really understand what youre trying to say, but you seem enthusiastic about it. Is a range rating like a "class" or "level" of speed the players play at? So, a player with top range and 99 speed would be the fastest in the game, but ratings like that would be reserved to a small quick guy?

I think a "range" rating should be inversely related to the weight of the player. The higher the weight, the lower the range is...or the lower the cap for the range is. You SHOULD be able to make a very fast OL player...but he can't be as fast as a very fast WR. I don't think that we need a range rating--we just need a player's mass to matter and affect his ratings. Have an invisible speed class depending on the weight. It would really make different players play different without having to deal with the player liscensing thing.

Momentum is a great idea

But range like a DE with 85 SPD 80 AGI 90ACC with 40 range means after pursuing a play after 15 yds or so hes out of range.With the current ratings 85 spd is 85 regardless of position...To me a fast LB cant run with a DB its rare.
Even on a pro level for example as fast as Clay mathews is he wont be matched up with say TJ houshmanzedah Even if TJs a possession guys its a mismatch because the longer he will be in coverage the more seperation is a result.
LBs and DEs in space is a mismatch on outside skill players period.The range rating would reflect that.Julius peppers is a freakish athlete but if u ask him to cover a RB or even a TE in man he becomes more of a liabilty.

RANGE rating would mean a 90 SPD LB would not run step for step with a 91 spd slot guy on a deep post based off of pure math.what seperates most OLBs and SSs is Range and ball skills.Like wise most corners are extremely quick and agile and most FS may not be as quick but have more range to cover halves or the whole field on plays.

Like CFs in baseball have the most range out of all out fielders.

[Raw-Cane]

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To be clear.I guess i could say that the range rating is purely a DEFENSIVE spacial rating.It should be defined along the lines of a players RESISTANCE to a stamina and distance penalty.(Like in shooting games bullet damage drops at a certain distance).Fast linemen should be fast around the ball not 50 yds downfield its high improbable.LBs shouldnt run stride for stride with WRs if thats the case everyone would only use base personnell.

RANGE should be calculated on a 50 yd scale starting at the LOS

DBs Range should 80 and up
LBs 60-79
DEs 50-65
DTs <50

Meaning that star OLBs 85 SPD with a 79 range means in space he still is fast to around 25 yds from the LOS.He shouldnt be 15 yds deep in a spy type zone and be in on a pass breakup 40-50 yds away.especially if he breaks as the ball is thrown.Only ELITE DBs make those kind of plays and earn those type of RANGE ratings.

Its not perfect but its a good concept.RANGE would just compliment the speed on a positional level.When a physical safety is a step slow reacting to plays they usually put him to OLB.If a corner is a step to slow for that they try him at FS.If a OLB isnt good in SPACE put him at DE.DE not explosive U guessed it try him at DT(size permitting)....

Hope that helps

[HARTSTOPPER]

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If you saw the Rams vs Saints game earlier this year, you could get a better understanding of this range rating the OP is talking about. Roman Harper intercepted a pass near the goal line and took off on a full sprint. after he crossed the 40 or 50 yard line he was completely gassed and QB Sam Bradford actually caught up to him and made a play to force Harper out of bounds. I don't know what sort of rating Harper would get based on that, but it's just a play that I remembered that I figured might help explain the rating.

[playguitar90]

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So range is a quick-acting stamina essentially? This would allow guys like Julius Peppers (aforementioned NFL example) to have 90 or so speed and high 90s acceleration to actually represent their real life quickness in, say, getting to the QB. But DL probably have low range, so they can't run downfield very fast or catch up to guys.

You can implement it to offensive players too!!! For sure! Look at Ahmad Bradshaw on the Giants. One of my favorite players. He is very fast when you see him play, but he gets caught from behind alot. Its not that he doesnt have speed, he gets to the secondary in a split second. Super quick and fast, for sure. But then when he gets out there, he is caught up with.

The range rating, when thought of like this, cannot be replaced by acceleration. I get it. A guy with very very high range on offense, lets say, is someone who hits the "second gear" when they hit open space. how about a high range rating is a benefit, not less of a drawback. A guy with very very high range would be able to hit his top speed in the open field and take off.

Range isn't the most appropriate name for offense, but what can you do? It seems like the best fit. I get it now, its a great idea.

[Raw-Cane]

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If you saw the Rams vs Saints game earlier this year, you could get a better understanding of this range rating the OP is talking about. Roman Harper intercepted a pass near the goal line and took off on a full sprint. after he crossed the 40 or 50 yard line he was completely gassed and QB Sam Bradford actually caught up to him and made a play to force Harper out of bounds. I don't know what sort of rating Harper would get based on that, but it's just a play that I remembered that I figured might help explain the rating.

thank u... he is a SS more of a run stopper... More of a small LB .. not a lot of range ...


RANGE could even be how long your speed burst lasts according to position...

[Lavar]

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It just sounds like your describing agility and acceleration.

I understand what your saying. Its like you can get lineman that are pretty fast in a straight line but don't have the agility and acceleration to move and turn on a dime in a small box area.

But that never really comes across in games.

[Raw-Cane]

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when ppl strafe with lineman and pick off passes or play perfect man coverage downfield strafing with a line backer its crazy

[BleedingGreen710]

Re: NCAA 12 MUST HAVE A RANGE RATING! OFFICIAL THREAD

If you saw the Rams vs Saints game earlier this year, you could get a better understanding of this range rating the OP is talking about. Roman Harper intercepted a pass near the goal line and took off on a full sprint. after he crossed the 40 or 50 yard line he was completely gassed and QB Sam Bradford actually caught up to him and made a play to force Harper out of bounds. I don't know what sort of rating Harper would get based on that, but it's just a play that I remembered that I figured might help explain the rating.

that sounds like stamina to me..