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  • phant030
    MVP
    • Sep 2006
    • 1232

    #76
    Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

    lol @ people's reaction to the information and expectations of the information. As each day passes in life, i realize I much more I don't understand people. Especially here, they knowingly set themselves up for disappointment and frustration. Oh well, @ your stupidity.

    I will probably rarely use the onside kick, glad to see it's included.

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    • PVarck31
      Moderator
      • Jan 2003
      • 16869

      #77
      Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

      No game ever releases large amounts of info/features, 6 months before release.

      Its ok to be critical of Madden. It helps make the game better. But to be livid that you didn't get more/better info in a blog that they didn't even have to do, 6 months before release is ridiculous.

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      • Brandwin
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 30621

        #78
        Originally posted by Ian_Cummings_EA
        I don't get this. Did you guys read the blog? That concern is specifically addressed numerous times.
        Yeah. I'll wait and see.

        I'm glad tuner sets are in


        Sent from my iPhone while on the toilet.

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        • LaW97
          Rookie
          • Nov 2009
          • 389

          #79
          Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

          they actually put up a poll of PA being fixed vs surprise onside kicks???

          get outta town

          thats crazy
          PA Passes are a staple of the game. something that shouldnt have to be debated on wether or not it works properly

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          • HARTSTOPPER
            Play With Integrity
            • Aug 2008
            • 949

            #80
            Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

            Thanks for the information Ian. While it wasn't "ground breaking" it's still cool to see that you guys take our views and opinions into perspective, and cared enough to release information so early. I have my concerns about the surprise onside kick, but I think you guys will iron out all of the potential "cheesy" ways people will exploit this online. If worse comes to worse, I will just line up in an onside kick formation every time and thank my opponent for great field position.

            The tuner sets are going to be huge. If I read and understood the blog correctly, the tuner set takes away the need to have a patch approved by Sony and/or Microsoft, and instead it will allow you guys at EA to make gameplay changes on the fly?

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            • PantherBeast_OS
              RKO!!
              • Apr 2009
              • 6636

              #81
              Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

              Originally posted by JDoze
              Seriously?? They know PA is broken, but we have to decide between if it gets fixed or if a new feature gets added. Wow, priorities are messed up.

              Also, why are people saying "from a marketing standpoint"? Because the competition might still their ideas? Its still the same terrible engine, if the most they can do is polish up the graphics and add new "features" like a surprise onside.....another bad year for Madden.
              Well bro just because Ian did a poll on both surprise onsides or fix PA. Doesn't mean they ain't going to fix it.. I'm sure they will be fixing the PA while giving us the surprise onside kick aswell. It's way early bro. Don't worry so much. Give them time to put out the info. It's still way early in the build.

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              • ryan36
                7 dirty words...
                • Feb 2003
                • 10139

                #82
                Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

                Originally posted by Legend Killer
                Well bro just because Ian did a poll on both surprise onsides or fix PA. Doesn't mean they ain't going to fix it.. I'm sure they will be fixing the PA while giving us the surprise onside kick aswell. It's way early bro. Don't worry so much. Give them time to put out the info. It's still way early in the build.
                I'm NOT saying PA ISN'T fixed. I'm saying that if it truly was a one or the other situation then I'm sad they picked the suprise onside kicks. I DOUBT this is what happens.

                And Ian being able to announce tuner sets is MUCH more than I expected

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                • Coach_III
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 29

                  #83
                  Originally posted by ryan36
                  a) not everyone is an online gamer, and b) play in sim leagues...problem solved.
                  A im not talking about what everybody plays. Im talking about online play: b if I made that comment, dnt you think I already do

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                  • PVarck31
                    Moderator
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16869

                    #84
                    Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

                    Originally posted by ryan36
                    I'm NOT saying PA ISN'T fixed. I'm saying that if it truly was a one or the other situation then I'm sad they picked the suprise onside kicks. I DOUBT this is what happens.

                    And Ian being able to announce tuner sets is MUCH more than I expected
                    Where did it say that Ian did a poll on whether they should add surprise onside kicks or fix PA? Did I miss this?

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                    • 100 Proof
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 15

                      #85
                      <p>
                      Originally posted by Ian_Cummings_EA
                      I don't get this. Did you guys read the blog? That concern is specifically addressed numerous times.
                      </p>

                      <p>Hey Ian, is there anyway you guys can just add a "Suprise Onside" kickoff formation for the receiving team? That would be a great counter to the surprise onside kick being added. That would add a realistic risk/reward aspect for the receiving team to sacrifice special teams blocking personnel for a hands teams upfront and/or sacrificing the potential of a big kick return by having the regular kickoff personnel looking for a surprise onside. I don't mean an onside kick formation but an actual kickoff formation where the recieving team is expecting a surprise onside.I think that would add realism to the surprise onside kick because in real life, the "surprise" is the recieving team is expecting a deep kickoff. Give us a way to negeat the surprise onside kick but risk return yards and field position if they kick it deep.

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                      • khaliib
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 2884

                        #86
                        Thanks Ian for stepping out and communicating with gamers.

                        I'm a rent 1st type of gamer. Not just with EA, but with all games since once you open, you own.

                        I think a better way to tie in the Surprise Onside Kick would be to tie it into an attribute of your ST Coach. Coaches have to play a role in the game somehow. It would be better if such a call was out of the hands of the gamer. You do this with the Off Coordinator already, just continue to expand to others on the coaching staff.

                        If your ST Coach calls it, you have to roll with it. Even if the circumstance is not right for it (better hire a ST Coach with good awareness of game situations).

                        Side note gripe:
                        I know it's still in the tinkering stage, but the KO players stayed fixed to their KO lanes eventhough it was an onside kick.

                        Also, for this to look/work right, players "Can Not" do that Standing 2-Step dance. Bodies must collide and hit the ground. This is the one time I would say that Backbreaker type of collisions would be perfect for this feature. It really would be nice if you could choose a guy and go blow up somebody on ST.

                        Players at the Pro level "Attack" their responsibilities with Recless Abandon. This is one area that really kills the Pro representation by Madden.

                        Well, we shall see.
                        That's all anybody can really say right now.

                        "Oh, how I wish Def Players in Madden would constantly move around like I'm watching on TV now.
                        Steelers 3-4 motion Def is crazy looking with so much movement happening before the snap"

                        This is what happens on Sundays.

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                        • PantherBeast_OS
                          RKO!!
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 6636

                          #87
                          Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

                          Originally posted by ryan36
                          I'm NOT saying PA ISN'T fixed. I'm saying that if it truly was a one or the other situation then I'm sad they picked the suprise onside kicks. I DOUBT this is what happens.

                          And Ian being able to announce tuner sets is MUCH more than I expected
                          Well I hope PA does get fixed. But if not it ain't going to be a total loss. I run a lot PAs in my playbook and I'm fine with them most of the time. Just when the AI blitz to much on PA that bugs me.

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                          • DJ
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 17756

                            #88
                            Tuner sets and surprise onsides kicks are both good additions to the game. Ian, do you know if, like in NHL, users will be able to choose which Tuner Set they want to use? That was the only thing I didn't like about NCAA 11 was that you couldn't choose which Tuner to use.

                            Thanks for the info during Super Bowl Sunday
                            Currently Playing:
                            MLB The Show 25 (PS5)

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                            • at23steelers
                              Pro
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 950

                              #89
                              Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

                              I am really impressed with the graphics and score on the top. The tuner is an awesome addition, and surprised onside kicks will be neat if implemented properly.
                              Have an awesome day!!

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                              • Chrisksaint
                                $$$
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 19127

                                #90
                                Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

                                Tuner sets is good news really good news. I will do a surprise onside kick at the beginning of every half in honor of Sean Payton until I convert one lol.

                                Waiting anxiously for any of those new features for Franchise,etc.
                                Saints, LSU, Seminoles, Pelicans, Marlins, Lightning

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