Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

[roadman]

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Ian took a poll here on OS awhile back... a month or so ? (I don't quite remember)


I don't know that Ian put up a biased poll... I think he was just asking- either way if I had to guess I'd say PA is fixed.

Just my opinion, but if you asked me, the poll is slanted one way.

Are you really going to answer on-side kicks with that question?

Just saying.

[FootballDetails]

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I'm in favor of the surprise onside kick. It exists in reality. If you're going to argue against reality, there's not much to say.

I'm happy with today's info. It's the best Madden Super Bowl Halftime Blog so far. (Well yeah, out of three. Still.)

[BlueNGold]

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Wow. Nevermind the surprise onsides and tuners (both good additions), the most notable thing to me is how good the game looks at this early stage.

Can't wait for more info. Will this be the only news for the month or will we be getting anything else before March?

[BlastX21]

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I'm in favor of the surprise onside kick. It exists in reality. If you're going to argue against reality, there's not much to say.

I'm happy with today's info. It's the best Madden Super Bowl Halftime Blog so far. (Well yeah, out of three. Still.)

Understandable, but the play is only a real as the user calling it. Irl you may see three or four surprise onside kicks in a season. But I guarantee you, there will be guys online using it every single kickoff. Then there will be another group who use it at least once a game. Thats contradictory to this "reality" that we both want.

The only way they should implement it, at least in my opinion, is if they give the receiving team an additional option to do a normal return while still looking for the onside kick. It would lessen the return game slighty but protect against the onside.

[BlueNGold]

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About surprise onsides, I think it might be best if they only allow them to be done in certain situations.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think I've seen a team with the lead do a surprise onside kick in real life.

[PGaither84]

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49ers called this a number of times under Mike Nolan. This is not called often, but 32 teams and 16 weeks, it's not as rare as people may think either. What was rare was the Super Bowl. In fact, the Monday after, at our local indy book store, the owner said to me "what a call! That was like a video game!" I laughed and said "yeah, funny thing is.. you can't actually do that in the video game." Well, now you can.

I am glad it is in the game, like the wildcat, and I wish you could really use the Wildcat like it was intended instead of how it works now, but thanks to online jerks this will be another eye roller.

I like NCAA, and I like NCAA after using PlayMakers custom sliders, so I would guess that the tuner feature is a good thing. Also, as Ian wrote, it means we could/should get more "patches" without them really being called patches, and they can spend more time patching other areas of the game for title updates. i don't see how this isn't a good thing all around.

[PGaither84]

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About surprise onsides, I think it might be best if they only allow them to be done in certain situations.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think I've seen a team with the lead do a surprise onside kick in real life.

Unless my memory is fading, in 2008 after taking the lead in a tight 10-10 game on the first drive of the 2ed half, Arizona tried a surprise onside kick and turned it into a two score lead and obliterated any momentum the 49ers may have had at half time.

[khaliib]

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BlastX21;2042100918

"Understandable, but the play is only a real as the user calling it. Irl you may see three or four surprise onside kicks in a season. But I guarantee you, there will be guys online using it every single kickoff. Then there will be another group who use it at least once a game. Thats contradictory to this "reality" that we both want."

That's why I said they should take this out of the gamers hands by making it tie into the ST Coach's ratings. Depending on his Game AWR or Aggressiveness, this play should run through the ST Coach. With it out of Gamer's control, it adds value/reason to hiring a ST Coach.

At some point, Coaches will have to matter in this game (maybe by 2014) because as it stands, they play absolutely no role in the game at all.

[PGaither84]

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That's why I said they should take this out of the gamers hands by making it tie into the ST Coach's ratings. Depending on his Game AWR or Aggressiveness, this play should run through the ST Coach. With it out of Gamer's control, it adds value/reason to hiring a ST Coach.

At some point, Coaches will have to matter in this game (maybe by 2014) because as it stands, they play absolutely no role in the game at all.

I asked if there were a way to turn on auto kicking [like coach mode is really just auto passing] as a feature, and possibly a feature for online play.

[BlueNGold]

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Unless my memory is fading, in 2008 after taking the lead in a tight 10-10 game on the first drive of the 2ed half, Arizona tried a surprise onside kick and turned it into a two score lead and obliterated any momentum the 49ers may have had at half time.

Thanks.

Well, it's definitely going to be interesting to see how this is used online.

Don't get me wrong though, I'm not against this feature and am all for getting things that we see in real life.

[FootballDetails]

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...I'm not against this feature and am all for getting things that we see in real life.

Things that we see in real life. Exactly. The addition of surprise onside kicks was an absolute necessity.

[PGaither84]

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Things that we see in real life. Exactly. The addition of surprise onside kicks was an absolute necessity.

Is that a jab at he Wildcat from a Phins fan? If so, I approve. I hate the Wildcat, but I want it to work right in the game.

[FootballDetails]

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I hate the Wildcat, but I want it to work right in the game.

Me, too. I currently don't use the Wildcat for three reasons.

1. It doesn't work right. The restrictions are...um...restrictive.
2. Custom playbooks don't exist. Since I don't use Miami's playbook, I don't have access to its collection of Wildcat plays.
3. It's come to symbolize the sluggish Miami Dolphins offense. I don't want to talk about it. lol

Back to topic. I'm thrilled surprise onside kicks are in. It shows a commitment to simulation.

[Bellsprout]

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I approve of the new scoring bug. I like it a lot.

I was sick of looking at the current one, since they've had it for 2 years. The new one's smaller, which is excellent, because the current one was huge.

[brett the jet favre]

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Surprise onside kicks eh...like it but can see it getting abused online.

thas all we are gonna see online hah!