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  • Meast21Forever
    Pro
    • Feb 2009
    • 769

    #121
    Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog

    a few things:

    - happy about the tuners. that's going to improve the game. the way this team worked well into december patching and updating madden 11, tuner sets will only improve madden 12 further.

    - surprise onside kicks won't ruin online play. get a grip people. obviously they'll tune the ai to be aware of it. and if it does work once, ok then. but if it works more than once, that's on you. if someone wants to do that every time, make them pay. the risk outweighs the reward.

    - why are people surprised how good the game looks 'for an early build'? it's madden 11 updated. not to say it's not a different game, but it isn't like they built it from scratch. they're just adding things. it looks pretty similar to 11 to me aesthetically aside from the score bug at the top.

    - this blog is about as exciting as i expected. ian's not going to come out and release all the updated franchise info when the game doesn't ship for another 7 months. he's just feeding us baby birds what he's allowed to.

    - is it me or does ian's controller look worn out? his pads are all shiny

    - still a bunch of individual players out there. each one is kinda wandering around doing his own thing. after playing nba 2k11 for so long, it'd be nice to see a player or two come together and hit helmets or high five or something. they recovered an onside kick, a few guys celebrated to themselves, and then it's off the field at the exact same rate of speed lol. a bit robotic almost. 2k11 spoiled me i guess
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    • erich20012001
      Pro
      • Feb 2006
      • 892

      #122
      Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog

      Originally posted by Meast21Forever
      a few things:

      - happy about the tuners. that's going to improve the game. the way this team worked well into december patching and updating madden 11, tuner sets will only improve madden 12 further.

      - surprise onside kicks won't ruin online play. get a grip people. obviously they'll tune the ai to be aware of it. and if it does work once, ok then. but if it works more than once, that's on you. if someone wants to do that every time, make them pay. the risk outweighs the reward.

      - why are people surprised how good the game looks 'for an early build'? it's madden 11 updated. not to say it's not a different game, but it isn't like they built it from scratch. they're just adding things. it looks pretty similar to 11 to me aesthetically aside from the score bug at the top.

      - this blog is about as exciting as i expected. ian's not going to come out and release all the updated franchise info when the game doesn't ship for another 7 months. he's just feeding us baby birds what he's allowed to.

      - is it me or does ian's controller look worn out? his pads are all shiny

      - still a bunch of individual players out there. each one is kinda wandering around doing his own thing. after playing nba 2k11 for so long, it'd be nice to see a player or two come together and hit helmets or high five or something. they recovered an onside kick, a few guys celebrated to themselves, and then it's off the field at the exact same rate of speed lol. a bit robotic almost. 2k11 spoiled me i guess
      This is the first thing I noticed, and something that if fixed, can bring a lot to the game. They need to make a team feel like a team. It brings life to a game.

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      • dickey1331
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        • Sep 2009
        • 14285

        #123
        Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog

        Originally posted by brett the jet favre
        thas all we are gonna see online hah!
        Did you read the blog?
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        • TheCreep
          Banned
          • Nov 2008
          • 1792

          #124
          Whatever. I just hope Ian and the crew watched the full game today to make sure they implement the linebacker variants of the revo speed. Clay Matthews helmet/facemask needs to be implemented asap.

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          • Step2001
            Pro
            • Jul 2006
            • 573

            #125
            Players need to have a Special Teams Rating & Allow us to set our Special Teams Units. So much more......

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            • RynoAid
              Tradition Football
              • Jan 2008
              • 1109

              #126
              Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

              Originally posted by Blue Line
              ok then, someone wake me up in six months when all the info is already released. im not going to sit here and pretend that this was news worthy
              I think any info you get 7 months in advance is newsworthy.. especially if it includes info on tuner sets. The onside kick info was just to bury the lead...
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              • adembroski
                49ers
                • Jul 2002
                • 5829

                #127
                Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

                I agree with Ryno... the tuner sets are the real news here.

                I'm going to take myself out of my current job for just a moment and comment as if I don't know what else is coming down the pike... Ian addressed something that the community had been asking for but he had been resisting because he felt there were bigger fish to fry. I think it was a smart blog to do, it was the right blog to do, because it's something that's already in the game, already working, and thus it isn't gonna get cut, and he can let the community who's been demanding it know "hey, we are listening, we're doing what we can."

                Again, back to the tuner sets... I think we all expected them, but it's confirmed now, and that can't be anything but a good thing. It isn't huge news, anybody who's been here the past two seasons knows it's not gonna be huge news (year 1 was head tracking, I don't remember what it was last year, but I know there was a similar "where's the real news" kinda thing).

                Anyways, there's a long ways to go to August, and plenty more news coming. I'm sure it'll start to flow like a river around the draft, so sit down, chill, wait it out.
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                • Meast21Forever
                  Pro
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 769

                  #128
                  Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

                  Originally posted by adembroski

                  I'm going to take myself out of my current job for just a moment and comment as if I don't know what else is coming down the pike...
                  i hate you...
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                  • roadman
                    *ll St*r
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 26339

                    #129
                    Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

                    Originally posted by adembroski

                    Again, back to the tuner sets... I think we all expected them, but it's confirmed now, and that can't be anything but a good thing. It isn't huge news, anybody who's been here the past two seasons knows it's not gonna be huge news (year 1 was head tracking, I don't remember what it was last year, but I know there was a similar "where's the real news" kinda thing).
                    AJ, it was the goose egg hunt on the white board. The Go Pack Go chant, Pycho D, the Jets Chant, Tom Hammond's name crossed out, etc...... The backlash was the people didn't look perky enough. lol.

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                    • Hova57
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 3754

                      #130
                      Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

                      Originally posted by Senator Palmer
                      I agree with you there. There are nuances and subtle innovations in both NCAA and Madden that don't cross over. This could be a very good thing
                      yea not only that but they borrowed an animation from Fifa team for the onside kick. Pretty Cool. As it stands now Ncaa and Madden only games in EaSports Division with no added physics to the game so we could be in for a good surprise eventually

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                      • DickDalewood
                        All Star
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 6263

                        #131
                        Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog

                        Originally posted by Meast21Forever

                        - still a bunch of individual players out there. each one is kinda wandering around doing his own thing. after playing nba 2k11 for so long, it'd be nice to see a player or two come together and hit helmets or high five or something. they recovered an onside kick, a few guys celebrated to themselves, and then it's off the field at the exact same rate of speed lol. a bit robotic almost. 2k11 spoiled me i guess
                        Yes, one of my largest gripes as well, and it would go a LONG way in improving the feel and presentation.

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                        • Flamehead
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 1501

                          #132
                          Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

                          I'm indifferent to the surprise onside kicking, but the tuner set is a very positive step. To me, that's pretty significant as I've wondered for two years why Madden didn't have them but some of the other EA titles did. Now they do, and that's good news.

                          The text "The days of shipping a disc in a box and forgetting about it are long gone, and we want to be at the forefront of blazing new trails in reacting to our audience and improving the game quickly."

                          ...was a little eye-rolling as it seemed to ring of marketing jargon, and for all I know, someone in Marketing added it after Ian wrote it, but who knows (nevermind that Madden is NOT at the "forefront of blazing new trails" in regard to the tuner sets as other EA titles have had them over some time now).

                          In any event, better late than never. A good addition.

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                          • mm boost
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 1686

                            #133
                            Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

                            Ian, thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to make us a blog to get the hype train rolling for 2012. A lot of times, everyone over looks small things like this that you do for this community, only to moan and complain about zomg there wuz no franchiz newz!?!/11!11 Wtf!!??11 off with EA's HEADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


                            The true immature children come out in these threads when news is released, and allows the moderators to do their jobs more diligently. Regardless, again, thank you for making this blog. I am about to go listen to the podcast now, and get even more excited. Personally, I loved this blog. The tuner sets is a MAJOR thing for me. I'm still playing my NCAA 11, and the tuner sets, IMO, was one of their best additions. I think it truly allows you guys to listen to our feedback, and fix certain parts of the game. And honestly, I feel like this will keep frustrating problems from staying around for a while.

                            Prime example. I just finished my 2nd season in Madden 2011 with my Cowboys this weekend, played in the Superbowl against the Chargers. Had a really awesome game with some AWESOME highlight plays from it, get to the superbowl presentation and I am enjoying the trophy presentation and the dialogue from Gus, and then BOOM, the game freezes and I lost everything. Want to talk about being upset? Yes I was, no doubt about it. So much so, that I quit my franchise, and I am starting a new one tonight. It completely sucked the life out of my franchise. My sense of accomplishment was completely gone, so I have no desire to continue that 'chise. So I am downloading the latest roster update tonight, and starting a fresh one.

                            Regardless, my point is, with a tuner set, this would fix this type of problem right? I have seen numerous threads on the superbowl glitch, so I know it is not me and that it is a widespread problem. With tuner sets, you guys would be able to address this, correct?

                            Another COMMON issue, was the issue with the pre-game presentation tidbits, where Gus Johnson said the same intro over and over and over and over about the quarterback comparisons. No defense comparisons, no other star players, only the two quarterbacks. And if they are not familiar quarterbacks, we get the same standard intro which gets old very quickly. This is another area I am assuming the tuner sets could address, which would make the tuner set feature one of the best additions in a long time for Madden.

                            I am looking forward to the Franchise news, which will be my major selling point. I hope you guys knock it out of the park with presentation and overall depth in the franchise mode (which I have faith, and I am feeling optimistic that you will). I love Madden and I purchase it every year, but I would love for a few of the areas that bother me to be fully addressed so I no-longer have to ignore and chalk up to difficulty of delivering a perfect game.
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                            • Rebel10
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 1162

                              #134
                              Originally posted by Senator Palmer
                              Just curious, what was wrong with the NCAA tuner?

                              I thought they worked great. It's just the NCAA team tuned to the point of screwing up what was so great about the game, then went radio silent.
                              NCAA Tuners were a disaster when coupled with patches & EA Online Pass, because the tuners were released simultaneously with patches and they were meant to work in tandem... The problem was for people without EA Online Pass, because the two things worked together, it legitimately broke the game for anybody who didn't have EA Online Pass... the only way to make the game playable was to disconnect from XBL / PSN, and delete all updates whenever you wanted to play NCAA.

                              As far as I know, EA never rectified this ridiculous issue, nor even recognized it.

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                              • huskerwr38
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 1549

                                #135
                                Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

                                This blog was a very nice surprise compared to last year as they actually talked about new features. Anyways, for people talking about presentation and stuff (or lack thereof) I would just relax right now. The game is about 6 and a half months away from shipping right now. I'm sure they do not have that stuff installed yet.
                                Last edited by huskerwr38; 02-07-2011, 10:50 AM.

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