Madden's Current Gen Has Not Been a Success

[RGiles36]

Re: Madden's Current Gen Has Not Been a Success

I'm not going to join in on the bashing -- enough of that goes on in this forum as it already is. But I certainly agree that Madden lacks true innovation. Sure, they gave us Gameflow. But it's not a game changer IMO -- it just adds convenience and perhaps another level of strategy.

The presentation doesn't blow you away. I feel as though the gameplay is solid (my opinion), but what's innovative about it? They've provided Pro-Tak, locomotion, and numerous other improvements. But that's just what they are: improvments.

Maybe I'm just waiting for them to take a risk? Granted, they've had a lot to address the last couple years so re-inventing the wheel certainly hasn't been a priority. I'd just like to see them add some spice to the passing game, or add something creative to the defense that we haven't seen. Something!

[SA1NT401]

Simple comment. I have given up of madden after 20yrs. It brings NOTHING to the table worth my interest anymore...SADLY.

THE SHOW is pretty much the only sports game i feel gives me a SIM game and a rather differant experience every time i play it.

[cowboysfan440]

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I only beg to differ because IMO 05 was the START of greatness on PS2. It continued through the next two iterations and improved even more.

Now if you're talking next gen, I wholeheartedly agree.

yeah im mainly talking next gen for me personally the biggest reason i went out and purchased a 360 so fast was for that commercial
id say that the greatness for the ps2/xbox started in 04 after 06 they didnt really do much with those versions cause of focusing on next gen but was still a far superior product 09 was the first year i didnt feel the need to go out and buy the ps2 version of the game and play that more than the next gen

[JBH3]

Finally. An article that makes sense.

Look at other sports games w/ competition.

The Show is the class of Baseball...2K tries to compete, but the Show is King.

NBA2K has had competition, but have developed a game that is unparalleled.

Common denominator is competition.

We are all guilty of giving way to the thought that Madden has been a success.

We knowingly bought a poor product by comparison to the aforementioned Next-Gen Sports titles ONLY because we wanted a PRO football game to play. At least I am...

I'll admit that I had fun w/ this years Madden. It was far more playable than any of the past three titles. However, my time with this game was completely RUINED once I played and won the Superbowl and had Kevin Kolb's character in all of the post-celebration cutscenes.

Vick was taken out of the game late in the 4th Qtr since the Eagles were up by 28 pts, and Kolb came in to throw 1 pass and hand the ball off a dozen times. I guess because the game only "looked" at the depth chart to determine what player model would be used in the cutscenes is why Kolb became that guy.

I only mention this because these are the constant issues that plaque this title.

[tpaterniti]

I predict a quick ban for the OP for criticizing the almighty Madden, something this site apparently frowns upon.

[sb24]

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I predict a quick ban for the OP for criticizing the almighty Madden, something this site apparently frowns upon.

Hes a writer for the site FYI.

[tpaterniti]

Doesn't matter. OS answers to a higher power lol.

[coke hogan]

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I predict a quick ban for the OP for criticizing the almighty Madden, something this site apparently frowns upon.

seems like they got u with a warning buddy, even though ur statement is not too far from the truth.

it is frowned upon to speak bad of the best thing smoking for now.
even if it it constructive and done in a nice way.

can't bite the hand that feeds u.

[ryan36]

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I don't know how you can say OS is beholden to Madden, when WE published the article.

Keep on topic, guys; talk about the article , not OS

[sb24]

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seems like they got u with a warning buddy, even though ur statement is not too far from the truth.

it is frowned upon to speak bad of the best thing smoking for now.
even if it it constructive and done in a nice way.

can't bite the hand that feeds u.

Guys you have it wrong. You can talk as much **** on this game as you want, you just have to do it in a way that actually has a point. If you just bitching just to bitch well that when the hammer comes. Its absoluty comical to me guys seriously think this is an "EA" site. Try browsing outside the madden sections and post enough to know what the site is about before making these claims. They are annoying and very very played out.

[GiantBlue76]

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Finally. An article that makes sense.

Look at other sports games w/ competition.

The Show is the class of Baseball...2K tries to compete, but the Show is King.

NBA2K has had competition, but have developed a game that is unparalleled.

Common denominator is competition.

We are all guilty of giving way to the thought that Madden has been a success.

We knowingly bought a poor product by comparison to the aforementioned Next-Gen Sports titles ONLY because we wanted a PRO football game to play. At least I am...

I'll admit that I had fun w/ this years Madden. It was far more playable than any of the past three titles. However, my time with this game was completely RUINED once I played and won the Superbowl and had Kevin Kolb's character in all of the post-celebration cutscenes.

Vick was taken out of the game late in the 4th Qtr since the Eagles were up by 28 pts, and Kolb came in to throw 1 pass and hand the ball off a dozen times. I guess because the game only "looked" at the depth chart to determine what player model would be used in the cutscenes is why Kolb became that guy.

I only mention this because these are the constant issues that plaque this title.

Attention to detail and polish is a HUGE issue and I agree with you completely. These types of things are almost embarrassing when you compare them to the other next gen titles. There are also a lot of bugs. Fumbles being recovered then awarded to the wrong team, play clock running during injury animations, fumble recoveries being awarded a first down, etc. etc. I think those things have really soured a lot of long time fans and have created an almost "sub culture" that has revolted against the Madden team.

[coke hogan]

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Guys you have it wrong. You can talk as much **** on this game as you want, you just have to do it in a way that actually has a point. If you just bitching just to bitch well that when the hammer comes. Its absoluty comical to me guys seriously think this is an "EA" site. Try browsing outside the madden sections and post enough to know what the site is about before making these claims. They are annoying and very very played out.

i have been lurking this site for yrs.

i know how it goes but i also noticed since the madden devs started posting the slightest disapproval of this game is looked down upon, even when it is warrented and presented as not bashing.

i understand presenting ur remarks in a respectful way, because that is how it should be but i am surprised i got a warning, but also under the new doctrine i could have been banned without warning.

so i guess i am greatful.

[ryan36]

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Move on guys. You can criticize the game all you want...

For me it was unplayable until after a 5th patch. If they stopped at patch 4, I wouldn't have it. I don't think it was fun.

It's when you call out OS's impartiality that it matters.

Having the devs here is nice, but really we'd have all the same info... the only difference is sometimes a dev (for any game) will ask for feedback and OS users are in a unique position to give it.

[cree ross]

Well at least you got surprise onside kick.... and now the developers have a slider set (aka tuner)

[mjhyankees]

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i dont' disagree with any of your points out there guys.....but I'm having a great time with the game...good sliders = good gameplay and the franchise mode is still decent...true it lacks features from the past and that would surely improve the presentation and in depth part of the game. I also agree that lack of competition HAS TO reduce the effort to make a great game.
That said I'm happy with the improvement in next gen (played old gen until 09) and expect them to continue to get better. Faulted yes, lack of speedy improvement yes,...but enjoyable nonetheless...maybe I'm easy to please but I find that madden 11 is the best next gen so far and I look forward to continued improvement (maybe I'm naive too).