Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

[Hooe]

Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

Server side fixes were promised based on usage.

Quote: " Because everything was built to be server-based for Online Franchise, things like CPU logic would have to be run on that server, so we were not able to make that a part of the online franchise experience by the time the game will hit the shelves. Based on usage once the game is released we will obviously look to update and change whatever the community feels is most important."

Taken from online franchise blog.

http://maddennfl.easports.com/blog.a...0franchise%201

Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember one of the devs saying that, based on their tracking information, online franchise is either THE least or one of the least-used features in M10/M11; thus potentially failing the "based on usage" qualifier.

Not to say that I don't want a more expansive online franchise mode; I do. That said, I think that the ideas that EA has lied or even mislead its userbase are shortsighted.

[kjcheezhead]

Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember one of the devs saying that, based on their tracking information, online franchise is either THE least or one of the least-used features in M10/M11; thus potentially failing the "based on usage" qualifier.

Not to say that I don't want a more expansive online franchise mode; I do. That said, I think that the ideas that EA has lied or even mislead its userbase are shortsighted.

I believe you are correct, but given how bare the mode was, I think this is a cop out. One or two of the the features deemed most important like trade logic or salary contracts could have been added to see if it would increase usage instead of ignoring it completely for 2 years.

Superstar mode in Madden also doesn't get used very much. However My Player mode in NBA2k11 is praised all the time. That suggests that maybe if madden had a better superstar mode then it currently does, people would use it more. Just my opinion.

[Senator Palmer]

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All I meant is that it can't hurt.

The more the merrier is the way I see it.

Plus, having Fight Night on your resume can't hurt, either.

Oh no, I was just throwing it out there. I don't think it's an automatic win as history has shown, but like you said, I see it as a positive. Now that Mike Heimerdinger has some time on his hands, maybe he can come back in like he did last year with the run blocking and sure up the pass protections, and defensive line stunts.

[Hooe]

Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

I believe you are correct, but given how bare the mode was, I think this is a cop out. One or two of the the features deemed most important like trade logic or salary contracts could have been added to see if it would increase usage instead of ignoring it completely for 2 years.

Superstar mode in Madden also doesn't get used very much. However My Player mode in NBA2k11 is praised all the time. That suggests that maybe if madden had a better superstar mode then it currently does, people would use it more. Just my opinion.

You have a valid argument, IMO. It's a chicken-and-egg thing; would people use online franchise mode more if these features were there in the first place? Likely. Putting them in post-release without any sort of advertising buildup might not be a success, however, as communicating the addition to fans who don't frequent communities like OS might be a significant logistical problem.

Could also be seen (particularly with regard to Superstar mode, and this is pure speculation) as a call to scrap what's there and go back to the drawing board altogether.

[GiantBlue76]

I know a lot of leagues that are out there. They don't use the online franchise because it's missing all of the needed features. Now that league manager and xfn sites are out there the mode is awesome. Madden 11 is a good game. With some dedication to more football fundamentals and some great features like online franchise spectator mode, it Could be great.

[LiquorLogic]

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember one of the devs saying that, based on their tracking information, online franchise is either THE least or one of the least-used features in M10/M11; thus potentially failing the "based on usage" qualifier.

Not to say that I don't want a more expansive online franchise mode; I do. That said, I think that the ideas that EA has lied or even mislead its userbase are shortsighted.

I don't think the idea is short-sided. What's the point in playing a franchise mode without salary caps and contracts ? The mode was too bare; that's why the usage was so low.

[fhhs63]

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I like OF as much as anyone, but still, the majority of players play OFFline franchise the most, including me. I say, scrap MUT to make disk space for huge improvements to offline franchise, NOT online!

[BlueNGold]

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I like OF as much as anyone, but still, the majority of players play OFFline franchise the most, including me. I say, scrap MUT to make disk space for huge improvements to offline franchise, NOT online!

Good luck with that happening.

Why would EA remove a feature, which by the way is more time consuming than adding a new feature, that is profitable for them?

[kjcheezhead]

Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

You have a valid argument, IMO. It's a chicken-and-egg thing; would people use online franchise mode more if these features were there in the first place? Likely. Putting them in post-release without any sort of advertising buildup might not be a success, however, as communicating the addition to fans who don't frequent communities like OS might be a significant logistical problem.

Could also be seen (particularly with regard to Superstar mode, and this is pure speculation) as a call to scrap what's there and go back to the drawing board altogether.

It could easily have been put in a little news release that pops up when a player went to the online section of the game so again this sounds like a cop out to me.

As far as scrapping whats there and starting over with a completely new superstar mode, I think it's possible, they did scrap a terrible online league system from madden 09 before building the online franchise in the game now. I just have my doubts because things like the halftime highlights and the current online franchise suggest to me that this team likes to cut corners instead of including the "little things" that could make the game great.

[mirrored32]

i could care less about surprise onside kicks. gimicky. i think better resources and time could be spent on other things. franchise and history.

[BlueNGold]

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i could care less about surprise onside kicks. gimicky. i think better resources and time could be spent on other things. franchise and history.

How the hell is it gimmicky? It's a part of the game.

You don't want to see what you see in real life in the game?

[roadman]

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i could care less about surprise onside kicks. gimicky. i think better resources and time could be spent on other things. franchise and history.

Welcome, I see you are new here.

For the past 3 yrs, we have been delivered small amounts of information on the new game starting at SB time-through Draft Day.

The bigger ticket items are from Draft Day till the July area. If your looking for the bigger ticket items, you might have to wait until April and beyond.

[at23steelers]

Re: Madden NFL 12 Super Bowl Halftime Blog: Tuner Sets and Surprise Onside Kicks

Jon Robinson: Is there a limit to how many times players will be able to attempt this throughout the game?

Ian Cummings: Yeah, this is something that has brought up a lot of discussion, and as of today we're limiting this to one per team per game. At the beginning of the week I had it at two per team per game, but there was an overwhelming response that we shouldn't do that. The thing is, this is in the tuner set values, so we can push this pretty easily if we want to go up or down. I don't want people to think that this is an exploit and that we're capping it because it's an exploit, but the idea is that once a team does one, there's no way that the other team would fall for it again. They're going to be setup for it and they're going to prepare for it. So I don't want to make this unlimited where some guy spends six days straight in practice mode and finds a way to recover every time and ruins online play for everyone. That's why we're limiting this to just one or two or maybe three. We'll see how it works out closer to ship.

[Bellsprout]

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Can't it just be an option? Surprise Onside Kick Cap: On/Off or something? Maybe not even On/Off, maybe just 1-Unlimited or something.

[jeremym480]

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How the hell is it gimmicky? It's a part of the game.

You don't want to see what you see in real life in the game?

I'm 100% convinced that some folks around here have no idea what a gimmick is.