To EA and Madden Consumers, Madden Is a Success

**droopizzle34** · 02-09-2011, 11:37 PM

Re: To EA and Madden Consumers, Madden Is a Success

Originally posted by The GIGGAS

I do think Ian has some good ideas for the game, but I'm a huge proponent of allowing competition. We'll just have to see on this regard.

if Madden is supposedly a success now....imagine how good it could be with a competitor to push it to new heights.....

**LingeringRegime** · 02-10-2011, 03:34 AM

Originally posted by WakeUp

If evolution in gaming exists, and it does, then it's indisputable that we're supposed to hold the games of today to a higher standard than those of yesterday. We're going to do that anyway, since we do in fact expect so much more. However, Madden seems to be the one franchise where mediocrity and poor performance is accepted and defended tooth and nail.

**grismosw** · 02-10-2011, 06:28 AM

This article is so far from reality and its evident by almost all the other responses. Seems like OS has basically sold out.

**dickey1331** · 02-10-2011, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by grismosw

This article is so far from reality and its evident by almost all the other responses. Seems like OS has basically sold out.

How has OS sold out?

Do you really care where I sent this from?

**FlyingFinn** · 02-10-2011, 08:22 AM

Re: To EA and Madden Consumers, Madden Is a Success

Originally posted by dickey1331

How has OS sold out?

Do you really care where I sent this from?

What was the point of this article... Was is just to appease EA because of the previous article stating that it wasn't successful? I mean it is either a success or not. It can't be both.

**The GIGGAS** · 02-10-2011, 10:02 AM

Re: To EA and Madden Consumers, Madden Is a Success

Originally posted by FlyingFinn

What was the point of this article... Was is just to appease EA because of the previous article stating that it wasn't successful? I mean it is either a success or not. It can't be both.

Point, counterpoint. It's showing both sides of an issue so that readers can come away with their own opinion. This is used everywhere in media.

**EddieV** · 02-10-2011, 11:06 AM

Re: To EA and Madden Consumers, Madden Is a Success

But when no one else shares the same opinion, it tends to come across as trolling on these forums. Even Madden's most ardent backers have a hard time calling it a success.

**Niners5Times** · 02-10-2011, 11:48 AM

ST Choas- you hit it rite on the button with your response.

**The GIGGAS** · 02-10-2011, 12:10 PM

Re: To EA and Madden Consumers, Madden Is a Success

Originally posted by EddieV

But when no one else shares the same opinion, it tends to come across as trolling on these forums. Even Madden's most ardent backers have a hard time calling it a success.

I fail to see how this article trolls anyone. It clearly points out that a fan's idea of success is different than EA's idea of success. EA is very successful with Madden from a economic standpoint. Granted, I feel most of us want the quality of the game to be improved, and I'm sure that EA would agree.

However, EA is still a business, and would like to improve the game in a way to maximize profits. Therefore, massive change isn't smart financially or technically. So they do what's best for the business side and the technical side, which is to take what they have, fix things in the current engine, and build on top of it. That's what incremental development is all about. Refine what works, build new features on top, listen from consumers, and do it all again.

**grunt** · 02-10-2011, 04:12 PM

Re: To EA and Madden Consumers, Madden Is a Success

Madden post patch is a solid game no Madden post patch is a good game.

**Tmann7872** · 02-10-2011, 10:07 PM

If EA wins and consumers lose, then why do consumers keep buying it??? Acording to all of you its because its the only football game on the market. And if that is truly the case then you are all suckers. I will be the first to agree that Gamelow is a gimic and Madden has been more gimic than substance annualy. However, thats because at its core its a good game and EA creates gimics to sell more games...THAT IS THEIR JOB! If you think the game is bad then don't buy it. But what do you do? Buy it every year, just like me. But, I buy it because I don't need gimics to enjoy Madden. It fundementaly is a good football game. As far as competition? How was BackBreaker??? Terrible, Terrible Terrible! But it sits on the shelf next to Madden 9,10,and 11. Because I truly got sucked in to an add campaign that promised revolutionary gameplay but gave me an expirience that couldn't even come close to NFL BLITZ. Arcade style gameplay is not what I want. I don't want basketball on a football field with rediculous WWE tackles. I keep hearing about 2k sports versions of Football 2k8 etc., how did those sell??? Why is Madden a monopoly??? Because 2K could not hold a candle to Madden in any aspect except in graphics. I will admit 2K8 looked better than Madden back then just like BB looks better than Madden today. But you can't put a dress on a pig and tell me its my Prom date! I will gladly agree that Madden is a sucess because its obvious EA has figured out if it aint broke don't fix it. Where as you say it is broke and we as consumers are suckers and keep buying it. I don't agree with this line of thinking...I just don't like to look at one of my favorite websites and read about how I'm a sucker because I enjoy Madden every year. And I have news for those Madden haters that posted above me...I will keep buying it every single year because nobody can compete with EA Sports in Fooball. They have 2 stellar football franchises but yet none of you seem to talk about NCAA when speaking of competition. Because in my opinion the only competiton Madden will ever have is the other football title they put out every single year which, again, I BUY EVERY SINGLE YEAR...but I guess that makes me a sucker!

**StormJH1** · 02-11-2011, 09:39 AM

Well, of course it's a success if you define "success" by sales numbers and adding a few new features. It wouldn't still be produced if those things weren't true. But just like I have little interest in throwing Madden 99 back in for a spin, the Madden games sit on my shelf 2 months after release and fail to capture my interest. Even NCAA 11 (which is FAR from perfect) has far more lasting appeal because the gameplay is now better and there's actual reasons to come back with online dynasty/recruiting, etc

**The GIGGAS** · 02-11-2011, 09:43 AM

Re: To EA and Madden Consumers, Madden Is a Success

Originally posted by Tmann7872

If EA wins and consumers lose, then why do consumers keep buying it??? Acording to all of you its because its the only football game on the market. And if that is truly the case then you are all suckers. I will be the first to agree that Gamelow is a gimic and Madden has been more gimic than substance annualy. However, thats because at its core its a good game and EA creates gimics to sell more games...THAT IS THEIR JOB! If you think the game is bad then don't buy it. But what do you do? Buy it every year, just like me. But, I buy it because I don't need gimics to enjoy Madden. It fundementaly is a good football game. As far as competition? How was BackBreaker??? Terrible, Terrible Terrible! But it sits on the shelf next to Madden 9,10,and 11. Because I truly got sucked in to an add campaign that promised revolutionary gameplay but gave me an expirience that couldn't even come close to NFL BLITZ. Arcade style gameplay is not what I want. I don't want basketball on a football field with rediculous WWE tackles. I keep hearing about 2k sports versions of Football 2k8 etc., how did those sell??? Why is Madden a monopoly??? Because 2K could not hold a candle to Madden in any aspect except in graphics. I will admit 2K8 looked better than Madden back then just like BB looks better than Madden today. But you can't put a dress on a pig and tell me its my Prom date! I will gladly agree that Madden is a sucess because its obvious EA has figured out if it aint broke don't fix it. Where as you say it is broke and we as consumers are suckers and keep buying it. I don't agree with this line of thinking...I just don't like to look at one of my favorite websites and read about how I'm a sucker because I enjoy Madden every year. And I have news for those Madden haters that posted above me...I will keep buying it every single year because nobody can compete with EA Sports in Fooball. They have 2 stellar football franchises but yet none of you seem to talk about NCAA when speaking of competition. Because in my opinion the only competiton Madden will ever have is the other football title they put out every single year which, again, I BUY EVERY SINGLE YEAR...but I guess that makes me a sucker!

If you feel like the game is good, then buy the game. No one is crapping on your ability to do so, or your feelings on the game.

I disagree with you on 2k vs Madden, but that is a conversation we would have to take to a different sub-forum.

I think some on this site can be haters at times, but I think, overall, we all just want Madden to be better. We don't hate on it to hate on it, we hate on it because we see potential, and we want the best from a multi-million dollar company.

Backbreaker was good as it was: a tech demo. It didn't have a super-deep gameplay or franchise component, but it's fun to play and the tech works reasonably well. That is also a success, in my eyes.

I can see what you're saying with the "no one can compete with EA Sports in football" comment, but again, I disagree. In 2004, ESPN NFL 2k5 was competing very well with Madden. Then the NFL made its choice to sell its license to one vendor, EA won, and the rest is history.

As a tip, it is considerate to break up long paragraphs of text so that it is easier to read.

**Boilerbuzz** · 02-12-2011, 01:46 PM

Re: To EA and Madden Consumers, Madden Is a Success

Originally posted by Tmann7872

If EA wins and consumers lose, then why do consumers keep buying it??? Acording to all of you its because its the only football game on the market. And if that is truly the case then you are all suckers.

Wow. Seriously? It's the only NFL licensed game out there and people STARVE for one. And you have to ask this question? They overlook the shortcomings and buy the game. End of story. That doesn't mean the game is good. It means that the game is available.

**Segagendude** · 02-12-2011, 02:13 PM

Re: To EA and Madden Consumers, Madden Is a Success

Meh, I've moved on. As much as I love football, M10 was the last version I bought/probably gonna buy.

Whenever I get the football itch, I pop in M10, but as soon as I see the Tyree catch, poor O/L blocking, and robo CPU qb, I shelve it yet again.

I know I'm just one guy, and EA won't miss my $60. So I'm not making a statement by not buying anymore. Just how I feel.

As for the article, it's been said over and over------Madden's the only NFL game in town, so of course it'll be deemed a success by some, even with the same issues present year after year....

To EA and Madden Consumers, Madden Is a Success

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