EA/NFL Extend NFL Exclusive License by One Year to 2013

[mwjr]

Re: EA/NFL Extend NFL Exclusive License by One Year to 2013

Same game engine through 2014!!!

I guess I'm wondering what foolish person would run out and buy the next tier of console, when sports games for the current systems have not been developed to maximize their potential?

Well, it's not EA's fault or the NFL's fault. It's you the foolish consumer that complains about this game, yet you go out and spend $60, just to trade it in and complain even more. If all the people who complained they didn't like this game, stop buying what they hate so much, then this deal would be worthless.

But you keep buying, so as hard of a pill it is to swallow, it's your fault!!!

I've been saying Rent-before-Buy for the past 3 years, but it seems to be such a hard concept to grasp or folks just have little self control and must go buy.

What's sad is that you buy knowing exactly what your going to get.

Can't get mad, your dollars are the Glue to such a deal.

Hey, if your really "Hardcore" as you say you are, and want authentic football without the gimmicks, then a Non-NFL/NCAA Brand shouldn't really matter to you as long as it's what you see on TV, right?

Maybe one of the writers could do a "Poll" to see how many gamers would buy an authentic football game without the brand names. Let's see what the numbers really look like (as far as on the OS Forum).

Count me as a Buy for "Authentic" Non-Brand Name football!!!

Count me in as well.

I thought that All-Pro was on the right track. A few tweaks to the gameplay, and then a completely fictional league with fictional players and teams featuring a functional franchise mode, and I would've bought it. Still would.

[lofeazy]

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Do you really think the developers are putting forth half the effort? If that happened in my job, I'd be shown the door.

The developers are part of the whole picture. People have a tendency to forget about the marketing department and the suits above. Marketing has a huge input on the game.

Do marketing DO the program for the game?No there a programer that does it.Same with the game sound, anmations,and anything else that the team program in the game.I am sick of hearing MARKETING is at fault.Remeber somebody has to do the things I listed maybe somebody need to start shifting the blame to the Tiburon team.

Like sage said:

I agree, I can't place the entire blame on Tiburon, but my problems with the game this generation(presentation, animations, glitches) seem more like issues on their end rather than EA as a company. I'm sure they have alot of pressure on their shoulders every year to deliver, but that's where the license comes into play. With that sewn up, no matter what type of garbage they put out(not saying Madden is garbage), it's still guaranteed a nice amount of sales, more than the average game at least. Plus it's history helps push this as well.

I'm not dogging Tiburon, but history has proven they can't provide a football game that blurs the lines between reality and video games, and at this point, that is exactly what this game SHOULD be doing.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

[TNT713]

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I'm so happy... Looks like people aren't hurting anyone with their boycotts.

Later

[LiquorLogic]

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What is it 5 or 6 million people who disagree with you? I'm not pleased with being robbed of the opportunity to find out...but I think more people like Madden than don't. That's just reality. YOU ARE NOT THEIR TARGET AUDIENCE.

Madden's sales are on the decline, and have been for years. Madden is a house hold name which also is the only NFL game available. EA's mainstream appeal, and the popularity of the NFL, sells the game more than the quality of the game itself.

[roadman]

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Do marketing DO the program for the game?No there a programer that does it.Same with the game sound, anmations,and anything else that the team program in the game.I am sick of hearing MARKETING is at fault.Remeber somebody has to do the things I listed maybe somebody need to start shifting the blame to the Tiburon team.

Like sage said:

I agree, I can't place the entire blame on Tiburon, but my problems with the game this generation(presentation, animations, glitches) seem more like issues on their end rather than EA as a company. I'm sure they have alot of pressure on their shoulders every year to deliver, but that's where the license comes into play. With that sewn up, no matter what type of garbage they put out(not saying Madden is garbage), it's still guaranteed a nice amount of sales, more than the average game at least. Plus it's history helps push this as well.

I'm not dogging Tiburon, but history has proven they can't provide a football game that blurs the lines between reality and video games, and at this point, that is exactly what this game SHOULD be doing.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Did I say marketing was at all the fault?

People are stating that developers are giving half effort and I just wanted people to know that marketing has a huge say so into what goes into the game. That cannot be denied. As Mesteveo said, it's a baseless acquistion to state people you don't even know in person give half an effort for their work. If people said that on the internet that I didn't give half an effort at my job, I'd say, they don't even know my work situation, I'd ignore it.

Liquor, sorry I agree with Ryan.

You feel the game is inadequate, but there are millions of other people who do purchase the game feel otherwise or else sales would plummet further down.

[ryan36]

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Madden's sales are on the decline, and have been for years. Madden is a house hold name which also is the only NFL game available. EA's mainstream appeal, and the popularity of the NFL sell the game more than the quality of the game itself.

Exactly. I agree with your point above. My point: It's still profitable. It's still an alright game, even after I was really enamored after patch 5, the Show will take it RIGHT out of my system, and maybe MLB2k11.

bottom line is it doesn't matter. EA will be making NFL football for years to come. What's 5 million times 60? 300 million dollars. I doubt anyone on the dev team makes more than 500k. The license is what? 76 mill? That's still mill of profit. If publishing costs , dev costs and shipping costs, etc. total $100 million dollars, there's still $123 million of profit.

[EddieV]

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Exactly. I agree with your point above. My point: It's still profitable. It's still an alright game, even after I was really enamored after patch 5, the Show will take it RIGHT out of my system, and maybe MLB2k11.

bottom line is it doesn't matter. EA will be making NFL football for years to come. What's 5 million times 60? 300 million dollars. I doubt anyone on the dev team makes more than 500k. The license is what? 76 mill? That's still mill of profit. If publishing costs , dev costs and shipping costs, etc. total $100 million dollars, there's still $123 million of profit.

I don't think anywhere close to 5 million people paid $60 for M11. One million of those sales were on PSP/PS2/Wii, first of all. Secondly, there were all kinds of discounted pre-orders this year, and everybody was selling it at $29.99 pretty much from Thanksgiving until Christmas.

[ManiacMatt1782]

I understand the business side of this deal. that doesn't mean I have to like it. And I have written a blog about it. Kudos to the business men involved in the deal lining their pockets. No matter what side of the fense you lean on, There should never be customers happy about news like this. It is never a good idea to not have a choice. Well there is a choice. Buy or don't buy. but there is no purchasing alternative for an NFL game. No-one to put pressure on EA to make the best game they can because they don't wanna lose market share. It is only us the consumer who loses out on this deal. To those applauding this deal, enjoy being robbed of a choice.

[kjcheezhead]

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I see where you're coming from. I would love to have competition because it breeds innovation. My only point was that it wouldn't be as much of an outcry and backlash if EA/Tiburon made an exceptional game. An example for me this year is EA canceling it's basketball game. NBA 2k11 was so good imo I didn't miss not having a choice, this year at least.

I would love for it to go back to the past when we had a choice of games to play. Not just 1 other choice either. I'd love for there to be 3 or 4 NFL sim style games to choose from.

Your right, it wouldn't be as much of an outcry, there should have been tho. Looking back to the original deal, I think I was one of the few guys who were playing Madden 05 and still was really upset about it.

To this day it amazes me how many madden fans seem to relish in the idea that Madden is the only option. I often ask myself if these guys have ever popped in Madden 08 or 09 on ps2 and noticed how much less Madden 11 on current system actually delivered? And they get charged an additional $10-20 to play the new version.

Imo, we have the exclusive license to thank for that and I don't know about anyone else, but knowing 2k fans have no game to play at all doesn't make me feel any better about getting screwed as well.

[kehlis]

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I understand the business side of this deal. that doesn't mean I have to like it. And I have written a blog about it. Kudos to the business men involved in the deal lining their pockets. No matter what side of the fense you lean on, There should never be customers happy about news like this. It is never a good idea to not have a choice. Well there is a choice. Buy or don't buy. but there is no purchasing alternative for an NFL game. No-one to put pressure on EA to make the best game they can because they don't wanna lose market share. It is only us the consumer who loses out on this deal. To those applauding this deal, enjoy being robbed of a choice.

To be fair, I haven't seen any posts (other than sarcastic posts) from people applauding this deal.

Most of the debate in this thread has been a discussion between people who argue it makes no business sense versus people who think it does.

I haven't seen anyone make an argument that it is better for us the gamers.

[SageInfinite]

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Your right, it wouldn't be as much of an outcry, there should have been tho. Looking back to the original deal, I think I was one of the few guys who were playing Madden 05 and still was really upset about it.

To this day it amazes me how many madden fans seem to relish in the idea that Madden is the only option. I often ask myself if these guys have ever popped in Madden 08 or 09 on ps2 and noticed how much less Madden 11 on current system actually delivered? And they get charged an additional $10-20 to play the new version.

Imo, we have the exclusive license to thank for that and I don't know about anyone else, but knowing 2k fans have no game to play at all doesn't make me feel any better about getting screwed as well.

Yea I loved Madden 05 and was pretty upset. I also don't understand how anyone can be happy about this deal that was made(initial and the extension). I guess it's just a selfish mind-state.

[blklightning]

this is beyond ridiculous. so now we have to wait til 2014 to get a good football game. hell, ps4 and xbox 720 will be out before we get another good football title. thanks, nfl.

[md8]

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I dont understand why people blame EA and not the NFL. I mean this is really the NFLs fault EA just had the money to do it.

For me I blame EA more because they are the one not improving the game as much as they could. And when they make improvments, they usually break something else.

Like the running game this year. I never had a problem running in years past, but this year they made it easier. Too easy. There are so many problems with the running game I'm not even going to start naming them.

EA talked about how the completion percentage was too high. So instead of improving the AI so they aren't ******s half the time, they thought it would be a good idea to make your QB miss the WR, or have the WR's drop the ball. Really awesome to have a WR wide open 3 times in a row only to have them drop it 3 straight times.

Why is the game still not as good as '05?? It's because EA knows they can just slowly improve the game each year.

I've always liked Madden more than 2k. But not having that completion has really hurt the game I've loved. Part of that's the NFL's fault, but it's still on EA for not giving a crap about their fans.

[Paytonsplace]

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Folks,

Only the NFL has renewed for another year. The NFLPA has not.

Make of that what you will.

[RedZoneD25]

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^^ Interesting point.