EA/NFL Extend NFL Exclusive License by One Year to 2013

[DarkOmnios]

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I dont mind if Madden will continue to have the NFL license.


Why dont other company make a game with a powerful edit tool??? Madden 11 was ok, after the patch's the game was good to play, problem was the lack of replay. And that is something a company could work without having to think with the license.

[Only1LT]

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I understand the business side of this deal. that doesn't mean I have to like it. And I have written a blog about it. Kudos to the business men involved in the deal lining their pockets. No matter what side of the fense you lean on, There should never be customers happy about news like this. It is never a good idea to not have a choice. Well there is a choice. Buy or don't buy. but there is no purchasing alternative for an NFL game. No-one to put pressure on EA to make the best game they can because they don't wanna lose market share. It is only us the consumer who loses out on this deal. To those applauding this deal, enjoy being robbed of a choice.

To be fair, I haven't seen any posts (other than sarcastic posts) from people applauding this deal.

Most of the debate in this thread has been a discussion between people who argue it makes no business sense versus people who think it does.

I haven't seen anyone make an argument that it is better for us the gamers.

Not to put words in Maniac's mouth, but he may not be talking about comments on this thread, specifically.

I haven't read all the posts on this thread, and don't care to, but there is no doubt that there are people out there, that are happy about Madden being the only NFL game. They are the same types of people that wish for the PS3/360 to fail, so that their console is the only console.

It's all about bragging rights to them, even though they are too moronic to realize that they aren't "part of the team", and the only people that benefit from situations like that are the product makers, and not the consumers.

[Only1LT]

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^^^^

Well kehlis. Now you have your first post about someone being happy about this deal. SMH

[RGiles36]

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I don't think anywhere close to 5 million people paid $60 for M11. One million of those sales were on PSP/PS2/Wii, first of all. Secondly, there were all kinds of discounted pre-orders this year, and everybody was selling it at $29.99 pretty much from Thanksgiving until Christmas.

Tomato - tomata. His point still holds weight. Madden itself is profitable even with the exclusive license.

To this day it amazes me how many madden fans seem to relish in the idea that Madden is the only option. I often ask myself if these guys have ever popped in Madden 08 or 09 on ps2 and noticed how much less Madden 11 on current system actually delivered? And they get charged an additional $10-20 to play the new version.

I know that the previous generation of Madden's offered a layer of depth that is still unmatched on the PS3/360. But beyond that, I'm still shocked at how much praise those games get.

I recall a few years ago that the biggest gripe with Madden was the line play. There was never a pocket -- just a wall of linemen doing the shuffle. This was a big-big-big issue, or at least it was portrayed to be in several forums. Now the line play is better than it has ever been in Madden IMO, yet there is a faction of folks who'll prefer to play the prev gen Madden with the abysmal line play.

Without straying too far off topic, I guess my point is that if realism is what people clamor for in Madden (and they do), how can people enjoy the previous Maddens so much? I think that the current Maddens from a gameplay standpoint are arguably more realistic than the previous gen editions. That doesn't mean today's game is more fun or more balanced -- just talking in terms of realism.

Not at all challenging you KJ, just making a point.

[roadman]

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Tomato - tomata.

I recall a few years ago that the biggest gripe with Madden was the line play. There was never a pocket -- just a wall of linemen doing the shuffle. This was a big-big-big issue, or at least it was portrayed to be in several forums. Now the line play is better than it has ever been in Madden IMO, yet there is a faction of folks who'll prefer to play the prev gen Madden with the abysmal line play.

Without straying too far off topic, I guess my point is that if realism is what people clamor for in Madden (and they do), how can people enjoy the previous Maddens so much? I think that the current Maddens from a gameplay standpoint are arguably more realistic than what the previous gen editions. That doesn't mean today's game is more fun or more balanced -- just talking in terms of realism.

Not at all challenging you KJ, just making a point.

I agree with this.

Presentation is not even close to where it should be, but after Decembers patch, the game play on the field has been real good defensively. I almost tossed the game aside and traded it in before the last patch. I'm glad I didn't as the game is playing some of the best that I've seen.

[Only1LT]

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Tomato - tomata. His point still holds weight. Madden itself is profitable even with the exclusive license.



I know that the previous generation of Madden's offered a layer of depth that is still unmatched on the PS3/360. But beyond that, I'm still shocked at how much praise those games get.

I recall a few years ago that the biggest gripe with Madden was the line play. There was never a pocket -- just a wall of linemen doing the shuffle. This was a big-big-big issue, or at least it was portrayed to be in several forums. Now the line play is better than it has ever been in Madden IMO, yet there is a faction of folks who'll prefer to play the prev gen Madden with the abysmal line play.

Without straying too far off topic, I guess my point is that if realism is what people clamor for in Madden (and they do), how can people enjoy the previous Maddens so much? I think that the current Maddens from a gameplay standpoint are arguably more realistic than what the previous gen editions. That doesn't mean today's game is more fun or more balanced -- just talking in terms of realism.

Not at all challenging you KJ, just making a point.

I agree with this.

Presentation is not even close to where it should be, but after Decembers patch, the game play on the field has been real good defensively. I almost tossed the game aside and traded it in before the last patch. I'm glad I didn't as the game is playing some of the best that I've seen.

I've wondered this myself many times. The only answers I can come up with is either people really care more about the extra modes than gameplay, or pure nostalgia.

As much as I critique Madden 11, I would say that it is probably the best Madden game ever, in terms of gameplay. How anyone can think that PS2 Madden is better, in terms of gameplay, is beyond me.

I don't know. Maybe I'm in the Twilight Zone or something, but as a savvy gamer who's seen a couple decades of gaming evolution, it's hard to look back, critically, and say that Madden was ever a great depiction of the game of Football. It's had the same issues since the very first Madden on consoles.

Having said that, almost none of the issues of the past iterations have been eliminated, but some of them have been at least lessened in subsequent years, so by default, the gameplay is better than it's ever been.

For what ever that's worth.

[illwill10]

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It is seems like the last 6 years(current gen) has been on a rebulding stage . I understood up to Madden 08, but it never took the next step yet. It seems like a 5-11 team up to 08. Madden have been taking baby steps. It seems like there will not be a complete game until there is a another game on the horizon.
I have some faith in MAdden 12. If they can overhaul Franchise, SS, Defense I will be in. This is a big year for most people. There has to be a Huge leap with Madden 12. I never thought I would see a year where NCAA was completely better than Madden, I still play NCAA.
Madden 12 will regardlessly sell well and get high rating from sites that doesnt think highly of them. When you always sell well and get high rating there isnt a huge reason to improve fast.

[EddieV]

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I haven't read all the posts on this thread, and don't care to, but there is no doubt that there are people out there, that are happy about Madden being the only NFL game. They are the same types of people that wish for the PS3/360 to fail, so that their console is the only console.

It's all about bragging rights to them, even though they are too moronic to realize that they aren't "part of the team", and the only people that benefit from situations like that are the product makers, and not the consumers.

This is exactly right, but I saw a lot more defending going on back in 2005 when the deal happened. By this point, it's probably only 1 out of a 100 who are happy about Madden being the only game in town.

[roadman]

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This is exactly right, but I saw a lot more defending going on back in 2005 when the deal happened. By this point, it's probably only 1 out of a 100 who are happy about Madden being the only game in town.

I'm not happy at all about it being the only licensed game in town, but I think you are under estimating the other 5 or 6 million that purchase the game. No way that it is 1 in 100 who are happy.

[EddieV]

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I'm not happy at all about it being the only licensed game in town, but I think you are under estimating the other 5 or 6 million that purchase the game. No way that it is 1 in 100 who are happy.

Didn't say it was 1 out of 100 who are happy with Madden -- but rather, 1 out of 100 who are happy with it being the only game in town.

[roadman]

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Didn't say it was 1 out of 100 who are happy with Madden -- but rather, 1 out of 100 who are happy with it being the only game in town.

Yeah, sorry, I wrote it that way, but I still don't feel that is the case with 5 or 6 other million people.

[adfletch71]

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Do u honestly believe that if Sony or 2k was making a NFL game at this point that madden would have 5 or 6 million people buying it, come on think about it. Probably 35% of the base would be buying 2k or Sony, people would buy madden just for choice, not for necessity of a NFL fix. Madden is the only choice and people are against a rock and a hard place with the license deal. Either u buy Madden or play nothing nothing at all, EA knows this and that's why they are so slow with innovation.

Do u honestly believe that franchise mode would be untouched if another developer was coming out with a game or the terrible OL/DL interactions and animations. Ian and EA can slack on anything they want and say we could get too it at this time and u have too wait till next year, what we going too do get another choice in the matter? EA sports knows this and they using it for there advantage not ours.

[LiquorLogic]

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Exactly. I agree with your point above. My point: It's still profitable. It's still an alright game, even after I was really enamored after patch 5, the Show will take it RIGHT out of my system, and maybe MLB2k11.

bottom line is it doesn't matter. EA will be making NFL football for years to come. What's 5 million times 60? 300 million dollars. I doubt anyone on the dev team makes more than 500k. The license is what? 76 mill? That's still mill of profit. If publishing costs , dev costs and shipping costs, etc. total $100 million dollars, there's still $123 million of profit.

Oh it matters. When you consider the fact that EA was selling more units without the exclusive license, what's the point of paying expensive fee ?

Their approach hasn't increased their sales; wasn't that point of the exclusive license ? Is EA that scared of competition ?

[EddieV]

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Oh it matters. When you consider the fact that EA was selling more units without the exclusive license, what's the point of paying expensive fee ?

Their approach hasn't increased their sales; wasn't that point of the exclusive license ?

Exactly.


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[Mr5000]

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"Do u honestly believe that if Sony or 2k was making a NFL game at this point that madden would have 5 or 6 million people buying it, come on think about it."

Why would that be so hard to believe. They sold that many copies of Madden 2005, and they had competition. They sold 4 million copies of Madden 08 with another football game on the market(that just so happened to be made by 2k sports)

It wouldn't matter if there was another NFL game on the market, people would still buy Madden in large numbers. That's just how it is man.