MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

**tvman** · 02-22-2011, 11:06 AM

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

Originally posted by Pared

This wasn't a poor video at all. It oozes baseball. If you're looking for the NBA All-Star game, you're in the wrong place.

Don't back-tread on a great product.

People are doing the same thing they do every year - get hyped about a feature set, complain, watch videos, complain, whine how they are not getting the game, complain, buy the game early somewhere, claim how much they love the game, it's the best ever, will take off of work just to play it, find one thing "wrong" and obsess over it, complain, say X company MUST release a patch because the game is unplayable now, complain, wait until they release a patch, complain, get the patch the minute it's available, complain PSN is too slow, rejoice on how one thing is fixed but can't believe "they didn't fix blank," complain, get bored with the game, complain it's not the best ever, trade it in, complain, move onto another title and start the cycle again in 6 months when new information is released.

Same ole, same ole.

Sounds like you missed out on your morning coffee.

**Pared** · 02-22-2011, 11:14 AM

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

No, I just understand the non-sense that happens here yearly. Think of me as an AA counselor.

**Super Glock** · 02-22-2011, 11:22 AM

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

Originally posted by Pared

This wasn't a poor video at all. It oozes baseball. If you're looking for the NBA All-Star game, you're in the wrong place.

Don't back-tread on a great product.

People are doing the same thing they do every year - get hyped about a feature set, complain, watch videos, complain, whine how they are not getting the game, complain, buy the game early somewhere, claim how much they love the game, it's the best ever, will take off of work just to play it, find one thing "wrong" and obsess over it, complain, say X company MUST release a patch because the game is unplayable now, complain, wait until they release a patch, complain, get the patch the minute it's available, complain PSN is too slow, rejoice on how one thing is fixed but can't believe "they didn't fix blank," complain, get bored with the game, complain it's not the best ever, trade it in, complain, move onto another title and start the cycle again in 6 months when new information is released.

Same ole, same ole.

Wow great post. The truth has been spoken. People quit whining, this game is going to be great.

**econoodle** · 02-22-2011, 11:27 AM

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

Originally posted by Knight165

Right?
I actually wish...they would start a franchise game......sim late into the season and pick a matchup, letting the CPU play the CPU and just use that. Let it play for the last 3 innings and we'll just watch.
Everything the CPU does...is possible with the USER.
I know....they want to show off the new controls...but I'd just like to see the gameplay untouched!

M.K.
Knight165

thats exactly what i would love to see!
we never get that type of video from them. its always Play Nows.
for the franchise/presentation nuts, it would be perfect.

**WAZ** · 02-22-2011, 11:34 AM

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

Uh, that video was bull****. Did you see Soriano field that ball cleanly in the corner? I thought this was supposed to be a sim?!?

Pre-order... cancelled.

**Black59Razr** · 02-22-2011, 11:54 AM

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

The video showed a game time temperature of 90 degrees. Has anyone seen anything about this effecting ball flight?

**buboloco** · 02-22-2011, 12:02 PM

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

I liked it!!! Im buying... the only thing that concerns me its the commentary, but that can be muted and just leave the stadium ambiance... I think the game looks amazing!

**Knight165** · 02-22-2011, 12:04 PM

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

Originally posted by Black59Razr

The video showed a game time temperature of 90 degrees. Has anyone seen anything about this effecting ball flight?

I don't know if heat does or not.
Actually, I'm not sure what park effects are in place except for wind.

On the video and some of the posts.
There are the obvious posters who aren't interested in The Show and were just waiting for a gameplay vid to drop and were salivating to post on the commentary or anything they could grasp on negatively. It's expected....they are there(not the same guys in particular...but "that type") every single year.
Then you have the OCD guys.....who just HAVE TO focus on one thing and will never really be happy about it.
Then the "homers"....who would love anything.
Weed them out and listen to the level headed guys....and you'll have an idea of what this game is about.

The amount of complete B.S. and nonsense this year however really surprises me....hmmm...maybe not.

But...we're gonna need more WHAAAMBULANCES....STAT!

M.K.
Knight165

**brrmikey** · 02-22-2011, 12:15 PM

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

loved the video. one thing that i hoped was changed, hasn't. in '10, things seem out of sequence in many cut scenes when playing that game using the broadcast presentation. in the video, after the final strikeout, the catcher runs up to the pitcher for congrats...they are pretty close to each other. then a cut scene shows the pitcher walking towards the catcher and it seems a bit disjointed...hard to explain. i wish it was a bit more jointed because i just can't get into Real-Time presentation because of all the missing "baseball" small things. Does anyone know what i'm talking about?

Thanks.

**jestep123** · 02-22-2011, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by brrmikey

loved the video. one thing that i hoped was changed, hasn't. in '10, things seem out of sequence in many cut scenes when playing that game using the broadcast presentation. in the video, after the final strikeout, the catcher runs up to the pitcher for congrats...they are pretty close to each other. then a cut scene shows the pitcher walking towards the catcher and it seems a bit disjointed...hard to explain. i wish it was a bit more jointed because i just can't get into Real-Time presentation because of all the missing "baseball" small things. Does anyone know what i'm talking about?

Thanks.

Absolutely 100% agree. Not a game killer but kind of annoying and again, it seems a little sloppy and this brings up a point.

I agree with Knight about being level headed however, to me, that also means that no matter how much you love the series you have to remove bias. We ALL know this is the best baseball game out there. SCEA fans know it, 2k fans know it, EA fans know it, my momma knows it...lol, but just because it is already highly regarded and acclaimed doesnt mean it should get a free pass.

Sometimes I think this game is its own worst enemy. The VAST majority of this game is so well done. Because of that, when you hear commetary like this and you see disjointed cut scenes that force you to play the game another way to avoid them, it really does make you scratch your head a little bit. I am sorry,I dont want to say it because I love the game and want it to be the best, but some things in the game look sloppy. I think they get overlooked or brushed aside alot because of the overall package but they are still there. Not only that, they arent game killers but at least the two things I mentioned here arent exactly minor either.

There are critical responses on here and some of them are a little over the top, but some of them are on the screws with regard to at least raising an eyebrow toward being concerned.

**Golds** · 02-22-2011, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by brrmikey

loved the video. one thing that i hoped was changed, hasn't. in '10, things seem out of sequence in many cut scenes when playing that game using the broadcast presentation. in the video, after the final strikeout, the catcher runs up to the pitcher for congrats...they are pretty close to each other. then a cut scene shows the pitcher walking towards the catcher and it seems a bit disjointed...hard to explain. i wish it was a bit more jointed because i just can't get into Real-Time presentation because of all the missing "baseball" small things. Does anyone know what i'm talking about?

Thanks.

Yes, I posted this exact observation earlier this morning. That's the only thing I didn't like about this video... And before Pared murders me, no I'm not some insane OCD gamer complaining :-b. This game looks so good and I'm even more excited that I didn't buy '10, so this year will feel like a HUGE improvement. I think this one will be one of those sports games where I will have no trouble staying interested in for a long season of baseball.

**emath** · 02-22-2011, 12:45 PM

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

Originally posted by Black59Razr

The video showed a game time temperature of 90 degrees. Has anyone seen anything about this effecting ball flight?

I saw your post in the thread they closed. As a 36 year long Cub fan, I don't think temperature has anything to do with how the ball carries, per se (heard that said, never saw it spelled out. Don't know if it's right, but you get the point).

I think the fact is that when the weather starts to warm up, the wind tends to be blowing out, or more calm in general. Colder days the wind usually blows in off the lake.

Of course, cold weather tends to favor pitchers anyway (not just Wrigley).

Now, maybe that was the point you were trying to make, I don't know. I will say, it would be nice if things like that could be implemented into the game though.

**Greene_Flash03** · 02-22-2011, 01:00 PM

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

Originally posted by Segagendude

I'm disappointed. Looks exactly like '10, complete with the same commentary.

Don't see how this justifies another $60 from me. Oh well, just one man's opinion.......

Same here. I might keep The Show 10 and get 2K11 for my baseball fix this year..

Don't get me wrong, the game is STILL gorgeous. BUT commentary needs work (big deal for me) and the replay camera angles are from PS2 days (is it not?)

Another thing that I really like in 2k baseball that is not in The Show is that in 2k, pitchers have specific animations after the pitch. (Pitcher mannerism perhaps?) I can't really explain... it just looks organic..

**K_GUN** · 02-22-2011, 01:01 PM

Re: MLB 11 The Show Video: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs (Gameplay)

Originally posted by emath

I saw your post in the thread they closed. As a 36 year long Cub fan, I don't think temperature has anything to do with how the ball carries, per se (heard that said, never saw it spelled out. Don't know if it's right, but you get the point).

actually it does

cold air is very dense...warm air is not

on a 45 degree day...a baseball that travels 400 feet would actually travel 420 feet on a 95 degree day.

**SeerMagicX** · 02-22-2011, 01:07 PM

Originally posted by Joey

Your statements make no sense to me. So you've been playing the series for 10 years and say it's boring, analog controls and custom cameras are no good, blah, blah, blah, not enough to get you to come back. Analog controls (for this series) apparently aren't groundbreaking enough for you to purchase this year's game (although that certainly isn't the only new or improved feature) so I have to ask...What were the big features that brought you back the other 9 years?

Maybe boring was the wrong word, stale would be better. Well first 5 years or so were great, though I did play high heat aswell. Things really changed when 2k8 came out, post patch that game was awesome. Pitching & hitting was so much fun, and fielding had a good feel too. After that it was really hard to play the show, with only RTTS getting playing time. Reason I keep getting them year after year now is hoping the new features are enough. So far they havn't been and I usually sale the game after a few months. But they have been the only option as 2k games have been broken in one way or another.

I'll hold final judgment after playing the demo, but the new controls are hardly groundbreaking. The analog pitching looks EXACTLY like rock n fire pitching from NCAA 06.. EXACTLY the same. It was cool at first, but it got old fast in NCAA. Hitting seems to borrow heavily from 2k8, which is fine because I really enjoyed it. However, if it's like last year's game where dice rolls determine what you do instead of how you hit the ball, it won't matter.

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