MLB 11 The Show - Overall Team Rankings

[McCannFann]

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When it comes to the Braves, Freddie Freeman will surely be under-valued. Venters and Craig Kimbrel are probably undervalued as well. I also sense people undervaluing Heyward. He slowed down quite a bit at the end of last season, but still put up a 5.0 WAR and 131 OPS+. And yes, that's better than Buster Posey. In the ratings scale, I think he's a legit "A" player right now.

I agree with you until you got here.

Still, Chipper Jones is on the decline. Prado is overrated. Uggla is a ghastly defensive second baseman. And Lowe is brutal. So, there are some holes there.

Prado is not overrated. I think he's got potential to be a true number three hitter very soon.

Uggla isn't nearly as bad with a glove as he gets a wrap for. He's certainly at least average. He gets knocked on because he looked so bad in that one All-Star game, but if you look at his numbers, he played much better defense away from Sun Life Stadium (or whatever heck it's being called this year).

TalkingChop.com had the splits on this. They were taking it all with a grain of salt, but said a few possible reasons he committed so many errors might have to do with having fairly poor defensive 1st basemen, as well as a pretty shoddy infield at Sun Life. He committed far fewer errors on the road than he did at home, so we'll have to see. If he plays defense half as good as he hits at Turner Field, then we'll be just fine. His numbers at the Ted are ridiculous.

And Lowe was looking pretty inconsistent until September, when he started pitching more like the real Derek Lowe. I think he'll be good this year. And even if he's not, he always manages to attract ridiculous amounts of run support.

[ZakDodge15]

Lester over Oswalt, Pedroia over Utley, Adrian over Howard and Buchholz over Hamels. Red Sox deserve that top spot.

[brinks]

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I agree with you until you got here.



Prado is not overrated. I think he's got potential to be a true number three hitter very soon.

Uggla isn't nearly as bad with a glove as he gets a wrap for. He's certainly at least average. He gets knocked on because he looked so bad in that one All-Star game, but if you look at his numbers, he played much better defense away from Sun Life Stadium (or whatever heck it's being called this year).

TalkingChop.com had the splits on this. They were taking it all with a grain of salt, but said a few possible reasons he committed so many errors might have to do with having fairly poor defensive 1st basemen, as well as a pretty shoddy infield at Sun Life. He committed far fewer errors on the road than he did at home, so we'll have to see. If he plays defense half as good as he hits at Turner Field, then we'll be just fine. His numbers at the Ted are ridiculous.

And Lowe was looking pretty inconsistent until September, when he started pitching more like the real Derek Lowe. I think he'll be good this year. And even if he's not, he always manages to attract ridiculous amounts of run support.

I won't argue with you except to say Uggla's UZR stands on its own. Prado is emerging as a sound hitter-- a future number 3 hitter on a real good team he is not. Lowe had two sub 100 ERA+ seasons in a row-- 100 is average. Curious if you have defenses lined up for McLouth and Alex Gonzalez?

Look, the Braves will be good. Solid line-up. Two really good starters in Hudson and Hanson. Maybe Jair Jurrjens if he's healthy will give them a great top 3. My moneys on Mike Minor being a more valuable piece than Lowe as this season goes.

[Sports fanantic]

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Alright Giants Rank 3rd Overall. Go World Champ San Francisco Giants!!!

[CabreraMVP]

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If the braves "Holes" are their 30 homerun a season 2nd basemen, their .300 hitting all star who can play everywhere, and Chippper, I like their chances.

Seriously how is Prado overrated and a hole with their team? In the past 4 years he has never posted an OPS lower than .800 and never hit lower than .290

[AtlBraves09]

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I won't argue with you except to say Uggla's UZR stands on its own. Prado is emerging as a sound hitter-- a future number 3 hitter on a real good team he is not. Lowe had two sub 100 ERA+ seasons in a row-- 100 is average. Curious if you have defenses lined up for McLouth and Alex Gonzalez?

Look, the Braves will be good. Solid line-up. Two really good starters in Hudson and Hanson. Maybe Jair Jurrjens if he's healthy will give them a great top 3. My moneys on Mike Minor being a more valuable piece than Lowe as this season goes.

- Lowe has managed to pick up 15 wins since being in Atl... not that brutal to me. I think Heyward is the future #3 hitter of this team and Prado is finally getting credit for how good he is and has been. The guy was never projected to be more than a utility player however, he has put up .300 BA and has been a plus defender. He has also looked good in the outfield so far. I think were the third best team in the NL running neck and neck with Col. Phillies are going to be tough, but we usually give them trouble through the year. Giants are going to be good again, going to be a fun year to watch baseball. I have never really been all that impressed with the Cards. Just Pujols who I think inflates their rating a bit.

[loganmorrison1]

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Marlins rated lower than the Mets? Are you kidding me? /facepalm

Absolutely ridiculous, but I'm used to it by now, Marlins EVERY YEAR GET SCREWED

[jd369]

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If the braves "Holes" are their 30 homerun a season 2nd basemen, their .300 hitting all star who can play everywhere, and Chippper, I like their chances.

Seriously how is Prado overrated and a hole with their team? In the past 4 years he has never posted an OPS lower than .800 and never hit lower than .290

You cant talk logic with someone that thinks that lol. It just shows they know nothing about the game and are a braves h-ater. That would be like me saying shane victorino is a terrible defensive center fielder (which of course he isnt) because I hate the phillies.

[Raskal]

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I don't want to get into what I think the team ranking should be because it's just going to end up becoming a "my team is better than yours" thread.

That said, the Phillies are better than the Giants top to bottom

I'm pretty sure the whole point of this thread is to argue about why your team should be ranked higher, and that's what makes it so great to read.

Oh how things might be different if Ryan Howard would actually swing the bat with his team's season on the line.

[jvalverde88]

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Here is the deal people, the rankings are not based on what teams did last year. They are based on the calculation of ratings of each player on every position on each team. So the reason the Giants are not rated higher than the Yankees or Red Sox is because the both teams have high rated players on the offensive side than the Giants and this is just a example.

[Sports fanantic]

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I'm pretty sure the whole point of this thread is to argue about why your team should be ranked higher, and that's what makes it so great to read.

Oh how things might be different if Ryan Howard would actually swing the bat with his team's season on the line.

c'mon don't blame Howard for ending the year for the phillies. it was all Brian "Fear the Beard" Wilson for smoking him with that 99 mph fastball!!

[jd369]

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c'mon don't blame Howard for ending the year for the phillies. it was all Brian "Fear the Beard" Wilson for smoking him with that 99 mph fastball!!

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that commercial cracks me up every time!

[Raskal]

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Here is the deal people, the rankings are not based on what teams did last year. They are based on the calculation of ratings of each player on every position on each team. So the reason the Giants are not rated higher than the Yankees or Red Sox is because the both teams have high rated players on the offensive side than the Giants and this is just a example.

You're right but at the same time you're naive to think that last year's World Series run did not boost the attributes of some of the Giants players therefore making them ranked higher than most people want them.

[jvalverde88]

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You're right but at the same time you're naive to think that last year's World Series run did not boost the attributes of some of the Giants players therefore making them ranked higher than most people want them.

I understand what you mean but if they did that the past 3 years (which is how player attributes are distributed) you would have a point.

[mlblover15]

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i see that a lot of people have been noting the twins low ranking in the game. doesn't anyone realize that over the course of the last .. what.. 4-5 years no one has expected the twins to be anywhere near the top of the division.

well as we have all seen that follow baseball even remotely closely, is that they have been lying in the weeds just lurking around like vipers ready to strike. they are off of everyone's radar and then BAM! they strike come the end of August and the start of September.

over the course of the last several years when i hear the proponents glaze over the AL Central and say who is going to win it before the season begins i always say to myself "just ignore it, we all know the twins will be right there in the end, making that last month stretch run."

so i think that if they were looking at the over all last month ranking the twins would be in the top 8. seeing how they are always in the hunt or in the playoffs every year lately.

im waiting for one person to sim out a season and have it be what everyone is calling for this October, and that is..The Boston Red Sox Vs. the Philadelphia Phillies.