Top Spin 4 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

[Chryves]

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Thk u big Help. I created a new US account and i get it now.

[PAPERNUT]

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Good news from Ronnie2K on twitter earlier. Said the demos were on an easier difficulty level than normal and the retail will have more settings/options when it hits. I still have an issue with the serving as we should see more aces even from Fed from time to time, but this is common for this series. Would like to see more errors and miss-hits as well.

Still not a gamebreaker as I love the Signature style of the players and the gameplay seems to be well balanced all around to make for a fun game. Can only hope the servers will handle this one well.

[2slik]

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First impressions are promising. Gameplay is much faster which is exactly what the game needed to be. The in-game helpers are a nice touch but I turned them off in the first game because it was visually distracting.
Atmosphere has definitely improved. The Agassi Murray videos on youtube were worring because of how disinterested the crowed seemed but it the demo it's pretty good. There was a point where I was Federer playing against Nadal and I had come to the net and Nadal was trying to pass me but I kept on coming up with volleys, which made the crowd noise get louder and more surprised, until I made a winning volley and the crowd erupted. Great moment.
Volleys do seem to be a bit too easy though. I like the addition of the drop volley.

Must frustrating part of the game though are lack of aces and unrealistically low unforced errors. The aiming with the analogue stick doesn't seem that sensitive because I can never get the ball to go really wide on either side when serving. On top of that 95% of my shots go in and the ball never hit the net. I basically have to deliberately mess up my serve to get a net call. This was all on Hard level. I'm sure this is so that people are not put by it being too difficult like with what happened in TS3

I just hope that harder levels are immediately available in the full game other wise I don't think I can be bothered bagelling several opponents to unlock harder levels.

[paulitix]

I understand the calls for commentary but it is extremely difficult to execute if they are trying to realistically represent of tennis in a videogame...

Tennis commentary comes primarily in-between points with very little said during actual gameplay...(the same commentary phonomenon as golf commentators whispering while guys are putting). The question is, are you willing to allow 20 seconds in between points to allow the comentators to do their thing? Or are you pressing X to get to the next point...

If your answer is what I think it is (the same as mine)...thats a TON of work in order to implement something thats just gonna elicit smiles for the first few points on March 15th, and then be taken for granted until Top Spin 5

[tinpanalley]

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One thing that I just noticed that is going to be really awkward with the Move. Nadal is a lefty. If you're right handed, and the game has true one to one movement, will you have to swing a forehand to get him to hit a backhand? And if not, won't it just be confusing to swing a right handed forehand and watch him swing a left handed forehand? With a normal controller (baseball batters, for example) you don't notice because the controls are not relative to the on screen character. But in this case, it may cause confusion akin to rubbing your belly and tapping your head at the same time.
Any thoughts?

[VinylOne]

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Nice to see it out there, will d/l and play asap

[ocho cuatro]

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I just had my first long rally, and the murmurs/anticipation of the crowd was fantastic.

They've done a lot of little things to improve the ambience.

[Smallberries]

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I basically have to deliberately mess up my serve to get a net call. This was all on Hard level. I'm sure this is so that people are not put by it being too difficult like with what happened in TS3.

Huh? Not sure what game you were playing, but serving in TS3 was incredibly easy. In other words, terrible and overly simplistic. Very few aces, for either you or your AI opponent.

This demo shows some promise. I just don't like how crappy the serving is. And I'm worried that once you get the hang of it, rallies will be no big deal either. Also, I'm not overly impressed with the player models. While they bear a resemblance to their real-life counterparts, they're just not very organic. Their skin looks off, like something you'd have seen last generation, and there's no fluidity or movement to their attire. Animations look good, although someone here mentioned that the developer failed to include players' real life serving motions. I didn't really pay attention to that in the demo, but if so, that sucks.

Tennis commentary comes primarily in-between points with very little said during actual gameplay...(the same commentary phonomenon as golf commentators whispering while guys are putting). The question is, are you willing to allow 20 seconds in between points to allow the comentators to do their thing? Or are you pressing X to get to the next point...

I definitely think there's 5-10 seconds of time between points where a goof like Brad Gilbert could give his 2 cents. And then there are replays, which give plenty of time for game/point analysis. The point is that it provides another layer of immersion, which is missing in this game. To skip the commentary with a press of a button or to listen to it...I'd rather have the option than not.

[CMH]

Loved the demo.

Still not seeing aces and the only time I had an ace against me is when I just lazily approached the shot and never swung the racket.

It was very disheartening to place a serve in a perfect spot that forced the returner to run out of bounds and reach only to have the ball land safely across the net as if it were some regular old return.

Aces simply can't exist properly in this manner.

I have yet to see an unforced error in the statistics. Either they aren't being collected properly or I don't know what an unforced error is. Is it possible to not have a winner and not have an unforced error on the same point?

Everything else is great to me. I like the animations, the graphics, the control scheme.


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[BlueNGold]

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I don't know much about tennis, but I do know that this game (demo) is awesome.

[Rules]

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Would of liked to see a difference with how the ball reacts on the two different surfaces. Clay should have less bounce and slower movement. Didn't notice any difference but the demo is still good.

[Alistair]

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I have yet to see an unforced error in the statistics. Either they aren't being collected properly or I don't know what an unforced error is. Is it possible to not have a winner and not have an unforced error on the same point?

Yes, it is.

Why do you think they use the term "unforced" to distinguish types of errors?

Let's say you blast a forehand down the line which your opponent is forced to stretch for and returns over the baseline. This by definition is a "forced" error because you asked your opponent to hit a difficult shot, which they were unable to do. But it wasn't a clean winner either...

[at23steelers]

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Federer keeps popping it up to Nadal, because I am hitting strong shots, but what are the controls to do an overhead? All he does is a weak forehand or a weak volley.

[Randiesel75]

I'm loving this game, so much that I just preordered on Amazon. For those unaware, the preorder now comes with free release date shipping and a $20 credit to your account.

[rangerrick012]

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One thing about aces - I understand people being frustrated by not seeing them, but at the same time you have to realize that aces aren't really that prevalent and that it's far often the unreturnable serve or short ball for an easy winner than just a clean ace. Outside of the guys like Roddick, Isner, Karlovic, the best servers on the ATP tour usually average only 10 aces a match at most. Federer only averages about 6 aces a match, Nadal only about 4, Djokovic only about 7.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/MatchFacts.aspx

Again,not saying that lack of aces isn't a potential problem, just that I'd much rather have it like that then every serve being like Roddicks. And in the demo it's still possible to get the big serve in using the right stick serving, even if its not for aces.

I'm loving this game, so much that I just preordered on Amazon. For those unaware, the preorder now comes with free release date shipping and a $20 credit to your account.

Was going to post this yesterday, wasn't sure where to put it. But yeah thanks for sharing, $20 credit is definitely a great deal, I'll probably use it for TW 12.

Would of liked to see a difference with how the ball reacts on the two different surfaces. Clay should have less bounce and slower movement. Didn't notice any difference but the demo is still good.

Actually the ball usually bounces higher on clay IRL. One of the reasons why Nadal is so dominant on it, the top spin he produces is pretty much unmatched and makes it difficult for his opponents.

Federer keeps popping it up to Nadal, because I am hitting strong shots, but what are the controls to do an overhead? All he does is a weak forehand or a weak volley.

You use RB to get into the net. Usually when you play a good shot that forces your opponent off the court, come in to anticipate the weak return and put away the easy volley.