MLB 11 The Show 40-Man Roster Ratings: American League East

[Golds]

Has anyone noticed the huge amount of 1/1 contracts there are on the teams? Are those accurate? It seems like a TON, I guess I'll have to put my GM hat on in the off season for my Yankees.

[andrewochs615]

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No vlad on the O's?

[Rodrian]

I don't get how Jon Lester never get's the rating he deserves. I allways thought it's because the ratings conclude stats from the last three years but after his last 3 season there is no way he still isn't one of the three best Redsox players. Other than that it looks all right, can't wait to play the game and kill the yankees

[Trevytrev11]

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They can not make the contacts close. It is a legal issue with the license. So as much as everyone would like to think they can, they can not.

I've read this several times and definitely believe this is true.

However, it seems silly that this confines to some sort of legal issue, when anyone can go on to any one of several websites and figure out any players salary (I'm not saying it's a silly excuse, just a silly law since the info is so publicly available).

I'm not sure what the true rules are and how tight they are held to them, but it seems like the could scale everything by 75% or 50% of real life, but maybe that is too obvious. At minimum, it would be nice to have them at least some what comparale from player to player (If A-Rod makes more than Sabathia in real life, then he should make more than Sabathia in the game).

With all of that being said, I do have a few questions regarding how some of these things are handled.

1) Looking at the Yankee's salaries, I can see that in total, the are likely a lot lower than they real life Yankee's. With that being said, do the Yankee's have a lower budget to match? Or do they still have a $200M+ budget which would give them an even bigger budget than they really have.

2) Are free agent contracts comparable to current contracts? If Cano is making $6.0M, is he going to become a free agent and turn around and ask for $20.0M, which is way more than A-Rod, Tex and Sabathia? Or is it fair to assume that those are going to be pretty much max contracts.

(Note, I see Pujols is making $16.8M, which I imagine is tops).

3) I guess the main question is whether teams have realistic budgets given the varying salaries and with the lower than real-life salaries, do the guidelines kind of go down as well.

I understand that they can't match the real life salaries, but it'd be cool if they could some how just scale them back to a certain factor to keep things a little more realisitic...The $13.3 that A-Rod is making isn't probably going to handicap the Yankee's in years 5, 6 and 7 like they would in real life.

[maddguuns]

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They can not make the contacts close. It is a legal issue with the license. So as much as everyone would like to think they can, they can not.

But they CAN make them proportional. If ARod makes X% more than Jeter, and Jeter makes X% more than Gardner; then that proportionality should be represented.

[pay26]

Alfredo Aceves is not on the list of red sox?

[jd369]

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Money has never really bothered me, but years on a contract has. If the years on a contract are the correct number then they can put it at whatever money about they want and there would be no legal issue since it is not an exact copy of the players current contract.

[hysteria499]

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Vlad hadn't signed with the o's yet when they made the roster for the game. but when you get the game and do the roster upload from connect he will probably be on the team.

[sink4ever]

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But they CAN make them proportional. If ARod makes X% more than Jeter, and Jeter makes X% more than Gardner; then that proportionality should be represented.

You actually don't know that (unless of course you've read the legal documents that prohibit SCEA from putting in the correct salaries). Heck, EA was facing some issues with their college football game because the players in the game were approximations of real players (even though they weren't named). I imagine that to stay safe SCEA needs to make sure that the salaries in the game can't be too obviously tied to the real salaries.

[maddguuns]

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You actually don't know that (unless of course you've read the legal documents that prohibit SCEA from putting in the correct salaries). Heck, EA was facing some issues with their college football game because the players in the game were approximations of real players (even though they weren't named). I imagine that to stay safe SCEA needs to make sure that the salaries in the game can't be too obviously tied to the real salaries.

Fortunately I do know that SCEA can do this. After working for three different professional organizations in both marketing and legal, and studying many court cases, I can say, with 100% certainty, that proportional salaries can be done (unless there is some programming or design reason hindering it).

The issue here is whether or not a person's contracted salary is an individually identifiable characteristic. There are quite a few cases where the interpretation is that salary is not.

But, on a bigger level, use of a likeness in a creative work is protected under the first amendment, which is why it is entirely legal for you, me, or anyone to write a biography on any other person so sell for profit; their permission is not required. That's why journalists can write articles about athletes.

In this case, all that needs to be done is for SCEA to find a way for salaries to be based on more than just overall rating. Which it seems they don't.

[sink4ever]

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Fortunately I do know that SCEA can do this. After working for three different professional organizations in both marketing and legal, and studying many court cases, I can say, with 100% certainty, that proportional salaries can be done (unless there is some programming or design reason hindering it).

The issue here is whether or not a person's contracted salary is an individually identifiable characteristic. There are quite a few cases where the interpretation is that salary is not.

But, on a bigger level, use of a likeness in a creative work is protected under the first amendment, which is why it is entirely legal for you, me, or anyone to write a biography on any other person so sell for profit; their permission is not required. That's why journalists can write articles about athletes.

In this case, all that needs to be done is for SCEA to find a way for salaries to be based on more than just overall rating. Which it seems they don't.

You may certainly be right, I'm sure you know a lot more about the subject matter than I do. It's probably useless for me to theorize as to the exact reason SCEA can't create "close" salaries. I do wonder about the bolded part, though. Obviously SCEA can have the likeness of a player in regards to their face, name, etc. The big exception is salary.

Oh well, enough of this thread getting off track. I'll probably release and re-sign various Yankees and big name players before starting my franchise in order to get at least get the years close.

[PowerPitcher]

I mean, I do get your point. But when you act like the sky is falling, you're point kind of loses any validity. It's not game-breaking. I am a huge fan of accurate contracts (which that other game does have), but I'd take great gameplay over accurate contracts any day of the week.

What part of my comment suggested I was worried the sky was falling?
After reading other peoples comments here, I believe it IS possible for them to use their contracts...if they can use their NAMES..stances..tattoos...etc..they SHOULD be able to use their contracts...If you are looking for "great game play" well then nothing beats "realism"

[EnigmaNemesis]

What part of my comment suggested I was worried the sky was falling?
After reading other peoples comments here, I believe it IS possible for them to use their contracts...if they can use their NAMES..stances..tattoos...etc..they SHOULD be able to use their contracts...If you are looking for "great game play" well then nothing beats "realism"

If they could do it, don't you think they would?

I was at the CE, we were told they were not allowed to have contracts close due to the licensing agreement.

Case closed. Really!

[PowerPitcher]

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If they could do it, don't you think they would?

I was at the CE, we were told they were not allowed to have contracts close due to the licensing agreement.

Case closed. Really!

I have been TOLD lots of things by lots of people, it doesn't make it true...it could just as easily be a copout...but there is no point in arguing any further over something I have no control over...I just wish more effort had been put into it.

[sportsnut1124]

hey new guy here, I feel really stupid im opening the page up where are all the ratings man if someone could help that would be awesome. going to get the show tuesday first baseball game im going to get in years can't wait