Madden's Current Gen Has Not Been a Success

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If McDonald's was the ONLY fast food joint in the country, they'd be considered a success as well.....no matter how tired (and fat) we'd all get eating nothing but Big Mac's.....

[roadman]

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They're still netting over $100 million (the game doesn't cost $30 million to make nor do they spend $10 million advertising it) annually. No matter how you try your damnedest to whittle it down, EA is making a lot of money. There are studios that never even touch that kind of money.

If you say so.

What's you point? I'm trying to whittle it down and you are getting upset. You are trying to whittle it up and it's not bothering me at all.

We each have our different opinions, time to move on and out.

[SpeedyMikeWallace]

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If you say so.

What's you point? I'm trying to whittle it down and you are getting upset. You are trying to whittle it up and it's not bothering me at all.

We each have our different opinions, time to move on and out.

My point is that the game makes a lot of money, which it does.

I'm not getting upset, at all. I'm just trying to show you that the game makes EA a lot of money, even with all of the costs.

Facts are not a matter of opinion. It either is or it isn't. EA is making a lot of money off of Madden.

[lofeazy]

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If McDonald's was the ONLY fast food joint in the country, they'd be considered a success as well.....no matter how tired (and fat) we'd all get eating nothing but Big Mac's.....

Thats is so true.(To bad some people can't see that.)

[kjcheezhead]

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They're still netting over $100 million (the game doesn't cost $30 million to make nor do they spend $10 million advertising it) annually. No matter how you try your damnedest to whittle it down, EA is making a lot of money. There are studios that never even touch that kind of money.

All of your numbers are based on actual sales. Your leaving out dlc like Madden moments, MUT cards, online franchise, elite status, afl packs, franchise boosts, not to mention advertising revenue from old spice, doritos, snickers, subway and they also get revenue from the facebook app.

All this money is collected annually off a game that requires much less in development since they are simply building off a core game designed 6 years ago and not starting from scratch.

[roadman]

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My point is that the game makes a lot of money, which it does.

I'm not getting upset, at all. I'm just trying to show you that the game makes EA a lot of money, even with all of the costs.

Facts are not a matter of opinion. It either is or it isn't. EA is making a lot of money off of Madden.

When you initially tried the $60.00 X 5 million, that is when I piped in and mentioned you are forgetting cost.

Also, KJ is correct, there is much more revenue streaming in from MUT, in game advtsg, etc.....

My whole point to you was to illustrate to you was not to forget costs, which it appears you did in your initial post.

Anyway, FIFA is more of a cash cow than Madden is.

And if Madden was doing so well money making wise, EA's stock would be much higher.

[SpeedyMikeWallace]

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When you initially tried the $60.00 X 5 million, that is when I piped in and mentioned you are forgetting cost.

I don't recall ever saying that EA takes in 100% of 59.99 x 5 million. I said, with that kind of money, there's pretty much 0 chance EA isn't making A LOT of money.

Also, KJ is correct, there is much more revenue streaming in from MUT, in game advtsg, etc.....

Which further proves that EA is making a lot of money off of the game.

My whole point to you was to illustrate to you was not to forget costs, which it appears you did in your initial post.

I never forgot costs. I just never believed that they were so large that the game wasn't turning a profit.

Anyway, FIFA is more of a cash cow than Madden is.

And if Madden was doing so well money making wise, EA's stock would be much higher.

Why would Madden's sales lead to greater stock performance by EA when it isn't even the biggest title it's own division: EA Sports? You're not taking into account how many games EA makes or that not all of the games they make are successful. The successful games allow EA to not go bankrupt when a game fails.

And, if I remember correctly, EA's stock took a nice jump after they signed the deal with the NFL.

[roadman]

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I don't recall ever saying that EA takes in 100% of 59.99 x 5 million. I said, with that kind of money, there's pretty much 0 chance EA isn't making A LOT of money.



Which further proves that EA is making a lot of money off of the game.



I never forgot costs. I just never believed that they were so large that the game wasn't turning a profit.



Why would Madden's sales lead to greater stock performance by EA when it isn't even the biggest title it's own division: EA Sports? You're not taking into account how many games EA makes or that not all of the games they make are successful. The successful games allow EA to not go bankrupt when a game fails.

And, if I remember correctly, EA's stock took a nice jump after they signed the deal with the NFL.

The last thing I will say on this is that we are both speculating on how much profit EA makes. What is a good profit margin for them?

We aren't privy to their financial books, so, it's just only a matter of opinion.

I will say they are probably making a profit, but how much of a profit, we don't know.

[turftickler]

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The problem with Madden NFL games people start to believe that everything they see in those games is realistic because of all the NFL stuff. They have been blinded by the fluff and stuff. All the glitter and glamour of the NFL has made them lose site of what simulation should be.

[Exonerated]

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The last thing I will say on this is that we are both speculating on how much profit EA makes. What is a good profit margin for them?

We aren't privy to their financial books, so, it's just only a matter of opinion.

I will say they are probably making a profit, but how much of a profit, we don't know.

EA is a publicly traded company. You can see all their books on Google Finance.

Search ERTS

[roadman]

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EA is a publicly traded company. You can see all their books on Google Finance.

Search ERTS

I should have meant Madden specifically. We don't have the balance sheets, income statements and accounting books of Madden.

I did see a lot of red though, for EA.

[algeron04]

Spot on analysis. I for one was overseas when the trailer and subsequent madden 06 game were released . Needless to say its 2011 and I am still not impressed.

I was overseas too when the I first saw the trailor for Madden 06 on PS3 was so excited the whole day. I bought the game and a PS3 the same day opened the box put in the disc and started to play. That was the biggest gaming shock ever. I was so disappointed that I continued to use my PS2 until 2008, but even now the game is still a dissappointment. Until NFL sports gaming competition is back Madden will never be as good as we all hoped.

[STLRams]

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If McDonald's was the ONLY fast food joint in the country, they'd be considered a success as well.....no matter how tired (and fat) we'd all get eating nothing but Big Mac's.....

Very True, food for thought.

[turftickler]

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I was overseas too when the I first saw the trailor for Madden 06 on PS3 was so excited the whole day. I bought the game and a PS3 the same day opened the box put in the disc and started to play. That was the biggest gaming shock ever. I was so disappointed that I continued to use my PS2 until 2008, but even now the game is still a dissappointment. Until NFL sports gaming competition is back Madden will never be as good as we all hoped.

My jaw dropped when I saw that trailer. Also, NBA Live 06's trailer was the same way. I was like, WHOA! I can't wait to get an XBox 360. I was the first in line at gamestop in my town.

Picked up my console, picked up my Madden 06, then I went home and picked up my jaw. That was the worst false advertisement I had ever experienced.

[mestevo]

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I don't really have any pity for anyone who watched a clearly CG trailer from May of 2005 and then bought the game 6 months later without looking at a single screenshot or anything else about the game... like maybe the back of the box... or didn't see any commercials about it... (both 360 and Madden commercials). Everyone is responsible for their own due diligence before making any purchase.